Installed new HD

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Terry Pinnell

Following the help I had in my earlier thread 'Can I add another HD?',
I'm pleased to report that I've successfully installed my new 200GB
Maxtor. Thanks again for all the help.

(BTW, it *did* come with the cable required - and a second one. So I
spent £5 in a local computer shop unnecessarily!)

One thing that puzzles me is that XP's Device Manager describes it as
'Maxtor 6 L200P0 SCSi Disk Device'. Where does SCSI come into it?
There was no mention of that in the HS spec, either on the Misco site
at
http://www.misco.co.uk/productinfor...or 200GB 7200RPM Internal Hard Disk Drive.htm
or the invoice. Is it something to do with the PCI card I had to
install first, which is a 'HighPoint Rocket 133 2CH'? I used the CS
jumper option, if that's relevant. Device manager also now includes
another category, 'SCSI & RAID Controller', under which I have the
entry '-HPT302 UDMA/ATA133 Controller'.

Although curious about that, in practice the bottom line I'm
interested in is whether it will be as fast as my other Maxtors under
their IDE controller. It's too early to tell subjectively...
 
R

Rod Speed

Terry Pinnell said:
Following the help I had in my earlier thread 'Can I add another HD?',
I'm pleased to report that I've successfully installed my new 200GB
Maxtor. Thanks again for all the help.
(BTW, it *did* come with the cable required - and a second one.
So I spent £5 in a local computer shop unnecessarily!)

Life wasnt meant to be glitch free |-(
One thing that puzzles me is that XP's Device Manager describes it as
'Maxtor 6 L200P0 SCSi Disk Device'. Where does SCSI come into it?

That is a rather poor way of describing a controller that has a bios on it.
There was no mention of that in the HS spec, either on the Misco site at
http://www.misco.co.uk/productinfor...or 200GB 7200RPM Internal Hard Disk Drive.htm
or the invoice. Is it something to do with the PCI card I
had to install first, which is a 'HighPoint Rocket 133 2CH'?
Nope.

I used the CS jumper option, if that's relevant. Device manager
also now includes another category, 'SCSI & RAID Controller',

That is the more accurate description, tho it should
really say BIOSed controller. Presumably they dont
because many wouldnt know what BIOSed means.
under which I have the entry '-HPT302 UDMA/ATA133 Controller'.
Although curious about that, in practice the bottom line I'm
interested in is whether it will be as fast as my other Maxtors
under their IDE controller. It's too early to tell subjectively...

Try HDTach on that.
 
A

Arno Wagner

Previously Terry Pinnell said:
Following the help I had in my earlier thread 'Can I add another HD?',
I'm pleased to report that I've successfully installed my new 200GB
Maxtor. Thanks again for all the help.
(BTW, it *did* come with the cable required - and a second one. So I
spent £5 in a local computer shop unnecessarily!)
One thing that puzzles me is that XP's Device Manager describes it as
'Maxtor 6 L200P0 SCSi Disk Device'. Where does SCSI come into it?

Windows does not have native support for many ATA controller cards
and accesses them via a SCSI emulation layer.

Arno
 
F

Folkert Rienstra

As they said it would. As what 'Retail' usually means.

Ask Roddles half your money back as he's obviously part to blame.
Life wasnt meant to be glitch free |-(


That is a rather poor way of describing a controller that has a bios on it.

Which in itself is a rather poor description of an add-on/added-in/additional
IDE controller.

Yes it does.
Obviously his other HDs don't show that way, or he wouldn't have made a point of it.
That is the more accurate description, tho it shouldreally say BIOSed controller.

Wotastupidtroll.

Like the biosless version of that controller wouldn't show up as that.
Of course it will.
Presumably they dont because many wouldnt know what BIOSed means.

Including yourself, apparently.

What has that got to do with them being named SCSI?
 
T

Terry Pinnell

Rod Speed said:
Life wasnt meant to be glitch free |-(


That is a rather poor way of describing a controller that has a bios on it.


That is the more accurate description, tho it should
really say BIOSed controller. Presumably they dont
because many wouldnt know what BIOSed means.



Try HDTach on that.

Thanks. It seems my version must be a trial/demo, as I get:
"Windows NT support only available in registered version."
 
J

J. Clarke

Arno said:
Windows does not have native support for many ATA controller cards
and accesses them via a SCSI emulation layer.

That is no longer the case with XP/2K3, however many manufacturers choose to
continue to implement their drivers using the SCSI emulation rather than
Windows ATA support.
 
T

Terry Pinnell

Rod Speed said:
You need the latest version.

Got version 3 now, thanks.

Performance of new HD seems OK. About the same as one of my other two
HDs, Maxtor 60GB, although much slower than the comparisons displayed.

As a side issue, my 'main' HD, 'MAXTOR 6L060J3 A93.0500 (60.0GB)',
fails to complete the final part (Sequential Read Test). When a little
way through that, it consistently halts with the message: "Error
during test or test cancelled by user." Yet that contains my OS on C:
and most of my programs and data on D:, and my PC seems to be running
as well as WinXP Home normally does for me. Any thoughts please?
 
R

Rod Speed

Terry Pinnell said:
Got version 3 now, thanks.

Performance of new HD seems OK. About the same as one of my other two
HDs, Maxtor 60GB, although much slower than the comparisons displayed.

As a side issue, my 'main' HD, 'MAXTOR 6L060J3 A93.0500 (60.0GB)',
fails to complete the final part (Sequential Read Test). When a little
way through that, it consistently halts with the message: "Error
during test or test cancelled by user." Yet that contains my OS on C:
and most of my programs and data on D:, and my PC seems to be running
as well as WinXP Home normally does for me. Any thoughts please?

Havent seen that, but then I havent used that version much at all.

I'd assume its a bug in HDTach if the XP event logs
dont show any problems when not running HDTach.

It would be worth running PowerMax on that drive to check that its not
a subtle problem that isnt currently visible when not running HDTach.
 

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