Installation problem

[Roberto le Cornielle]

Trying to install Vista Business but it fails just after the point
were you have inputed the Product Key and regional details and you
have the
screen which says "installing now, please waite..." nothing further
happens - just the hour glass.

Machine specs are :

Antec NSK4000B Case with 500W Power Supply
MSI K9 NEO3 MoBo
AMD A64 X2 Dual Core 4800+ AM2 CPU
1 X 2GB Kingston 800MHz Hyper RAM
MSI NX8400 GS TD256E Graphics card
WD 250GB JS Caviar SATA11 HDD
Pioneer DVR-216 SATA Optical Drive
All above are new components

Things I have tried

Swapped out all components bar MoBo & CPU
Set BIOS to "fail safe".
Run WD diagnostics on HDD and memtest86 on RAM
Checked MSI site for BIOS update, although nothing specific comes up
relating
to a hang during setup, I have flashed the BIOS with the latest
available update.
Tried installing to a raw HDD and allowing setup to create partition
Partitioning to30GB primary with BootitNG, rest as logical in extended
partition
before running setup .

Oddly enough I can succesfully install and use XP Pro on this
machine so this tends to rule out bad hardware, also the Vista DVD
will install to a machine with an MSI K9 NEO2 MoBo, so DVD appears to
be good.

Has anyone seen this behaviour in a simillar setup ?.
all help appreciated

rgds
Roberto

 

[thecreator]

Hi Roberto,

You stated that you could install this on another similar computer. I
wonder if Microsoft distributed Vista on a DVD-RW or DVD+RW Disk, instead of
a DVD-R or DVD+R Disk and after you install the operating system on just one
computer, you can repair the installation from the DVD Disk, but you can't
reuse that DVD Disk to install on another computer.

One Vista DVD per computer. I thought that Microsoft was going to do,
something like that.

Since you are having problems installing Vista, why not call Microsoft?
The call should be free for problems installing Vista.

 

[Paul Montgomery]

You stated that you could install this on another similar computer. I
wonder if Microsoft distributed Vista on a DVD-RW or DVD+RW Disk, instead of
a DVD-R or DVD+R Disk and after you install the operating system on just one
computer, you can repair the installation from the DVD Disk, but you can't
reuse that DVD Disk to install on another computer.

You had a bad dream. That just isn't true.

One Vista DVD per computer. I thought that Microsoft was going to do,
something like that.

It did. In the EULA. It is not a physical thing... except that the
second installation won't be able to be activated and will become
disabled.

 

[R. C. White]

Hi, Roberto.

screen which says "installing now, please waite..." nothing further
happens - just the hour glass.

You didn't tell us how long you waited. Some of the waits are MUCH longer
than we expect. So long as the hour glass (or the spinning doughnut, as
some call it) is working, Vista Setup is probably busy behind the scenes.
Some of my waits have been a half-hour or more and I've heard of even longer
waits.

Too bad Setup does not provide better feedback to keep us from worrying - or
from powering down and having to start over. :>(

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

Trying to install Vista Business but it fails just after the point
were you have inputed the Product Key and regional details and
you
have the
screen which says "installing now, please waite..." nothing further
happens - just the hour glass.

Machine specs are :

Antec NSK4000B Case with 500W Power Supply
MSI K9 NEO3 MoBo
AMD A64 X2 Dual Core 4800+ AM2 CPU
1 X 2GB Kingston 800MHz Hyper RAM
MSI NX8400 GS TD256E Graphics card
WD 250GB JS Caviar SATA11 HDD
Pioneer DVR-216 SATA Optical Drive
All above are new components

Things I have tried

Swapped out all components bar MoBo & CPU
Set BIOS to "fail safe".
Run WD diagnostics on HDD and memtest86 on RAM
Checked MSI site for BIOS update, although nothing specific comes up
relating
to a hang during setup, I have flashed the BIOS with the latest
available update.
Tried installing to a raw HDD and allowing setup to create
partition
Partitioning to30GB primary with BootitNG, rest as logical in
extended
partition
before running setup .

Oddly enough I can succesfully install and use XP Pro on this
machine so this tends to rule out bad hardware, also the Vista
DVD
will install to a machine with an MSI K9 NEO2 MoBo, so DVD appears
to
be good.

Has anyone seen this behaviour in a simillar setup ?.
all help appreciated

rgds
Roberto

 

[Roberto le Cornielle]

Hi, Roberto.


You didn't tell us how long you waited. Some of the waits are MUCH longer
than we expect. So long as the hour glass (or the spinning doughnut, as
some call it) is working, Vista Setup is probably busy behind the scenes.
Some of my waits have been a half-hour or more and I've heard of even
longer waits.

Too bad Setup does not provide better feedback to keep us from worrying -
or from powering down and having to start over. :>(

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

Thanks for your input, to be honest I hadn't considered that
senario, just been expecting setup to "do something in a timely
fasion" the way XP or Win98 installations do.
Will give it another go and get back.

rgds
Roberto

Trying to install Vista Business but it fails just after the point
were you have inputed the Product Key and regional details and
you
have the
screen which says "installing now, please waite..." nothing further
happens - just the hour glass.

Machine specs are :

Antec NSK4000B Case with 500W Power Supply
MSI K9 NEO3 MoBo
AMD A64 X2 Dual Core 4800+ AM2 CPU
1 X 2GB Kingston 800MHz Hyper RAM
MSI NX8400 GS TD256E Graphics card
WD 250GB JS Caviar SATA11 HDD
Pioneer DVR-216 SATA Optical Drive
All above are new components

Things I have tried

Swapped out all components bar MoBo & CPU
Set BIOS to "fail safe".
Run WD diagnostics on HDD and memtest86 on RAM
Checked MSI site for BIOS update, although nothing specific comes
up
relating
to a hang during setup, I have flashed the BIOS with the latest
available update.
Tried installing to a raw HDD and allowing setup to create
partition
Partitioning to30GB primary with BootitNG, rest as logical in
extended
partition
before running setup .

Oddly enough I can succesfully install and use XP Pro on this
machine so this tends to rule out bad hardware, also the Vista
DVD
will install to a machine with an MSI K9 NEO2 MoBo, so DVD appears
to
be good.

Has anyone seen this behaviour in a simillar setup ?.
all help appreciated

rgds
Roberto

 

[DDW]

Hi,

I just read in another post that someone reinstalled using a friend's
disk ( with his own key of course ) so it seems it isn't one Vista dvd
per computer.

It's never been one DVD. It's always been one installation - and an
installation includes the KEY, which is not re-usable.

It doesn't matter about the DVD. All Vista DVDs are the same anyway,
except for those supplied by the major branded manufacturers/vendors
that are more accurately called "recovery discs".

 

[Paul Montgomery]

Oddly  enough  I can  succesfully  install  and  use  XP Pro on this
machine so  this  tends  to  rule  out  bad  hardware,

Nope. Vista has different hardware requirements.

also  the  Vista DVD will  install  to  a  machine with  an
MSI K9 NEO2 MoBo, so  DVD appears to be  good.

The DVD definitely appears to be good. It's something with your
hardware.

 

[Roberto le Cornielle]

Hi, Roberto.


You didn't tell us how long you waited. Some of the waits are MUCH longer
than we expect. So long as the hour glass (or the spinning doughnut, as
some call it) is working, Vista Setup is probably busy behind the scenes.
Some of my waits have been a half-hour or more and I've heard of even
longer waits.

Too bad Setup does not provide better feedback to keep us from worrying -
or from powering down and having to start over. :>(

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
(e-mail address removed)
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)

Did another install Friday night but it's still a failure IMHO, here
are the details:
Got to the same point in the install process as before - copying
Windows files got the green tick, then it started the expanding
files part, there it remained on zero percent for 40mins and finaly
completed sometime during the night, [I went to bed 4hrs after
initiating the install process so it would have had to have taken
5/6hrs to complete].
Next day I rebooted the machine it went to the desktop in an
acceptable time, I then installed the chipset drivers from the MSI
Vista drivers CD [NForce 560], but after rebooting and running the
drivers CD to continue with the remaining drivers [LAN and sound] it
locked up solid and the only way out was to press the reset
button.There it remains, it will boot up but any attempt to use the
optical drive locks it up solid.

Please note I have swapped out the optical drive with another known
good one, as well as all other components [and SATA cables] bar the
MoBo and CPU, as per my orginal post. Also interestingly, XP Pro will
install successfully on this machine. So all the evidence points to
something other than a simple case of bad hardware. Neither can
you say these components don't meet the required standards for
running Vista.
All meaningfull suggestions greatly appreciated.

Roberto

Trying to install Vista Business but it fails just after the point
were you have inputed the Product Key and regional details and
you
have the
screen which says "installing now, please waite..." nothing further
happens - just the hour glass.

Machine specs are :

Antec NSK4000B Case with 500W Power Supply
MSI K9 NEO3 MoBo
AMD A64 X2 Dual Core 4800+ AM2 CPU
1 X 2GB Kingston 800MHz Hyper RAM
MSI NX8400 GS TD256E Graphics card
WD 250GB JS Caviar SATA11 HDD
Pioneer DVR-216 SATA Optical Drive
All above are new components

Things I have tried

Swapped out all components bar MoBo & CPU
Set BIOS to "fail safe".
Run WD diagnostics on HDD and memtest86 on RAM
Checked MSI site for BIOS update, although nothing specific comes
up
relating
to a hang during setup, I have flashed the BIOS with the latest
available update.
Tried installing to a raw HDD and allowing setup to create
partition
Partitioning to30GB primary with BootitNG, rest as logical in
extended
partition
before running setup .

Oddly enough I can succesfully install and use XP Pro on this
machine so this tends to rule out bad hardware, also the Vista
DVD
will install to a machine with an MSI K9 NEO2 MoBo, so DVD appears
to
be good.

Has anyone seen this behaviour in a simillar setup ?.
all help appreciated

rgds
Roberto