I want to ask questions about .NET to people who know more about it than I do...

[Anonymous]

I saw a recent posting in this newsgroup about Rasterbator. I went to
the website and I read the description. I think that I would like to
have it---but it requires Microsoft .NET to be installed on the
computer first.

I run Win2K and there are no piracy issues with the software
applications that I own and use in my machine. I value my privacy, and
I have a wise and healthy paranoia about any software product that
Microsoft produced and marketed after 1999.

I want to ask questions about .NET and Rasterbator to the people who
know more about those products than I do:

* Why should I load .NET?
* What does .NET actually do?
* Does .NET adversely impact the machine? (Does it try to take over all
the software and post a dialog box on your screen at bootup saying "We
are Microsoft, you will be assimilated, resistance is futile.")
* Are you happy or sorry that you loaded .NET?
* Does .NET have any "online activation requirements" or any other
"phone home" or "phone friends" capabilities?
* Does the standalone version of Rasterbator really increase the size
of the image right on your own home computer or does it send the job
into the website's queue for processing? (This one is the deal-breaker
because if the standalone wizard doesn't do the work by itself then I
don't need it because I can enter a job into the queue right from the
Rasterbator website.)

Thanks for your help!

 

[jmatt]

Been using .NET Framework for years, more & more programers are are
using it.

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...95-717C-4EF7-817B-BDEFD6947019&displaylang=en

http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=.NET+Framework&btnG=Search&meta=

Don't use Rasterbator.

 

[Anonymous]

(e-mail address removed) explained on 1/28/2006 :

Don't use Rasterbator.

I'll take your word for Rasterbator and I won't use it...but could you
please tell me why?

 

[jmatt]

Plenty of Rasterbator info here.

http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=Rasterbator+&btnG=Search&meta=

 

[jmatt]

"'Ill take your word for Rasterbator and I won't use it...but could you
please tell me why?"

Opp's sorry, that was a personel statement, should have read, I don't
have any reason to use Rasterbator or anything like it.

 

[Craig]

(e-mail address removed) explained on 1/28/2006 :



...but could you please tell me why?

Fair question. Why?

- Craig

 

[Craig]

"'Ill take your word for Rasterbator and I won't use it...but could you
please tell me why?"

Opp's sorry, that was a personel statement, should have read, I don't
have any reason to use Rasterbator or anything like it.

Thanks for taking the time to clarify.

-Craig

 

[Don Boring]

I saw a recent posting in this newsgroup about Rasterbator. I went to
the website and I read the description. I think that I would like to
have it---but it requires Microsoft .NET to be installed on the
computer first.

I once downloaded an RSS reader that required
Microsoft .NET so I downloaded it and installed
..NET and the next thing I knew a NEW IDENTITY
had been installed on my computer, and "IT" was
the default user and I was the 'guest.'

Needless to say, I uninstalled the sucker and will
never try it again. While individual results MAY vary,
I don't recommend it. I don't even use MS XP SP2!



Don Boring
Glendora, CA USA

Cloned Sheep? "No, they're not cloning sheep. It's the same sheep! I saw Harry Blackstone
do that trick with two goats and a handkerchief on the old Dean Martin show!"

Cosmo Kramer on "Seinfeld"

 

[Mark Warner]

(e-mail address removed) explained on 1/28/2006 :


I'll take your word for Rasterbator and I won't use it...but could you
please tell me why?

I think he meant that *he* doesn't use it.

 

[jmatt]

"NEW IDENTITY
had been installed on my computer, and "IT" was
the default user and I was the 'guest.' "

Dos'nt do that any more Don.

In old versions it is easy to change.

The account it adds is called ASP.NET Machine. It is in User Accounts
in Control Panel, and it IS SAFE to delete.

Log into your normal account, open User Accounts and delete the ASP.NET
Machine account.

Another way.

Start > Run, copy & paste "control userpasswords2" without the quotes &
hit Enter.

Highlight the username you want to autologin and uncheck the box and
hit Apply. You will then be prompted for your password.

Everything is then back to Normal.

 

[Al Klein]

* Why should I load .NET?

1) You're a masochist.

2) You like slow, unwieldy things, that get slower and more unwieldy
over time.

3) You still have "sucker" tatooed on your forehead.

* What does .NET actually do?

It's the stuff that the program calls to do its work. IOW, the
program may have code that says "Print this line of text on the
screen"> "Print <> on the screen" is part of .Net - the program only
supplies the <> stuff and the call to .Net do do the printing. It's
called a library. Or, in this case, it's called unbelievably bloated
garbage.

* Does .NET adversely impact the machine? (Does it try to take over all
the software and post a dialog box on your screen at bootup saying "We
are Microsoft, you will be assimilated, resistance is futile.")

No, but it eats a lot of disk space and almost anything that can be
written in .Net can be written more efficiently (from the yser's
[your] viewpoint) in something else. I only write in .Net if a) the
customer insists on it, b) I can't talk him out of it, c) it's a very
interesting project and d) the customer is willing to pay me huge
amounts of money for my pain and suffering.

Actually d) is enough sometimes, for huge values of "huge".

* Are you happy or sorry that you loaded .NET?

Sorry that I loaded it. Sorry that I learned it. Sorry that
Microsoft, in its infinite stupidity, invented it. And sorry that
anyone ever heard of it.

* Does .NET have any "online activation requirements" or any other
"phone home" or "phone friends" capabilities?

None of which I'm aware. Neither does an HI Virus, but I wouldn't
voluntarily "load" it on my (biological) "system".

* Does the standalone version of Rasterbator really increase the size
of the image right on your own home computer or does it send the job
into the website's queue for processing?

From the information on the site, it should work with no internet
connection.

Be aware, though, that if you load a .Net framework newer than 1.1,
the program may stop working. (.Net isn't always upward and/or
downward compatible. I maintain 2 .Net machines, one for each version
I'll work in.)

 

[Anonymous]

After serious thinking Al Klein wrote :

3) You still have "sucker" tatooed on your forehead.

I think I'll pass on the .NET thing. Thanks for responding!

 

[John Corliss]

* Why should I load .NET?

1) You're a masochist.
2) You like slow, unwieldy things, that get slower and more unwieldy
over time.
3) You still have "sucker" tatooed on your forehead.

* What does .NET actually do?

It's the stuff that the program calls to do its work. IOW, the
program may have code that says "Print this line of text on the
screen"> "Print <> on the screen" is part of .Net - the program only
supplies the <> stuff and the call to .Net do do the printing. It's
called a library. Or, in this case, it's called unbelievably bloated
garbage.

* Does .NET adversely impact the machine? (Does it try to take over all
the software and post a dialog box on your screen at bootup saying "We
are Microsoft, you will be assimilated, resistance is futile.")

No, but it eats a lot of disk space and almost anything that can be
written in .Net can be written more efficiently (from the yser's
[your] viewpoint) in something else. I only write in .Net if a) the
customer insists on it, b) I can't talk him out of it, c) it's a very
interesting project and d) the customer is willing to pay me huge
amounts of money for my pain and suffering.

Actually d) is enough sometimes, for huge values of "huge".

* Are you happy or sorry that you loaded .NET?

Sorry that I loaded it. Sorry that I learned it. Sorry that
Microsoft, in its infinite stupidity, invented it. And sorry that
anyone ever heard of it.

* Does .NET have any "online activation requirements" or any other
"phone home" or "phone friends" capabilities?

None of which I'm aware. Neither does an HI Virus, but I wouldn't
voluntarily "load" it on my (biological) "system".

* Does the standalone version of Rasterbator really increase the size
of the image right on your own home computer or does it send the job
into the website's queue for processing?

From the information on the site, it should work with no internet
connection.

Be aware, though, that if you load a .Net framework newer than 1.1,
the program may stop working. (.Net isn't always upward and/or
downward compatible. I maintain 2 .Net machines, one for each version
I'll work in.)

Al,
Thanks for posting this here. And I notice the following link today
from the Microsoft .net website:

http://www.webservicespipeline.com/175001654

As I've been saying all along, MS wants to rent online software, not
allow people to purchase permanent licenses to run it from their hard
drives.

Dotnet is a major step in that direction. Eventually this will be shoved
down everybody's throats.

 

[Al Klein]

As I've been saying all along, MS wants to rent online software, not
allow people to purchase permanent licenses to run it from their hard
drives.

Dotnet is a major step in that direction. Eventually this will be shoved
down everybody's throats.

Not by those of us who write software for users. (As opposed to those
who tell users "this is what I wrote, so learn how to use it".)

 

[John Corliss]

Not by those of us who write software for users. (As opposed to those
who tell users "this is what I wrote, so learn how to use it".)

Thanks, Al. I really do appreciate that.