I'M SCARED!!!

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I'm ready to try and download the SP2 but after reading this board I'm scared
to death! What's going to stop working, will my computer not respond after
restarting, will my system crash all together. It seems everyone is having
issues! I ordered the disk so should I wait for that instead of downloading
it and what precautions can I take to keep myself from having all these
problems?
 
SP2 is a solid, secure release. It is a major "Critical Update"
for Windows XP and updates over 5 million lines of code,
enabling much stronger security, stability, and affords a tad better
performance benefit. SP2 was extensively tested on hundreds of
thousands of various computer configurations over a period of
many, many months. I would encourage you to install it at your
earliest convenience.

You may wish to view the following:

Top 10 Reasons to Install Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2)
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/topten.mspx

List of fixes included in Windows XP Service Pack 2
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;811113&Product=windowsxpsp2

Learn About Windows XP Service Pack 2
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/preinstall.mspx

Changes to Functionality in Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/sp2chngs.mspx

What to Know Before You Download and Install Windows XP Service Pack 2
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/sp2_whattoknow.mspx

Windows XP Service Pack 2 Checklist
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/xpsp2.htm

[Courtesy of MS-MVP Jupiter Jones]

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows XP - Shell/User

Be Smart! Protect Your PC!
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.aspx

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"drb_22" wrote:

| I'm ready to try and download the SP2 but after reading this board I'm scared
| to death! What's going to stop working, will my computer not respond after
| restarting, will my system crash all together. It seems everyone is having
| issues! I ordered the disk so should I wait for that instead of downloading
| it and what precautions can I take to keep myself from having all these
| problems?
 
If you notice the problems are generally related to improper maintenance of
the systems, or the folks just like to bash Microsoft. They quickly
un-install because of some little problem that could easly be resolved.

First clean your system. Download, install, update and scan with Ad-aware.
http://www.lavasoftusa.com
Run Disk Cleanup: Start> All programs>Accessories> Disk cleanup

Our Computer Club's 15 XP based systems all installed with no problems. We
have been urging all members to install SP2. We made copies of the SP2
installation disk, over 60 members have taken copies.
 
Don't be scared. Do a full backup (or two) and even if
it goes wrong, you can just recover. If you're not
backing up already, you're living on borrowed time anyway
(disk crash, software bug, worm, virus, user error etc.)

I haven't (yet) met anyone in person who has had an SP2
failure.
 
This is a group to post problems, not to post sp2 install success stories.
SP2 is fine. Prepare your computer correctly, get rid of all your viruses
and spyware, and you'll be fine. If you have a prescott processor find out
why not to install xp on this processor using google or ms's website.
 
drb_22 said:
I'm ready to try and download the SP2 but after reading this board I'm scared
to death! What's going to stop working, will my computer not respond after
restarting, will my system crash all together. It seems everyone is having
issues! I ordered the disk so should I wait for that instead of downloading
it and what precautions can I take to keep myself from having all these
problems?


Don't be scared; it's a service pack, not a virus. I've installed it
and my computer hasn't had so much as a hiccup. Most who are griping
about it have all kinds of programs on their computer and when one of
them doesn't react too well to the service pack, they bash Microsoft for
making a 'scary' or 'dangerous' service pack. Don't believe them.
Order it, download it, whatever. But get it and install it.

devhead
 
I have installed SP2 successfully on a goodly number of systems without any
problems. Wait for the CD to arrive, clean up your system, backup important
data, turn off your antivirus and firewall, don't run other programs while
SP2 is installing.
 
Hello,

This shouldn't scare you, lets say that there are 100 or so people here who
are having problems. There are millions of others out there that dont post
here because there isn't anything wrong with SP2
 
Hi drb_22 - Take a look here before you start - there's a lot of good
information to help you avoid installation problems and to help fix them if
they should occur: Windows XP - Service Pack 2 (SP2) - FAQs & Best
Practices http://forum.aumha.org/index.php

--
Please respond in the same thread.
Regards, Jim Byrd, MS-MVP



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Michael Ortega said:
This shouldn't scare you, lets say that there are 100 or so people here who
are having problems. There are millions of others out there that dont post
here because there isn't anything wrong with SP2

There are things wrong with SP2, unless Microsoft arranged a miracle
and somehow hired God to produce the first piece of software in the
history of mankind with no bugs or massive f&&kups! Claiming that
they did accomplish this is simply silly.

The industry average is a bug per 50 or 100 lines of code, pretty
much no matter how hard ordinary consumer quality dreck called
software tries to change that. Divide the oft quoted 5 million
lines of code fiddled with in SP2 by 50 or 100 and that estimates
there are likely 50000 or 10000 bugs still remaining in SP2.
I believe the published estimates for the number of bugs in XP when
it was first released was higher than this, but I'd have to find
the paper buried here somewhere, I think it was in IEEE Computing.
You might try reduce that number by a bit because this is the n-th
iteration of XP, but thus far every iteration of windows since 3.0
seems to have obeyed the same laws of software bugs, code size and
"features" keep growing fast enough to maintain the same bug rate.

There have been repeated admissions here by MVPs that there is no
way Microsoft could have tested this against all the multitude of
different bits of hardware and software that are out there. There
have even been some admission by MVPs that the beta testing done
by Microsoft leaves a number of things to be desired, because the
kind of people who get involved with that and the kinds of machines
it is tested on don't represent the range of customers or machines
it is going to end up getting used on. That might, if we were
generous, explain maybe even 80-90% of the problems real customers
have seen with this, but there is zero data to support that claim
thus far. But if you can't demonstrate a bug, and often even if
you can, it isn't going to get fixed.

And for your figure of 100 people with problems, by my count there
have been perhaps 100 people with the "Windows Explorer" problem,
about 90% of which appear to have not found a fix for that yet.

That doesn't even consider that likely a tiny tiny percentage of your
millions of customers have any idea how to find microsoft.public.*
or read it or make postings in it, whether they need it or not.
And any time you multiply a huge uncertain number times a tiny tiny
uncertain percentage the result is completely unknown.

I offered an even bet to the last person silly enough to claim that
there were no bugs in SP2, $100000 and a loaded pistol, winner take
all. I did caution them that their claim did refute the experience
of everyone with every piece of software ever written in the last
half century.
 
Most, not everyone, who posts here are having problems. The majority of
people do not.

It seems if you do your homework, and have a properly functioning system to
begin with, SP2 installs fine. Don't expect it to solve problems that exist
now. Fix them first!

--

Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)
 
drb_22 said:
I'm ready to try and download the SP2 but after reading this board I'm
scared
to death! What's going to stop working, will my computer not respond
after
restarting, will my system crash all together. It seems everyone is
having
issues! I ordered the disk so should I wait for that instead of
downloading
it and what precautions can I take to keep myself from having all these
problems?

The safe way to do it is to back up everything, format your hard disk,
reinstall XP, do a clean up/chkdsk/defrag in Safe Mode. Reboot and put the
SP 2 CD in your CDROM and install it. Do a clean up/chkdsk/defrag in Safe
Mode again and then install your programs doing a clean up/chkdsk/defrag in
Safe Mode after each program. Then install your devices such as a camera,
scanner, printer, etc.

I've done that with ten computers and all of them are humming along
wonderfully.

Alias
 
I appreciate everyone's input. All of you made some great points. After
reading most of the links you provided I have decided to wait until the disk
arrives and then try and take as many precautions as possible.

I'll be sure to let you know how it goes. Thats is unless explorer fails to
run! lol ;)
 
The worst case scenario is that your PC might explode!. I suggest download a pirating tool from Michael Stevens website called viewkey and use it on your system to get the info. Then consider a clean install using slipstreamed Windows XP. This method should also give you the opportunity to "spring clean" your system with all the clutter accumulated over the years!.

Hope his helps.
http://www.microscum.com/ns/mlslies/index.htm

In my case nothing Changed, but it is always good practice
to backup copy the documents & pictures folders as well as
any other config files (ini cfg)- I use belarc manager to
reveal my key and write it down or print the profile. Clean
out all IE critical areas, etc
If you use custom sounds make a copy of them!!
The only thing that stopped working for me was the
registration wizard, but since I had previously registered I
didn't worry.
 
The worst case scenario is that your PC might explode!. I suggest download a pirating tool from Michael Stevens website called viewkey and use it on your system to get the info. Then consider a clean install using slipstreamed Windows XP. This method should also give you the opportunity to "spring clean" your system with all the clutter accumulated over the years!.

Hope his helps.
http://www.microscum.com/ns/mlslies/index.htm

drb_22 said:
I'm ready to try and download the SP2 but after reading this board I'm scared
to death! What's going to stop working, will my computer not respond after
restarting, will my system crash all together. It seems everyone is having
issues! I ordered the disk so should I wait for that instead of downloading
it and what precautions can I take to keep myself from having all these
problems?

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I use non Microsoft products wherever possible which requires no activation.

I use Netscape 7.2 as my default browser which has everything I need for my work.

I believe in good Financial Management!! I do not believe in enriching rich jerks!
 

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