Increase performance?

[Justin]

You have all your applications in one folder, no sub folders?

Are you sitting down? There's something called a alphabet. Been around
long time, caught on too.

adam has once again failed to read and understand what he read. What part
of the application name being UNKNOWN did you not understand?

Even Windows can sort files alphabetically.

Read above. If you can.

Vista can search rather well, even if some dope puts everything in one
folder.

Wow, thanks for repeating what I said.

I bet you throw all your clothes in one pile on the floor too.

Why would you bet that? Oh I get it! You once again failed to READ the
post as you specifically claimed in the past that you purposely DO NOT read
everything. So you missed the part about the applications being the
INSTALLERS for them. Typical!

Only Justin would dare say organization is a negative. <giggle>

There are plenty of studies that show OVER organization being a problem. At
some point you start to become non-productive as you spend more time
organizing then you do working.

Look it up adam, maybe you'll learn something.

 

[Justin]

Sure doesn't take much to get children screaming "WOW", does it?

Typical.

 

[DanS]

You can deny it all you want. You can say you'll never use it or it's
no use to you. That's fine. But you can't deny the feature or it's
power.

I was never denying it's searching power, or that I'll never use it.

It's a feature to be evaluated to see if it is a plus or minus to me, and
if I can live with or without.

Searching is something I do infrequently. My PC is super-organized and I
usually know where everything resides on it's HD's. I'd also estimate
that 1/2 of the time I'm searching a network drive.I can't remember the
last time I searched for something, maybe a month ago.

So, much of what I read here, is forming my personal pros/cons list. (The
[few] intelligent discussions anyway.)

The biggest con right now is hardware. I'm running this 1Ghz Athlon w/512
Megs of RAM, and XP seems to run very well, virtually O/S crash free,
weeks and even months between reboots on 24/7. At work I have a P4 3Ghz
machine which by all rights, should beat this PC here by a mile, but it
really doesn't seem much faster, if at all, with the software I use.

Now if I had a nifty new dual-core PC with 2 Gigs of RAM and a super-
killer video card, a Vista upgrade would seem more enticing. I'm a newer-
is-better-unless-newer-sucks kind of guy, it would at least have a chance
then.

So for me, a Vista upgrade means a lot more $$'s with all the necessary
hardware upgrades as well. Unfortunately, my family needs to eat for the
next 2 months. I may have already blown my hardware budget for the year
on a new 20" LCD monitor !!!!!

Troll shield - I did not claim MS to be the FIRST.

(Speaking of that, did you see that video on YouTube with the guy
comparing side-by-side OSx and Vista and sarcastically insisting they are
not at all alike ? Very humorous.)

That's what people like to claim but it's false. If those work for
you then great. I've used many and none of them compare.

People like to claim that 3rd party works as good as the Vista search
tool ? Don't know. I also didn't say TurboSearcher worked as good. To the
contrary, I don't even remember why I tried it, and haven't toched that
in months either. I've shy'd away from Google Desktop Search and the
like.

Back to the Sabres game............

 

[Justin]

It's a feature to be evaluated to see if it is a plus or minus to me, and
if I can live with or without.
Absolutely!


Searching is something I do infrequently.

Fair enough.

My PC is super-organized and I
usually know where everything resides on it's HD's.

That would be impossible for me. I deal with hundreds of thousands of
files.

Now if I had a nifty new dual-core PC with 2 Gigs of RAM and a super-
killer video card, a Vista upgrade would seem more enticing.

I always disagree with this. I don't have that and Vista runs just fine. I
have Vista running great on hyper threaded CPUs. Brand spanking new is not
needed.

So for me, a Vista upgrade means a lot more $$'s with all the necessary
hardware upgrades as well. Unfortunately, my family needs to eat for the
next 2 months. I may have already blown my hardware budget for the year
on a new 20" LCD monitor !!!!!
Understandable.


(Speaking of that, did you see that video on YouTube with the guy
comparing side-by-side OSx and Vista and sarcastically insisting they are
not at all alike ? Very humorous.)

Yeah, I saw that. MS shoots themselves in the foot when they do crap like
making the calendar the SAME COLOR as OSX. Granted a calendar is a
calendar, they ALL look the same. But to go as far as to use the same color
scheme. Stupid MS.

People like to claim that 3rd party works as good as the Vista search
tool ? Don't know. I also didn't say TurboSearcher worked as good. To the
contrary, I don't even remember why I tried it, and haven't toched that
in months either. I've shy'd away from Google Desktop Search and the
like.

Yeah, many other people like to claim WDS is the same as Vista. As for
yourself, you don't search much. So it's obvious that wouldn't be a WOW
factor for you.


On a side note, I just got bit by Vista for the first time. I can not get a
any of my BT USB dongles to work for squat. I'm sure the new BT stack has
it's advantages but no hardware I have in my hands can see that yet. Even
the Broadcom workarounds aren't working.

 

[Guest]

Now if I had a nifty new dual-core PC with 2 Gigs of RAM and a super-

killer video card

I did this, Installed XP to begin with. Previous was 2 GHZ, 768MB, mid level
NVidia, and 7200 rpm drive. Current is 2.4 GHZ dual core, 2 GB, top NVidia,
and 10,000 RPM and I couldn't really tell any difference.

You can deny it all you want. You can say you'll never use it or it's
no use to you. That's fine. But you can't deny the feature or it's
power.

I was never denying it's searching power, or that I'll never use it.

It's a feature to be evaluated to see if it is a plus or minus to me, and
if I can live with or without.

Searching is something I do infrequently. My PC is super-organized and I
usually know where everything resides on it's HD's. I'd also estimate
that 1/2 of the time I'm searching a network drive.I can't remember the
last time I searched for something, maybe a month ago.

So, much of what I read here, is forming my personal pros/cons list. (The
[few] intelligent discussions anyway.)

The biggest con right now is hardware. I'm running this 1Ghz Athlon w/512
Megs of RAM, and XP seems to run very well, virtually O/S crash free,
weeks and even months between reboots on 24/7. At work I have a P4 3Ghz
machine which by all rights, should beat this PC here by a mile, but it
really doesn't seem much faster, if at all, with the software I use.

Now if I had a nifty new dual-core PC with 2 Gigs of RAM and a super-
killer video card, a Vista upgrade would seem more enticing. I'm a newer-
is-better-unless-newer-sucks kind of guy, it would at least have a chance
then.

So for me, a Vista upgrade means a lot more $$'s with all the necessary
hardware upgrades as well. Unfortunately, my family needs to eat for the
next 2 months. I may have already blown my hardware budget for the year
on a new 20" LCD monitor !!!!!

Troll shield - I did not claim MS to be the FIRST.

(Speaking of that, did you see that video on YouTube with the guy
comparing side-by-side OSx and Vista and sarcastically insisting they are
not at all alike ? Very humorous.)

That's what people like to claim but it's false. If those work for
you then great. I've used many and none of them compare.

People like to claim that 3rd party works as good as the Vista search
tool ? Don't know. I also didn't say TurboSearcher worked as good. To the
contrary, I don't even remember why I tried it, and haven't toched that
in months either. I've shy'd away from Google Desktop Search and the
like.

Back to the Sabres game............

 

[Guest]

The problem with search is one doesn't know what it is doing. It won't
search about 10 types of folders (haven't got around to giving them
meaningful names yet). One cannot have confidence that what is to be found
has been.. I use my own program for searching content, Dir c:\*.* /a /s to
find filenames, or avoid it as a pointless waste of time.

 

[DanS]

I always disagree with this. I don't have that and Vista runs just
fine. I have Vista running great on hyper threaded CPUs. Brand
spanking new is not needed.

And from what I've read Vista can run up to 30% than XP on the same
hardware, if it's a dual-core processor, but slower on a single core CPU.
And definately slower on this PC as it is.

I've also seen no real test's, just mentions of it either.

 

[Adam Albright]

adam has once again failed to read and understand what he read. What part
of the application name being UNKNOWN did you not understand?

You now are telling us you're looking for a application you installed
you don't know the name of. Well darn, no wonder you're always so
messed up. You can't find something you installed on your computer
even when you admit all your applications are copied to ONE folder.
Gosh, if I was you, I would admit to being so dumb.

Read above. If you can.

So much zooms over your head.

There are plenty of studies that show OVER organization being a problem.

Caught moving the goal posts again. Every time I catch you saying
something dumb you pretend you didn't really mean what you said.

At some point you start to become non-productive as you spend more time
organizing then you do working.

Look it up adam, maybe you'll learn something.

I need to remind you again, you're a idiot.

 

[Justin]

You now are telling us you're looking for a application you installed
you don't know the name of. Well darn, no wonder you're always so
messed up. You can't find something you installed on your computer
even when you admit all your applications are copied to ONE folder.
Gosh, if I was you, I would admit to being so dumb.

Oh stupid, stupid adam. You still don't get it. Oh well.

So much zooms over your head.

That's funny. Seeing as how this whole thread is high above yours!

Caught moving the goal posts again. Every time I catch you saying
something dumb you pretend you didn't really mean what you said.

Nope, that's exactly what I said and exactly what I meant. You always use
the goal post term when someone slams you down so hard you have no way of
returning to a decent conversation.

I need to remind you again, you're a idiot.

Did you learn it yet?

 

[Justin]

By default it searches everything but system folders. You can add those
yourself if you want.

 

[Justin]

And from what I've read Vista can run up to 30% than XP on the same
hardware, if it's a dual-core processor, but slower on a single core CPU.
And definately slower on this PC as it is.

I've also seen no real test's, just mentions of it either.

I have Vista running faster on Hyper Threaded CPUs with 1GB of memory and
running the same with 512MB. On my AMD 4400+ it runs with blazing speed!

 

[Guest]

What is the definirion of a system folder.

What about the below entry in the registry. 8, I presume foldertype guid
that seem to be ignored by search. I haven't decoded the numbers yet.

Does it support the Filter Unknown file registry entry which forces it to
use the text filter rather than the null filter on most files.

Without a 1/2 hour of research one can't even be sure what it's even going
to look in files you want. What defines a kind exactly, Perceived Types
(which does make sense) or the Kind list in the Registry. EG, name the file
types the document kind will search for.

The documentation is shoddy. This is more of MS favourite pastime, don't let
anyone have confidence in what windows does. If something can be simple or
complex for no reason then MS will always choose complex, even at the cost
of a computer making a mistake (re uninstall infomation).

And the UI is atrocious. Searching from the first keystroke ignores human
behaviour which is to stop while the thing works. Same way as I wait 5
minutes for superfetch to finish, because it is busy (I just wish it would
do it quicker instead of waiting for me) I will let it finish. With Search I
keep trying to stop it so I can review my early results. It then in a fit of
hatred it deletes my search term for ever, and deletes all the results too.
It won't remember if Indexing is on to Search bloody everywhere. One
solution us to issue multiple searches on Drives by r/c them and choosing
Search. Problem, it always forgets the setting to search system files.
Meaning a click on advanced. Just more pointless clicking. Same as in
Winmail. I turn off Searchbar and Views bar everytime I start Winmail.
Pointless clicking.



[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\explorer\Search\Preferences\ExcludeKnownFolders]

"{F38BF404-1D43-42F2-9305-67DE0B28FC23}"=""
"{7C5A40EF-A0FB-4BFC-874A-C0F2E0B9FA8E}"=""
"{DE974D24-D9C6-4D3E-BF91-F4455120B917}"=""
"{6D809377-6AF0-444b-8957-A3773F02200E}"=""
"{6365D5A7-0F0D-45e5-87F6-0DA56B6A4F7D}"=""
"{905E63B6-C1BF-494E-B29C-65B732D3D21A}"=""
"{F7F1ED05-9F6D-47A2-AAAE-29D317C6F066}"=""
"{62AB5D82-FDC1-4DC3-A9DD-070D1D495D97}"=""

 

[Justin]

Program Files and Windows.

What is the definirion of a system folder.

What about the below entry in the registry. 8, I presume foldertype guid
that seem to be ignored by search. I haven't decoded the numbers yet.

Does it support the Filter Unknown file registry entry which forces it to
use the text filter rather than the null filter on most files.

Without a 1/2 hour of research one can't even be sure what it's even going
to look in files you want. What defines a kind exactly, Perceived Types
(which does make sense) or the Kind list in the Registry. EG, name the
file types the document kind will search for.

The documentation is shoddy. This is more of MS favourite pastime, don't
let anyone have confidence in what windows does. If something can be
simple or complex for no reason then MS will always choose complex, even
at the cost of a computer making a mistake (re uninstall infomation).

And the UI is atrocious. Searching from the first keystroke ignores human
behaviour which is to stop while the thing works. Same way as I wait 5
minutes for superfetch to finish, because it is busy (I just wish it would
do it quicker instead of waiting for me) I will let it finish. With Search
I keep trying to stop it so I can review my early results. It then in a
fit of hatred it deletes my search term for ever, and deletes all the
results too. It won't remember if Indexing is on to Search bloody
everywhere. One solution us to issue multiple searches on Drives by r/c
them and choosing Search. Problem, it always forgets the setting to search
system files. Meaning a click on advanced. Just more pointless clicking.
Same as in Winmail. I turn off Searchbar and Views bar everytime I start
Winmail. Pointless clicking.



[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\explorer\Search\Preferences\ExcludeKnownFolders]

"{F38BF404-1D43-42F2-9305-67DE0B28FC23}"=""
"{7C5A40EF-A0FB-4BFC-874A-C0F2E0B9FA8E}"=""
"{DE974D24-D9C6-4D3E-BF91-F4455120B917}"=""
"{6D809377-6AF0-444b-8957-A3773F02200E}"=""
"{6365D5A7-0F0D-45e5-87F6-0DA56B6A4F7D}"=""
"{905E63B6-C1BF-494E-B29C-65B732D3D21A}"=""
"{F7F1ED05-9F6D-47A2-AAAE-29D317C6F066}"=""
"{62AB5D82-FDC1-4DC3-A9DD-070D1D495D97}"=""

By default it searches everything but system folders. You can add those
yourself if you want.

 

[Guest]

Other Users, what about those 8 GUIDs.

Program Files and Windows.

What is the definirion of a system folder.

What about the below entry in the registry. 8, I presume foldertype guid
that seem to be ignored by search. I haven't decoded the numbers yet.

Does it support the Filter Unknown file registry entry which forces it to
use the text filter rather than the null filter on most files.

Without a 1/2 hour of research one can't even be sure what it's even
going to look in files you want. What defines a kind exactly, Perceived
Types (which does make sense) or the Kind list in the Registry. EG, name
the file types the document kind will search for.

The documentation is shoddy. This is more of MS favourite pastime, don't
let anyone have confidence in what windows does. If something can be
simple or complex for no reason then MS will always choose complex, even
at the cost of a computer making a mistake (re uninstall infomation).

And the UI is atrocious. Searching from the first keystroke ignores human
behaviour which is to stop while the thing works. Same way as I wait 5
minutes for superfetch to finish, because it is busy (I just wish it
would do it quicker instead of waiting for me) I will let it finish. With
Search I keep trying to stop it so I can review my early results. It then
in a fit of hatred it deletes my search term for ever, and deletes all
the results too. It won't remember if Indexing is on to Search bloody
everywhere. One solution us to issue multiple searches on Drives by r/c
them and choosing Search. Problem, it always forgets the setting to
search system files. Meaning a click on advanced. Just more pointless
clicking. Same as in Winmail. I turn off Searchbar and Views bar
everytime I start Winmail. Pointless clicking.



[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\explorer\Search\Preferences\ExcludeKnownFolders]

"{F38BF404-1D43-42F2-9305-67DE0B28FC23}"=""
"{7C5A40EF-A0FB-4BFC-874A-C0F2E0B9FA8E}"=""
"{DE974D24-D9C6-4D3E-BF91-F4455120B917}"=""
"{6D809377-6AF0-444b-8957-A3773F02200E}"=""
"{6365D5A7-0F0D-45e5-87F6-0DA56B6A4F7D}"=""
"{905E63B6-C1BF-494E-B29C-65B732D3D21A}"=""
"{F7F1ED05-9F6D-47A2-AAAE-29D317C6F066}"=""
"{62AB5D82-FDC1-4DC3-A9DD-070D1D495D97}"=""

By default it searches everything but system folders. You can add those
yourself if you want.



<.> wrote in message The problem with search is one doesn't know what it is doing. It won't
search about 10 types of folders (haven't got around to giving them
meaningful names yet). One cannot have confidence that what is to be
found has been.. I use my own program for searching content, Dir c:\*.*
/a /s to find filenames, or avoid it as a pointless waste of time.


was never denying it's searching power, or that I'll never use it.

It's a feature to be evaluated to see if it is a plus or minus to me,
and
if I can live with or without.

Absolutely!


Searching is something I do infrequently.

Fair enough.

My PC is super-organized and I
usually know where everything resides on it's HD's.

That would be impossible for me. I deal with hundreds of thousands of
files.


Now if I had a nifty new dual-core PC with 2 Gigs of RAM and a super-
killer video card, a Vista upgrade would seem more enticing.

I always disagree with this. I don't have that and Vista runs just
fine. I have Vista running great on hyper threaded CPUs. Brand
spanking new is not needed.


So for me, a Vista upgrade means a lot more $$'s with all the
necessary
hardware upgrades as well. Unfortunately, my family needs to eat for
the
next 2 months. I may have already blown my hardware budget for the
year
on a new 20" LCD monitor !!!!!

Understandable.

Troll shield - I did not claim MS to be the FIRST.


(Speaking of that, did you see that video on YouTube with the guy
comparing side-by-side OSx and Vista and sarcastically insisting they
are
not at all alike ? Very humorous.)

Yeah, I saw that. MS shoots themselves in the foot when they do crap
like making the calendar the SAME COLOR as OSX. Granted a calendar is
a calendar, they ALL look the same. But to go as far as to use the
same color scheme. Stupid MS.

People like to claim that 3rd party works as good as the Vista search
tool ? Don't know. I also didn't say TurboSearcher worked as good. To
the
contrary, I don't even remember why I tried it, and haven't toched
that
in months either. I've shy'd away from Google Desktop Search and the
like.

Yeah, many other people like to claim WDS is the same as Vista. As
for yourself, you don't search much. So it's obvious that wouldn't be
a WOW factor for you.


On a side note, I just got bit by Vista for the first time. I can not
get a any of my BT USB dongles to work for squat. I'm sure the new BT
stack has it's advantages but no hardware I have in my hands can see
that yet. Even the Broadcom workarounds aren't working.

 

[Justin]

It searches the user folders.

Other Users, what about those 8 GUIDs.

Program Files and Windows.

What is the definirion of a system folder.

What about the below entry in the registry. 8, I presume foldertype guid
that seem to be ignored by search. I haven't decoded the numbers yet.

Does it support the Filter Unknown file registry entry which forces it
to use the text filter rather than the null filter on most files.

Without a 1/2 hour of research one can't even be sure what it's even
going to look in files you want. What defines a kind exactly, Perceived
Types (which does make sense) or the Kind list in the Registry. EG, name
the file types the document kind will search for.

The documentation is shoddy. This is more of MS favourite pastime, don't
let anyone have confidence in what windows does. If something can be
simple or complex for no reason then MS will always choose complex, even
at the cost of a computer making a mistake (re uninstall infomation).

And the UI is atrocious. Searching from the first keystroke ignores
human behaviour which is to stop while the thing works. Same way as I
wait 5 minutes for superfetch to finish, because it is busy (I just wish
it would do it quicker instead of waiting for me) I will let it finish.
With Search I keep trying to stop it so I can review my early results.
It then in a fit of hatred it deletes my search term for ever, and
deletes all the results too. It won't remember if Indexing is on to
Search bloody everywhere. One solution us to issue multiple searches on
Drives by r/c them and choosing Search. Problem, it always forgets the
setting to search system files. Meaning a click on advanced. Just more
pointless clicking. Same as in Winmail. I turn off Searchbar and Views
bar everytime I start Winmail. Pointless clicking.



[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\explorer\Search\Preferences\ExcludeKnownFolders]

"{F38BF404-1D43-42F2-9305-67DE0B28FC23}"=""
"{7C5A40EF-A0FB-4BFC-874A-C0F2E0B9FA8E}"=""
"{DE974D24-D9C6-4D3E-BF91-F4455120B917}"=""
"{6D809377-6AF0-444b-8957-A3773F02200E}"=""
"{6365D5A7-0F0D-45e5-87F6-0DA56B6A4F7D}"=""
"{905E63B6-C1BF-494E-B29C-65B732D3D21A}"=""
"{F7F1ED05-9F6D-47A2-AAAE-29D317C6F066}"=""
"{62AB5D82-FDC1-4DC3-A9DD-070D1D495D97}"=""


By default it searches everything but system folders. You can add
those yourself if you want.



<.> wrote in message The problem with search is one doesn't know what it is doing. It won't
search about 10 types of folders (haven't got around to giving them
meaningful names yet). One cannot have confidence that what is to be
found has been.. I use my own program for searching content, Dir
c:\*.* /a /s to find filenames, or avoid it as a pointless waste of
time.


was never denying it's searching power, or that I'll never use it.

It's a feature to be evaluated to see if it is a plus or minus to
me, and
if I can live with or without.

Absolutely!


Searching is something I do infrequently.

Fair enough.

My PC is super-organized and I
usually know where everything resides on it's HD's.

That would be impossible for me. I deal with hundreds of thousands
of files.


Now if I had a nifty new dual-core PC with 2 Gigs of RAM and a
super-
killer video card, a Vista upgrade would seem more enticing.

I always disagree with this. I don't have that and Vista runs just
fine. I have Vista running great on hyper threaded CPUs. Brand
spanking new is not needed.


So for me, a Vista upgrade means a lot more $$'s with all the
necessary
hardware upgrades as well. Unfortunately, my family needs to eat for
the
next 2 months. I may have already blown my hardware budget for the
year
on a new 20" LCD monitor !!!!!

Understandable.

Troll shield - I did not claim MS to be the FIRST.


(Speaking of that, did you see that video on YouTube with the guy
comparing side-by-side OSx and Vista and sarcastically insisting
they are
not at all alike ? Very humorous.)

Yeah, I saw that. MS shoots themselves in the foot when they do crap
like making the calendar the SAME COLOR as OSX. Granted a calendar
is a calendar, they ALL look the same. But to go as far as to use
the same color scheme. Stupid MS.

People like to claim that 3rd party works as good as the Vista
search
tool ? Don't know. I also didn't say TurboSearcher worked as good.
To the
contrary, I don't even remember why I tried it, and haven't toched
that
in months either. I've shy'd away from Google Desktop Search and the
like.

Yeah, many other people like to claim WDS is the same as Vista. As
for yourself, you don't search much. So it's obvious that wouldn't
be a WOW factor for you.


On a side note, I just got bit by Vista for the first time. I can
not get a any of my BT USB dongles to work for squat. I'm sure the
new BT stack has it's advantages but no hardware I have in my hands
can see that yet. Even the Broadcom workarounds aren't working.

 

[Guest]

What part of the user folder? Generalities don't cut it with technical
stuff.

It searches the user folders.

Other Users, what about those 8 GUIDs.

Program Files and Windows.

<.> wrote in message What is the definirion of a system folder.

What about the below entry in the registry. 8, I presume foldertype
guid that seem to be ignored by search. I haven't decoded the numbers
yet.

Does it support the Filter Unknown file registry entry which forces it
to use the text filter rather than the null filter on most files.

Without a 1/2 hour of research one can't even be sure what it's even
going to look in files you want. What defines a kind exactly, Perceived
Types (which does make sense) or the Kind list in the Registry. EG,
name the file types the document kind will search for.

The documentation is shoddy. This is more of MS favourite pastime,
don't let anyone have confidence in what windows does. If something can
be simple or complex for no reason then MS will always choose complex,
even at the cost of a computer making a mistake (re uninstall
infomation).

And the UI is atrocious. Searching from the first keystroke ignores
human behaviour which is to stop while the thing works. Same way as I
wait 5 minutes for superfetch to finish, because it is busy (I just
wish it would do it quicker instead of waiting for me) I will let it
finish. With Search I keep trying to stop it so I can review my early
results. It then in a fit of hatred it deletes my search term for ever,
and deletes all the results too. It won't remember if Indexing is on to
Search bloody everywhere. One solution us to issue multiple searches on
Drives by r/c them and choosing Search. Problem, it always forgets the
setting to search system files. Meaning a click on advanced. Just more
pointless clicking. Same as in Winmail. I turn off Searchbar and Views
bar everytime I start Winmail. Pointless clicking.



[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\explorer\Search\Preferences\ExcludeKnownFolders]

"{F38BF404-1D43-42F2-9305-67DE0B28FC23}"=""
"{7C5A40EF-A0FB-4BFC-874A-C0F2E0B9FA8E}"=""
"{DE974D24-D9C6-4D3E-BF91-F4455120B917}"=""
"{6D809377-6AF0-444b-8957-A3773F02200E}"=""
"{6365D5A7-0F0D-45e5-87F6-0DA56B6A4F7D}"=""
"{905E63B6-C1BF-494E-B29C-65B732D3D21A}"=""
"{F7F1ED05-9F6D-47A2-AAAE-29D317C6F066}"=""
"{62AB5D82-FDC1-4DC3-A9DD-070D1D495D97}"=""


By default it searches everything but system folders. You can add
those yourself if you want.



<.> wrote in message The problem with search is one doesn't know what it is doing. It
won't search about 10 types of folders (haven't got around to giving
them meaningful names yet). One cannot have confidence that what is
to be found has been.. I use my own program for searching content,
Dir c:\*.* /a /s to find filenames, or avoid it as a pointless waste
of time.


I was never denying it's searching power, or that I'll never use it.

It's a feature to be evaluated to see if it is a plus or minus to
me, and
if I can live with or without.

Absolutely!


Searching is something I do infrequently.

Fair enough.

My PC is super-organized and I
usually know where everything resides on it's HD's.

That would be impossible for me. I deal with hundreds of thousands
of files.


Now if I had a nifty new dual-core PC with 2 Gigs of RAM and a
super-
killer video card, a Vista upgrade would seem more enticing.

I always disagree with this. I don't have that and Vista runs just
fine. I have Vista running great on hyper threaded CPUs. Brand
spanking new is not needed.


So for me, a Vista upgrade means a lot more $$'s with all the
necessary
hardware upgrades as well. Unfortunately, my family needs to eat
for the
next 2 months. I may have already blown my hardware budget for the
year
on a new 20" LCD monitor !!!!!

Understandable.

Troll shield - I did not claim MS to be the FIRST.


(Speaking of that, did you see that video on YouTube with the guy
comparing side-by-side OSx and Vista and sarcastically insisting
they are
not at all alike ? Very humorous.)

Yeah, I saw that. MS shoots themselves in the foot when they do
crap like making the calendar the SAME COLOR as OSX. Granted a
calendar is a calendar, they ALL look the same. But to go as far as
to use the same color scheme. Stupid MS.

People like to claim that 3rd party works as good as the Vista
search
tool ? Don't know. I also didn't say TurboSearcher worked as good.
To the
contrary, I don't even remember why I tried it, and haven't toched
that
in months either. I've shy'd away from Google Desktop Search and
the
like.

Yeah, many other people like to claim WDS is the same as Vista. As
for yourself, you don't search much. So it's obvious that wouldn't
be a WOW factor for you.


On a side note, I just got bit by Vista for the first time. I can
not get a any of my BT USB dongles to work for squat. I'm sure the
new BT stack has it's advantages but no hardware I have in my hands
can see that yet. Even the Broadcom workarounds aren't working.

 

[Justin]

It searches the entire user folder with the exception of temp space,
everything you have access to.

What part of the user folder? Generalities don't cut it with technical
stuff.

It searches the user folders.

Other Users, what about those 8 GUIDs.
Program Files and Windows.

<.> wrote in message What is the definirion of a system folder.

What about the below entry in the registry. 8, I presume foldertype
guid that seem to be ignored by search. I haven't decoded the numbers
yet.

Does it support the Filter Unknown file registry entry which forces it
to use the text filter rather than the null filter on most files.

Without a 1/2 hour of research one can't even be sure what it's even
going to look in files you want. What defines a kind exactly,
Perceived Types (which does make sense) or the Kind list in the
Registry. EG, name the file types the document kind will search for.

The documentation is shoddy. This is more of MS favourite pastime,
don't let anyone have confidence in what windows does. If something
can be simple or complex for no reason then MS will always choose
complex, even at the cost of a computer making a mistake (re uninstall
infomation).

And the UI is atrocious. Searching from the first keystroke ignores
human behaviour which is to stop while the thing works. Same way as I
wait 5 minutes for superfetch to finish, because it is busy (I just
wish it would do it quicker instead of waiting for me) I will let it
finish. With Search I keep trying to stop it so I can review my early
results. It then in a fit of hatred it deletes my search term for
ever, and deletes all the results too. It won't remember if Indexing
is on to Search bloody everywhere. One solution us to issue multiple
searches on Drives by r/c them and choosing Search. Problem, it always
forgets the setting to search system files. Meaning a click on
advanced. Just more pointless clicking. Same as in Winmail. I turn off
Searchbar and Views bar everytime I start Winmail. Pointless clicking.



[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\explorer\Search\Preferences\ExcludeKnownFolders]

"{F38BF404-1D43-42F2-9305-67DE0B28FC23}"=""
"{7C5A40EF-A0FB-4BFC-874A-C0F2E0B9FA8E}"=""
"{DE974D24-D9C6-4D3E-BF91-F4455120B917}"=""
"{6D809377-6AF0-444b-8957-A3773F02200E}"=""
"{6365D5A7-0F0D-45e5-87F6-0DA56B6A4F7D}"=""
"{905E63B6-C1BF-494E-B29C-65B732D3D21A}"=""
"{F7F1ED05-9F6D-47A2-AAAE-29D317C6F066}"=""
"{62AB5D82-FDC1-4DC3-A9DD-070D1D495D97}"=""


By default it searches everything but system folders. You can add
those yourself if you want.



<.> wrote in message The problem with search is one doesn't know what it is doing. It
won't search about 10 types of folders (haven't got around to giving
them meaningful names yet). One cannot have confidence that what is
to be found has been.. I use my own program for searching content,
Dir c:\*.* /a /s to find filenames, or avoid it as a pointless waste
of time.


I was never denying it's searching power, or that I'll never use
it.

It's a feature to be evaluated to see if it is a plus or minus to
me, and
if I can live with or without.

Absolutely!


Searching is something I do infrequently.

Fair enough.

My PC is super-organized and I
usually know where everything resides on it's HD's.

That would be impossible for me. I deal with hundreds of thousands
of files.


Now if I had a nifty new dual-core PC with 2 Gigs of RAM and a
super-
killer video card, a Vista upgrade would seem more enticing.

I always disagree with this. I don't have that and Vista runs just
fine. I have Vista running great on hyper threaded CPUs. Brand
spanking new is not needed.


So for me, a Vista upgrade means a lot more $$'s with all the
necessary
hardware upgrades as well. Unfortunately, my family needs to eat
for the
next 2 months. I may have already blown my hardware budget for the
year
on a new 20" LCD monitor !!!!!

Understandable.

Troll shield - I did not claim MS to be the FIRST.


(Speaking of that, did you see that video on YouTube with the guy
comparing side-by-side OSx and Vista and sarcastically insisting
they are
not at all alike ? Very humorous.)

Yeah, I saw that. MS shoots themselves in the foot when they do
crap like making the calendar the SAME COLOR as OSX. Granted a
calendar is a calendar, they ALL look the same. But to go as far
as to use the same color scheme. Stupid MS.

People like to claim that 3rd party works as good as the Vista
search
tool ? Don't know. I also didn't say TurboSearcher worked as good.
To the
contrary, I don't even remember why I tried it, and haven't toched
that
in months either. I've shy'd away from Google Desktop Search and
the
like.

Yeah, many other people like to claim WDS is the same as Vista. As
for yourself, you don't search much. So it's obvious that wouldn't
be a WOW factor for you.


On a side note, I just got bit by Vista for the first time. I can
not get a any of my BT USB dongles to work for squat. I'm sure the
new BT stack has it's advantages but no hardware I have in my hands
can see that yet. Even the Broadcom workarounds aren't working.

 

[DevilsPGD]

In message <[email protected]> DanS

From what I read there, the one thing that would give you any speed boost
that would be significant (read user perceivable) is turning off the eye-
candy.

Driver and system dependant, the eye candy may actually be speeding it
up. Faster still would be a 2D environment that used the video card to
it's fullest capabilities without the transparency or animation, but
that would take even more time to develop for the relatively small
percentage of users that would have the hardware to run a full Aero
Glass environment, but not actually do it.