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Charles W Davis
Not true, the whole thing is a algorithm of how many different components. I
have changed a mother board and no problem with the system afterwards.
have changed a mother board and no problem with the system afterwards.
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Brandon W
if you don't know im the original poster
Wow... i didn't expect so many replies
....wow i just thought vista would just prevent me from accessing my computer
untill i reinstalled the hardware i wasn't suppsed to change... i had no idea
their were legal issues
and just to be clear i have Bought my copy of Windows Vista Legally via
Newegg OEM.
That kind of sucks because the reason i asked was because i was planning on
upgrading my motherboard in about a year. I built a budget PC, most of my
parts are decent, but i really went cheap on the motherboard.
Hopefully there can be a mutual agreement on my next question. If i decide
to upgrade my motherboard should i purchase a new copy of vista, or should i
contact them asking if it is ok?
Wow... i didn't expect so many replies
....wow i just thought vista would just prevent me from accessing my computer
untill i reinstalled the hardware i wasn't suppsed to change... i had no idea
their were legal issues
and just to be clear i have Bought my copy of Windows Vista Legally via
Newegg OEM.
That kind of sucks because the reason i asked was because i was planning on
upgrading my motherboard in about a year. I built a budget PC, most of my
parts are decent, but i really went cheap on the motherboard.
Hopefully there can be a mutual agreement on my next question. If i decide
to upgrade my motherboard should i purchase a new copy of vista, or should i
contact them asking if it is ok?
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Bistey Csaba
Well most likely Vista will prevent you accessing to your computer
(especially chipset differs on newe mobo) but that is not because of
licensing it is because it cant boot up on new hardware (with old mobo's
chipset drivers installed on it).
Before purchase i would switch to new mobo reinstall Vista at activation
you will have to call Microsoft (because key already in use), tell them
what happened, and let them decide. Most likely they will give you the
Activation ID to reactivate the product. But you should know that you
are the System Builder and they passed all warranty and support issues
to you. And they not have to reactivate Vista because of a motherboard
upgrade (most likely they will but they not have to).
This is the very reason i bought retail boxed product, aka changing
computer's parts often (3 motherboards, 2 processors, 8 ram modules, 2
GPUs,3 HDD's + checking parts from broken machines just since the relase
of Vista) and OEM is not an option (here).
Csaba
(especially chipset differs on newe mobo) but that is not because of
licensing it is because it cant boot up on new hardware (with old mobo's
chipset drivers installed on it).
Before purchase i would switch to new mobo reinstall Vista at activation
you will have to call Microsoft (because key already in use), tell them
what happened, and let them decide. Most likely they will give you the
Activation ID to reactivate the product. But you should know that you
are the System Builder and they passed all warranty and support issues
to you. And they not have to reactivate Vista because of a motherboard
upgrade (most likely they will but they not have to).
This is the very reason i bought retail boxed product, aka changing
computer's parts often (3 motherboards, 2 processors, 8 ram modules, 2
GPUs,3 HDD's + checking parts from broken machines just since the relase
of Vista) and OEM is not an option (here).
Csaba
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Bistey Csaba
NO, EULA gives the right to owner to install the software the device
with which he acquired the software with. (It's in EULA)
Thanks to OEM licensing changes (sblicense) that hole (aka buy oem with
a computer component) was closed:
Under the Software Distribution section of the Agreement, you will
notice it now states:
"4.1 We grant you a nonexclusive right to distribute an individual
software license only with a fully assembled computer system. A "fully
assembled computer system" means a computer system consisting of at
least a central processing unit, a motherboard, a hard drive, a power
supply, and a case."
You will notice the loophole that people have been exploiting (the
former language which stated that an OEM desktop Operating System
license could be sold with "non-peripheral hardware,") is no longer in
place. It is now very simple and straightforward: an OEM license must be
sold "only with a fully assembled computer system." Loophole closed.
Source: http://blogs.msdn.com/mssmallbiz/archive/2005/09/07/461950.aspx
And still ones selling OEM with a Cat5 cable.
Csaba
with which he acquired the software with. (It's in EULA)
Thanks to OEM licensing changes (sblicense) that hole (aka buy oem with
a computer component) was closed:
Under the Software Distribution section of the Agreement, you will
notice it now states:
"4.1 We grant you a nonexclusive right to distribute an individual
software license only with a fully assembled computer system. A "fully
assembled computer system" means a computer system consisting of at
least a central processing unit, a motherboard, a hard drive, a power
supply, and a case."
You will notice the loophole that people have been exploiting (the
former language which stated that an OEM desktop Operating System
license could be sold with "non-peripheral hardware,") is no longer in
place. It is now very simple and straightforward: an OEM license must be
sold "only with a fully assembled computer system." Loophole closed.
Source: http://blogs.msdn.com/mssmallbiz/archive/2005/09/07/461950.aspx
And still ones selling OEM with a Cat5 cable.
Csaba
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Colin Barnhorst
Correct. In any case the sb license doesn't apply to end users anyway.
Good post.
Good post.
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Colin Barnhorst
Brandon, please read the NewEgg disclaimer on the Specifications tab of the
product description page for the product you bought. The purchaser is not
supposed to be the end user but the system builder who makes the computer
for sale to the end user.
product description page for the product you bought. The purchaser is not
supposed to be the end user but the system builder who makes the computer
for sale to the end user.
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Gordon
Colin Barnhorst said:
So where does that leave someone who builds a system for their own use?
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Colin Barnhorst
He buys a retail copy of Windows. That's why there are retail copies.
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Gordon
Colin Barnhorst said:
But what is the definition of "System Builder"?
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Richard G. Harper
If you have to ask, it ain't you. 
Unless you are willing to accept the fact that no one will provide the
support you expect, don't buy an OEM copy. Period.
If you expect or need little to no support then you are probably a system
builder and don't need to worry about it.
Unless you are willing to accept the fact that no one will provide the
support you expect, don't buy an OEM copy. Period.
If you expect or need little to no support then you are probably a system
builder and don't need to worry about it.
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Colin Barnhorst
A system builder is not someone who does a DIY computer for himself. A
system builder is someone who builds systems for sale to customers. This is
all defined and supported by MS. See such sites as:
http://oem.microsoft.com/public/seo/licensing.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/oem/sblicense/default.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/oem/default.mspx
http://oem.microsoft.com/public/seo/partner_program.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/
http://oem.microsoft.com/public/seo/windows.htm
system builder is someone who builds systems for sale to customers. This is
all defined and supported by MS. See such sites as:
http://oem.microsoft.com/public/seo/licensing.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/oem/sblicense/default.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/oem/default.mspx
http://oem.microsoft.com/public/seo/partner_program.htm
http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/
http://oem.microsoft.com/public/seo/windows.htm
Richard G. Harper said:If you have to ask, it ain't you.
Unless you are willing to accept the fact that no one will provide the
support you expect, don't buy an OEM copy. Period.
If you expect or need little to no support then you are probably a system
builder and don't need to worry about it.
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Gordon said:
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Colin Barnhorst
See my reply to Richard. It is not a person building a system for himself.
For a do-it-yourself box you just buy a standard retail copy of Windows. It
is designed for people who did not buy a computer with Windows aready on it.
For a do-it-yourself box you just buy a standard retail copy of Windows. It
is designed for people who did not buy a computer with Windows aready on it.