IE6 super slow bringing up web pages

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ft

System: Windows XP SP2
P4 with 512MB RAM

Fully defraged; all temp files & cookies deleted; rebooted; no
firewall running; no virus checker running; Previous scans with MS
AntiSpyware, AdAware, Norton Virus Checker and The Cleaner all say the
system is clean.

Bring up Internet Explorer6 and type in a web site; any website and
there is exactly a 7 second delay before the site is resolved into its
IP address. Once that happens, my speedy cable modem brings up the
page with no problems.
This same problem is seen with the latest version of the Opera
browser.
However, if I load up FireFox browser (either version 1.0 or version
1.1) or even the old Netscape Communicator browser version 4.7, and
type in the same site, there is vitually no delay at all and the page
is on my screen in less then 1 second.
BUT, if I type in the site as its actual numerical IP address,
however, instead of its name, then Internet Explorer brings it to the
screen in about 1 sec. The 7 second delay is gone.

This seems to indicate that something is causing IE6 to experience a 7
second delay getting the information either to, or from, the DNS
server. But whatever is causing this, seems to have no effect on the
Firefox or Netscape Communicator browser.

The last piece to this puzzle is that my other computer (a P3 with
512MB RAM), also running Windows XP SP2, does NOT show this 7 second
delay with IE6!

I've tried opening a Command Prompt and typing: ipconfig/flushdns,
but this has had no effect on the problem noted above.

I've uninstalled and reinstalled Internet Explorer but still the same
problem persists.

I've changed the settings in TCP/IP for the adapter from automatically
getting the DNS server, to actual DNS server addresses but this has
done nothing to solve this issue.

I've dozens of spyware detectors; virus checkers and HijackThis.
nothing shows up.

I've used msconfig to disable all startup items as well as win.ini
and system.ini but the delay is STILL there?

IF I boot the system into SAFE MODE with Network access however, IE6
works just fine with no delays of any kind.

Can anyone help me with this situation?
Has anyone else experienced this? It would not seem to be a SP2
problem since, as noted, my other machine is running SP2 and this
oddity is not there.

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
 
G

Guest

Uhhhh - I'd sure like to know how to fix this problem - mine is exactly the
same. Althoug my new computer is a Pentium 4, 3.4 GHz 2GB Ram running XP Pro
with SP2 included.......
 
G

Guest

I found a solution to the same problem!
Use NETSCAPE!
Loads very fast & problem free!
 
G

Guest

Well - I tried Firefox and it works fine here. But I have to use IE so your
solution is not right for me. BTW it can not be right that you shoul'nt be
able to find a work around.
 
R

Rick Chauvin

ft said:
System: Windows XP SP2
P4 with 512MB RAM

Fully defraged; all temp files & cookies deleted; rebooted; no
firewall running; no virus checker running; Previous scans with MS
AntiSpyware, AdAware, Norton Virus Checker and The Cleaner all say the
system is clean.

Bring up Internet Explorer6 and type in a web site; any website and
there is exactly a 7 second delay before the site is resolved into its
IP address. Once that happens, my speedy cable modem brings up the
page with no problems.


I just noticed this registry tweak that solved the problem for me.
It's easy to change or put back if you want to try it.

Make a reg file with notepad and add enter this info, and then merge
it, or you can use regedit and manually delete the key but just be sure
you export it first so you have a way to enter it back in, or just make the
same reg below but just remove the minus - ...that's in front of HKEY...
....and merge it which enters that key back in:

REGEDIT4

[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer
\RemoteComputer\NameSpace\{D6277990-C6A-1CF-8D87-00AA0060F5BF}]

...watch the wrap!
Deleting that particular entry is suppose to gives faster webpage navigating
because it gives up priority to DNS lookup.
I found that info on google resulting from an inquiry in another post and if
you want to read more just find this subject header below that is in this
group and read my replies which gives links and info etc.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
----- Original Message -----
From: "srdiamond"
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.browser
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 9:15 PM
Subject: Kelly on Speeding Up IE
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

And then let us all know if it works for you. You can even download Kelly's
reg file already made which also has the other key mentioned within it; however
I think it's this first one I showed above that may be your issue ft - but let us know k.

Rick
 
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Rick Chauvin

Rick Chauvin wrote:
[...]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer
\RemoteComputer\NameSpace\{D6277990-C6A-1CF-8D87-00AA0060F5BF}]

Sorry, I mistakenly listed the next lines verbage for that reg entry:
Deleting that particular entry is suppose to gives faster webpage
navigating because it gives up priority to DNS lookup.

Where that is the another key doing dns priority, but the one above is for
speeding up network browsing...

...Better yet you can read about that at this link half way down the page:
http://www.tweakxp.com/article140082.aspx

Rick
 
F

ft

Well,
Problem is, my system DOES NOT HAVE that key at all, so I can't delete
it! :)
Neither do ANY of my WinXP systems.
Now where do we go??
- ft -


Rick Chauvin wrote:
[...]
[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer
\RemoteComputer\NameSpace\{D6277990-C6A-1CF-8D87-00AA0060F5BF}]

Sorry, I mistakenly listed the next lines verbage for that reg entry:
Deleting that particular entry is suppose to gives faster webpage
navigating because it gives up priority to DNS lookup.

Where that is the another key doing dns priority, but the one above is for
speeding up network browsing...

..Better yet you can read about that at this link half way down the page:
http://www.tweakxp.com/article140082.aspx

Rick
 
R

Rick Chauvin

ft said:
Well,
Problem is, my system DOES NOT HAVE that key at all, so I can't delete
it! :)
Neither do ANY of my WinXP systems.
Now where do we go??
- ft -

Don't know.
I can only say it took care of my 2 second pause problem - now instant.

Did you try the other registry changes on that page too with dns, etc?

If you don't get an answer within a few days maybe start a new post again to
keep it going.

Rick
 
F

ft

The real interesting thing is that if I bring the system up in Safe
mode, the problem is gone. So, it must be a driver or registry entry
that is causing the issue.
 
R

Rick Chauvin

ft said:
The real interesting thing is that if I bring the system up in Safe
mode, the problem is gone. So, it must be a driver or registry entry
that is causing the issue.


I need to retract part of my statement to say that come to find out that on
that day my particular interest in this problem was not solved by the one
registry change I pointed to afterall - actually it was just the website
having a problem - I did not. I should of tested it more. Testing it just
now even after reboots - whether or not that key .......00AA0060F5BF} is
there or not does not matter - for me. Actually for the issue it's listed for
it shouldn't.

Any webpages for me open up from instantly to sometimes can take 5 seconds
for the dns to be resolved but that does not mean that it's a problem with
Explorer. WXP uses it's own dns resolving but on mine I have it disabled,
but actually at the moment I'm posting this from W98SE IE6SP1 and have been
switching around on OS's doing this and that. But if I could delete all my
posts here I would since I don't want them to suggest is solves the problem
when it was just that one day of the flip between switching links showed it
to take care of the problem when actually it was happenstance. sorry for
any misunderstanding.

Kelly and others have posted those fixes for reasons, and I'm sure they work
for those reasons.

I have no idea ft what your problem is and again I would suggest for you to
repost again up front with simple concise details again. The post turnover
is fast in this groups and this thread is old here now to get noticed as
well.

all the best

Rick
 
F

ft

Thanks Rick,
The IE6 problem I've been noted is clearly something real and
un-related to websites.
I have since allowed the icon that shows network connection activity
to be visible (in system tray).
What is seem after I enter a web address and hit the Enter key is
this:
1. The icon shows a brief flicker of both lights
2. Then there is absolutely no line activity for at least 7 secs.
Meanwhile the IE logo is spinning like hell.
3. Then in the lower left-hand corner of IE, I see it state that it is
opening blah blah web site. The icon lights then begin to flicker on
and off.
4. The page begins to appear in the browser, often in studder-step
fashion.

With Firefox however, the page comes up so quickly that I can't even
count to one! The little icon lights are blazing and the page is just
there! This scenerio I just described happens all the time, with any
and all webpages that I try. My cable modem is showing an average Kbps
of between 2800 and 4000.

So far, to date, no tweaks or any kind (and I have tried probably a
dozen or more) have had any effect what-so-ever on this problem.
The system is absolutely clean. Norton, The Cleaner, Panda, AdAware,
Spybot, MS AntiSpyware, etc., etc., etc., all show the system as
clean. HiJackThis shows all normal and explainable listings. All ports
are stealthed. Disengaging the virus checkers and the firewall
protection does nothing to alleviate the problem.

But, my other computer, networked via a hub to this box, also running
WinXP SP2 does not show any such problem. IE6 is super fast on that
machine - as fast as Firefox is on this box.

But if I boot into Safe Mode on this machine, IE6 is perfect.

Thanks again and I will and do periodically re-post the problem in the
hope someone has seen this and has managed to figure it out.
In the meantime, I've become very pleased with Firefox! :)
Regards
 
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Rick Chauvin

jt,

Besides some of the things you just said in todays post but going back and
re-reading your previous post which has a good layout of info too was :
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: "ft"
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.inetexplorer.ie6.browser
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 8:06 PM
Subject: IE6 super slow bringing up web pages
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

...and combining the facts from both of these explaining your problem what
catches my attention is where you say:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
BUT, if I type in the site as its actual numerical IP address,
however, instead of its name, then Internet Explorer brings it to the
screen in about 1 sec. The 7 second delay is gone
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

....if I didn't take that statement out of context in regards to what else you
have running? ...then I thought maybe that was a pretty good clue.

As I alluded to in my last post with what I do, check to see what happens if
you shut off your WXP DNS resolving feature. You can get to it a few ways
but one way is to go to: Start> Programs> Administrative Tools> Services>
...and look for the "DNS Client" entry and right click on it and in that box
change the 'Startup type' from Automatic to Manual ..click Okay and Reboot.

...See if that changes the delay action any? ? ?

(If you don't have your "Services" listed off the Start menu like I do then
you can also get to it from the Control Panel> Administrative Tools, icon)

Rick
 
F

ft

As I alluded to in my last post with what I do, check to see what happens if
you shut off your WXP DNS resolving feature. You can get to it a few ways
but one way is to go to: Start> Programs> Administrative Tools> Services>
..and look for the "DNS Client" entry and right click on it and in that box
change the 'Startup type' from Automatic to Manual ..click Okay and Reboot.

..See if that changes the delay action any? ? ?
Nope.
Identical problem.
Doesn't seem to make any difference to Firefox, by the way, whether
this service is automatic or manual. It is still flying like a jet!
I'm going to put that service back to automatic, just for housekeeping
sake.
Are we having fun yet? :)
Regards
 
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Rick Chauvin

ft said:
Are we having fun yet? :)
Regards

You did Reboot after you put it to manual to try it right ?

Okay if that didn't do it, then I still dunno.

Even if you turned that DNS service off it would still fly yes because the
'Web' does it's own DNS lookup anyway, and WXP uses a local DNS lookup
service so that it may give a quicker load if it has the ip already cached
for you - I never use it myself and it's off. I didn't care for it always
wanting firewall access and so the less services I have connecting to
the outside the happier I am :)

I'm out of ideas for ya

good luck
Rick
 
F

ft

You did Reboot after you put it to manual to try it right ?

Okay if that didn't do it, then I still dunno.


I'm out of ideas for ya
Yeah. Rebooted. No dice.
Anyway, this entire issue has become an academic exercise for me.
I'm enthralled with Firefox and my system is running perfectly (with
the exception of IE6). So, if it says "broken", then it stays broken!
I'll periodically re-post the situation just to see if there *IS* a
fix for it but otherwise.......
Thanks again.
 

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