Installing Extra RAM

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David B.

I think Leonard was getting testy because I pointed out he was incorrect,
and there's always another one that has to come along and defend the person
whose getting persecuted because they don't have a clue what they're talking
about, I won't loose any sleep over it :)

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Daave

LOL

Now it looks like I'm adding to the confusion.

I'll correct my previous post... I left something out...

(see below)

I've been following this thread from the beginning and not only does
it all make sense to me, I can see why there's some confusion.

Hudster, David B., Leonard, and you are talking about different, yet
related things.

Hudster asked his initial question, wanting to know if XP will
recognize the extra RAM he planned on installing.

You correctly responded yes:

"No manual adjustments required. If the system recognizes the new RAM
it is automatic."

David B. added:

"Except for the swapfile, it will be set for the pre upgrade amount of
RAM"

What he clearly meant was (here's my paraphrase):

"Yes, the system will automatically recognize the new RAM. However, if
Virtual Memory hadn't been changed to System Managed (which is often
recommended by many techs, especially for people who like to "set it
and forget it") and instead has its original default settings, then
it's possible that those settings may eventually lead to error
messages. True, a lot of the time, it won't matter, but it can and
has happened. Granted, it's more likely if someone is upgrading from
128 MB, which is quite rare these days. Still, it can and has
happened."

Gerry, you really latched on to David's statement. His "it" is not
referencing your "it." Your "it" is the system. His "it" is the
pagefile. It seems like you perceived he was disagreeing with you. He
wasn't. He was adding information.

Then later, Leonard challenged him. Leonard said that:

"The correct setting for the page file is almost always 'system
managed size' and that's where you should have it."

My mistake.

For some reason, when I pasted the above, I had the following on the
brain (also said by Leonard):

"XP by default is set to system managed size."

That would have been the challenge. But Leonard hadn't said it yet! (But
by the time he did, *that* is what the debate was really about. At least
that's what I noticed more than anything else. Leonard was wrong. And
David B. wanted to point out the mistake.)

So going back, what Leonard said was more like a non sequitur. After
David B. made his remark that sometimes Virtual Memory settings need to
be changed after the installation of memory (in instances when Let
System Manage had *not* been chosen), Leonard said:

"The correct setting for the page file is almost always 'system managed
size' and that's where you should have it."

This was a non sequitur and also happened to be something David B.
agreed with! Perhaps David B. used a tone. But perhaps he didn't. And in
Usenet, it's easy to assume there was a tone when there wasn't. So maybe
you (and maybe Leonard) thought David B. was being snarky when he
replied:

"Umm, that's what I said, XP by default is set to a fixed size."

And then the thread devolved into its current mess!

Distilled:

Both Leonard and David B. think it's good to let the system manage VM.

Leonard mistakenly said that by default XP lets the system manage VM.

That was the point that David B. disagreed with (correctly).

Leonard was under the impression that they both believed the same thing:
that it is *good* to let the system manage VM. While that may be true,
he didn't realize he had made a wrong statement and just saw the
disagreement as one over semantics. But it really wasn't. But it's easy
to get lost and think that it's a pointless debate anyway.

Okay, I'm done now. Good night!
 
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Daave

Gerry said:
Daave

Blessed are the peacemakers!

Amen, bro! I feel like someone should buy me a beer. :)
I am not picking on David B. The subject of virtual memory management
is a controversial one. There are two main schools of thought, one
being to let Windows manage and the other the contrary. Within these
two standpoints there is further diversity of opinion. Neither is
right as each have their advantages and disadvantages. The user has
choices and David B is just refusing to acknowledge that this is so.

That's not what I thought he said. I believe he said that while some
people (folks like you and me, for instance) like to tinker around with
settings to manually find that sweet spot of pagefile size, most folks
would rather just let the system manage VM. And it just so happens that
that's usually a good decision. But I'm burnt out looking at all these
posts, and even I would be happy to agree to disagree!
He also conveniently ignores questions that don't suit his case.

In fairness to him, I didn't see that at all. He was ticked that Leonard
kept on insisting that XP's default is to let the system manage VM. To
him, that was the entire debate. And frankly, that's how I saw it, too.
That's why I was kind of sympathetic. You brought up your thoughts on
following the information in the Alex Nichol article, but that was the
last thing on his mind; he was just frustrated that Leonard kept on
repeating the wrong information!
The only point where Leonard was perhaps incorrect was his original
statement statement that "Let Windows" manage is the default. When
Leonard made this slip David B went after Leonard like a bulldog. I
would not have overmuch sympathy for David B as he is well able to
take care of himself, even if he now feels persecuted as Leonard did
earlier. It's all a storm in a tea cup which will blow over.

Perceptions are fascinating, huh? And you know, that's a big reason
nations fight wars.

You know, between this thread and my exchanges with Unknown over
Ccleaner and AdAware, I think I need to take a break!
 
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David B.

Good job deciphering Daave, all I originally wanted to do was get people to
realize WHAT the default page file setting was, and it snowballed. I think
it's time to put this one to rest.

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Lil' Dave

Generally speaking (doesn't fit all), if you have adequate hard drive space,
leave the swapfile at default location and assure its system managed size
after increasing RAM.

I can imagine many exceptions.
 
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David B.

Remove your sound card and drop in boiling water for 45 minutes, reinstall
while still wet, that should take care of it :)
 

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