Install 2000 Detecting hardware problem

[Jim A]

Hi,

I have a new 120G HD and discovered Win98SE can't handle
it (FDISK has a problem). So I thought I would give
Win2000 a go.

It will boot from the CD and the clears the screen and goes

"Setup is detecting your hardware..."

and locks up.

I went back to the original drive and now realise its the
machine that won't let it install.

I've tried...

3 diferant HD's,
3 video card, 2 AGP and an old PCI rage card
Removed all other cards except video card

Doing a pre-install from win98 to HD and then removing
everything I could including
CD/DVD rom, mouse, swopping keyboard, memory, etc.

The motherboard is a Shuttle AV61...

I've tried disabling about everything including serial
ports, power management, UDMA modes and second IDE channel.

I've updated the bios to the lastest version and tried
disabling other things.

Still I get to the same stage.

I've tried the debug version of NTDETECT.CHK -> COM and
that stops before any debug messages.

Windows 98 works fine but I need to use NTFS for a piece
of software I want to use.

XP Pro has the same problem.

Still to try is running the upgrade tools from Win98 but
not sure if this will help.

The motherboard has VIA chipset which should be OK.

Anyone any ideas.


Jim

 

[DL]

Not sure if you've tried this;
Remove hd's except new set to master using cable to same IDE as origonal
working hd
Cable right way round?
David

 

[Dave Patrick]

You didn't mention the drive controller (possibly SCSI, or ultra DMA, or
ATA100, or raid, or serial ATA), but you may need to boot the Windows 2000
setup disks or CD-Rom and *F6* very early and very important (at setup is
inspecting your system) in the setup to prevent drive controller detection,
and select S to specify additional drivers. Then later you'll be prompted to
insert the manufacturer supplied Windows 2000 driver for your drive's
controller in drive "A"

If you wait and then S to specify additional drivers, then it may be too
late as Windows 2000 Setup at this point may have already assigned the
resources your drive's controller is wanting to use.

--
Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft MVP [Windows NT/2000 Operating Systems]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect.

:
| Hi,
|
| I have a new 120G HD and discovered Win98SE can't handle
| it (FDISK has a problem). So I thought I would give
| Win2000 a go.
|
| It will boot from the CD and the clears the screen and goes
|
| "Setup is detecting your hardware..."
|
| and locks up.
|
| I went back to the original drive and now realise its the
| machine that won't let it install.
|
| I've tried...
|
| 3 diferant HD's,
| 3 video card, 2 AGP and an old PCI rage card
| Removed all other cards except video card
|
| Doing a pre-install from win98 to HD and then removing
| everything I could including
| CD/DVD rom, mouse, swopping keyboard, memory, etc.
|
| The motherboard is a Shuttle AV61...
|
| I've tried disabling about everything including serial
| ports, power management, UDMA modes and second IDE channel.
|
| I've updated the bios to the lastest version and tried
| disabling other things.
|
| Still I get to the same stage.
|
| I've tried the debug version of NTDETECT.CHK -> COM and
| that stops before any debug messages.
|
| Windows 98 works fine but I need to use NTFS for a piece
| of software I want to use.
|
| XP Pro has the same problem.
|
| Still to try is running the upgrade tools from Win98 but
| not sure if this will help.
|
| The motherboard has VIA chipset which should be OK.
|
| Anyone any ideas.
|
|
| Jim
|

 

[Guest]

The drive controller is the on board VIA chipset, there is
nothing else in the system.

I wish it would get to asking to press F6 or anything else.

If you mean to press F6 as soon as it boot then I've got
about 10 nano seconds as the first message is the hardware
detection and everything locks up, keyboard included.

I can get the files installed on a drive by running setup
from Win98. But even picking various startup modes doesn't
help.

Just remembered is there an option to press F6 at this
point??? - I've tried F8 which gives the Last know config
etc screen.

I've now tried running winnt32 /checkupgradeonly from
win98 and it says theres no problems or conflicts.

The VIA chipset is on the HCL!!!

I think it could be a BIOS setting but I've tried
everything to disabled, mayby something wants to be
enabled but what???

-----Original Message-----
You didn't mention the drive controller (possibly SCSI, or ultra DMA, or
ATA100, or raid, or serial ATA), but you may need to boot the Windows 2000
setup disks or CD-Rom and *F6* very early and very important (at setup is
inspecting your system) in the setup to prevent drive controller detection,
and select S to specify additional drivers. Then later you'll be prompted to
insert the manufacturer supplied Windows 2000 driver for your drive's
controller in drive "A"

If you wait and then S to specify additional drivers, then it may be too
late as Windows 2000 Setup at this point may have already assigned the
resources your drive's controller is wanting to use.

--
Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft MVP [Windows NT/2000 Operating Systems]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect.

:
| Hi,
|
| I have a new 120G HD and discovered Win98SE can't handle
| it (FDISK has a problem). So I thought I would give
| Win2000 a go.
|
| It will boot from the CD and the clears the screen and goes
|
| "Setup is detecting your hardware..."
|
| and locks up.
|
| I went back to the original drive and now realise its the
| machine that won't let it install.
|
| I've tried...
|
| 3 diferant HD's,
| 3 video card, 2 AGP and an old PCI rage card
| Removed all other cards except video card
|
| Doing a pre-install from win98 to HD and then removing
| everything I could including
| CD/DVD rom, mouse, swopping keyboard, memory, etc.
|
| The motherboard is a Shuttle AV61...
|
| I've tried disabling about everything including serial
| ports, power management, UDMA modes and second IDE channel.
|
| I've updated the bios to the lastest version and tried
| disabling other things.
|
| Still I get to the same stage.
|
| I've tried the debug version of NTDETECT.CHK -> COM and
| that stops before any debug messages.
|
| Windows 98 works fine but I need to use NTFS for a piece
| of software I want to use.
|
| XP Pro has the same problem.
|
| Still to try is running the upgrade tools from Win98 but
| not sure if this will help.
|
| The motherboard has VIA chipset which should be OK.
|
| Anyone any ideas.
|
|
| Jim
|


.

 

[Dave Patrick]

You still didn't mention the drive controller but you'll likely need to *F6*
very early and very important at "setup is inspecting your system."

--
Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft MVP [Windows NT/2000 Operating Systems]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect.

| The drive controller is the on board VIA chipset, there is
| nothing else in the system.
|
| I wish it would get to asking to press F6 or anything else.
|
| If you mean to press F6 as soon as it boot then I've got
| about 10 nano seconds as the first message is the hardware
| detection and everything locks up, keyboard included.
|
| I can get the files installed on a drive by running setup
| from Win98. But even picking various startup modes doesn't
| help.
|
| Just remembered is there an option to press F6 at this
| point??? - I've tried F8 which gives the Last know config
| etc screen.
|
| I've now tried running winnt32 /checkupgradeonly from
| win98 and it says theres no problems or conflicts.
|
| The VIA chipset is on the HCL!!!
|
| I think it could be a BIOS setting but I've tried
| everything to disabled, mayby something wants to be
| enabled but what???