IDE drive faster than SATA Abit AT7 MAX2

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Matti Luotola

Forget to mention.. that hitachi tool crashes at searching the drives.
It finds primary master and then whole program crashes.. Does that
everytime. Do you have more programs that I could try ;) ?

-Matti
"Matti said:
Hi.

Tried both tools. Everest tells me:
Max. UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 5 (ATA-100)
Active UDMA Transfer Mode UDMA 5 (ATA-100)
So it should be OK.

When running Sandra 2005 File System Benchmark for that drive whole
program crashes.. "Not responding" after 15min or so.. ?? So something
strange there seems to be..
What is that tool by which I can change those operating speeds?

-Matti

On this page:
http://www.seagate.com/support/disc/utils.html

I see this tool:
http://www.seagate.com/support/disc/download/uata100d.exe

There is also "Feature Tool (v2.00)" on this page, which
may or may not work on other brands of drives:

http://www.hitachigst.com/hdd/support/download.htm

Paul
Thanks for the tip Paul but it didn=B4t help. So I think it won=B4t be
slow becouse of CRC errors. Any other suggestions?

-Matti

Your burst score of 66.7MB/sec tells me the hardware is
set to ATA66 rate. You can actually get a tool from the disk
manufacturer, and permanently force the drive to operate
at a slower rate (so the problem can be a setting of the
drive hardware itself).

The problem can also be the setting of the controller
on the motherboard. You need to find a utility that can
display the current mode the hardware is in. Perhaps
Sisoftware Sandra or Lavalys Everest (Home Edition discontinued,
but can still be found for download).

"EVEREST Free Edition 2.20"
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=4181

Paul


Paul wrote:
I have a Seagate barracuda 7200.9 250GB drive which seems to be awfully
slow. Drive itself works ok. I=3DB4ve installed windows xp also on it b=
ut
its just damn slow. I tried uncompressing same image from other drive
which is Seagate 200GB ide. IDE drives unpacks it on 41s. Sata drive
unpacks in 3min 11sec so I think this is rather significant
difference.(CPU utilization aint=3DB4t 100% so CPU ain=3DB4t the bottle=
neck)

I have latest hpt 374 drivers (3.04) installed, tried raising the PCI
latency timer and also tried both of my sata ports on motherboard. I
have no option to anable write caching from device manager which is on
some hard drives so I can=3DB4t try it. Also tried SeaTools (tools from
seagate) and it also sayed that everything is ok but nothing seems to
help to slow speed.
Scores I got from HD TACH:

Seagate 250GB SATA

Burst Speed 66.7 MB/s
Random Access 15.5 ms
CPU Utilization 5% [+/- 2%]
Average Read 55.7 MB/s

My 200GB ide drive gives much better burst speed:

Burst Speed 93.8 MB/s
Random Access 15.6 ms
CPU Utilization 5% [+/- 2%]
Average Read 53.1 MB/s

So is there some option to turn on dma access to SATA drives or
something.. Becouse this thing looks like its working without it or
what could I try?

If CRC errors or communications problems are detected with a
disk drive, Windows can reduce the communications rate, in an
attempt to fix it. See the "Workaround" section of this page:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=3Dkb;en-us;817472

It looks like you are in an ATA66 mode, judging by your burst speed.

Sometimes this is caused by a loose SATA cable. The latest
motherboard connectors have a retention feature, that if you
use a SATA cable with the latch on the end, it helps prevent
the SATA cable from falling off. The new cable will still plug
into an old motherboard, but if the latch on the new cable has
no place to grip, the new cable will not be retained any better
than an old cable.
=20
HTH,
Paul
 
K

kony

Forget to mention.. that hitachi tool crashes at searching the drives.
It finds primary master and then whole program crashes.. Does that
everytime. Do you have more programs that I could try ;) ?

-Matti

You shouldn't need them for an SATA drive/controller.
SATA drives and controllers are not prone to running in
ATA66 mode, it is an impossiblity.


If you really want to improve the drive performance then try
a newer SATA controller driver, if one exists, and then look
at what's on your PCI bus and trying to optimize it. What
motherboard/motherboard-chipset do you have?

You might also try "PCI Latency Tool" (Google for it).
 
M

Matti Luotola

My motherboard is Abit AT7-MAX2 and it has HPT 374 controller. HPT has
newest bios and windows drivers (v3.04)

-Matti
 

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