I need to upgrade an Abit KT7 hard disk.

[mydejamail]

I need to upgrade an Abit KT7 hard disk, but I know that some of the
older motherboards have problems with large hard disks. The current
disk in it is 30G IBM hard disk, but I want to go for todays 320G.

If the BIOS isn't compatible with hard disks of this size, will Windows
XP be able to work around it?

I also wonder whether an external USB disk of that size will be alright
with Windows, so that I can still use the current one for programs and
use the external disk for data.

 

[Arno Wagner]

I need to upgrade an Abit KT7 hard disk, but I know that some of the
older motherboards have problems with large hard disks. The current
disk in it is 30G IBM hard disk, but I want to go for todays 320G.

If the BIOS isn't compatible with hard disks of this size, will Windows
XP be able to work around it?
No.

I also wonder whether an external USB disk of that size will be alright
with Windows, so that I can still use the current one for programs and
use the external disk for data.

Depends. External USB goes through the SCSI driver and will work.
External SATA depends on the SATA controller and BIOS. Should
work however.

Arno

 

[Dylan C]

I need to upgrade an Abit KT7 hard disk, but I know that some of the
older motherboards have problems with large hard disks. The current
disk in it is 30G IBM hard disk, but I want to go for todays 320G.

If the BIOS isn't compatible with hard disks of this size, will Windows
XP be able to work around it?

I also wonder whether an external USB disk of that size will be alright
with Windows, so that I can still use the current one for programs and
use the external disk for data.

buy a PCI controller card like the one linked below. Standard IDE
versions are also available.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815102102

-Dylan C

 

[MalcolmO]

If the BIOS isn't compatible with hard disks of this size, will Windows

XP be able to work around it?

You can get an updated BIOS from here:

http://www.abit-usa.com/downloads/bios/

XP will be fine with new drive, though 48-bit LBA disks need to be
enabled in the registry.

 

[Rod Speed]

You can get an updated BIOS from here:

XP will be fine with new drive, though 48-bit LBA disks need to be enabled in the registry.

Nope, that's 2K. XP needs SP1 or later.

 

[Bird Janitor®]

(e-mail address removed) wrote:

| I need to upgrade an Abit KT7 hard disk, but I know that some
| of the older motherboards have problems with large hard disks.
| The current disk in it is 30G IBM hard disk, but I want to go for
| todays 320G.
|
| If the BIOS isn't compatible with hard disks of this size, will
| Windows XP be able to work around it?
|
| I also wonder whether an external USB disk of that size will be
| alright with Windows, so that I can still use the current one for
| programs and use the external disk for data.
|

There's no need for an external USB disk or an add-on PCI card.

You need two things:
.. 48-bit LBA compatible BIOS
.. 48-bit LBA compatible OS/Drivers

BIOS :
The two most recent versions of the Abit BIOS support 48-bit LBA for disks
larger than 137GB (decimal) on the IDE1/IDE2 channels.

OS/Drivers :
Windows 2000 (SP3 or later) and Windows XP (SP1 or later) provide 48-bit LBA
support. There has been recent discussion on the Abit group (cross-posted
to the Windows 98 storage group), where the KT7_A9 BIOS and most recent VIA
IDE Miniport driver was used with a large disk under Windows 98SE.

If you have the KT7-RAID or KT7A-RAID board, you'll need a modded BIOS to
support large disks on the Highpoint controller (IDE3/IDE4).

I have modified the latest versions of the KT7 BIOS' to support 48-bit LBA
on the Highpoint controller. I removed the version 1.11.0402 Highpoint BIOS
and substituted the version 2.351 Highpoint BIOS. I made no other changes.

You can pick up my modded BIOS', as well as a link to the version 2.351
Highpoint drivers, at my personal web space :
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/jefn/kt7.html

Jef

 

[Arno Wagner]

buy a PCI controller card like the one linked below. Standard IDE
versions are also available.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16815102102

Personally I have made good experiences with nin-RAID controllers
from Promise.

The controller BIOS on this type of controller gets around
the mainboard limitations by having its own BIOS extension
on board.

Arno

 

[Folkert Rienstra]

Nope, that's 2K.
Nonsense.

XP needs SP1 or later.

So does W2k (need SP2, that is).

 

[Folkert Rienstra]

No.

Wrong.
The bios can be disabled to let the drive pass if the bios is limited to less than 137GB.
If limited to 137GB it is not a problem for the BIOS, it will just recognize 137GB.
The problem with BIOS is limited to DOS and drive partitioning from within Windows
(INT13) of which the latter may well be circumvented by disabling the BIOS and let
the driver supply 48-bit INT13.

Depends. External USB goes through the SCSI driver and will work.

So, what depends then.

External SATA depends on the SATA controller

and BIOS.

Wrong again. It depends on the Windows SATA driver.

Should work however.

So much for that "will Windows XP be able to work around it? No." then.

 

[Rod Speed]

Nonsense.

Nope, you dont need to enable it in the registry with XP.

So does W2k (need SP2, that is).

Wrong again.

 

[MalcolmO]

XP will be fine with new drive, though 48-bit LBA disks need to be enabled in the registry.

Nonsense.

http://www.48bitlba.com/win2Khb.htm suggests that Rod has it right.

So does W2k (need SP2, that is).

SP3, according to the same site.

 

[Folkert Rienstra]

http://www.48bitlba.com/win2Khb.htm suggests that Rod has it right.

Depends on how you read his original.
It was true for the original edition of XP so it would have been clearer
if he had said "Nope, that's 2K. XP SP1 or later doesn't need it".

If you don't want the hassle to get it working with the original edition.

SP3, according to the same site.

Yes, so says Microsoft. My bad (read Q305098 too hastely) .

 

[Rod Speed]

Depends on how you read his original.
Nope.

It was true for the original edition of XP
Nope.

so it would have been clearer if he had said
"Nope, that's 2K. XP SP1 or later doesn't need it".

That would have been wrong. So I didnt say that.

If you don't want the hassle to get it working with the original edition.

Go tell MS who knows better.

Yes, so says Microsoft. My bad (read Q305098 too hastely) .

Pity it doesnt say what you claim about the original XP either.

 

[Folkert Rienstra]

Yup.

Nope.

Yup, Q303013.

Just as (half) true as your "Nope, that's 2K", with there being a 'proviso'.

That would have been wrong. So I didnt say that.

So was
"Nope, that's 2K" without mentioning the "proviso", which you have no problem with.

Go tell MS who knows better.

No need: Q303013. Last time I looked it came from MS themselves.

Pity it doesnt say what you claim about the original XP either.

Yes, isn't that odd eh, Roddles, a 2K document not detailing the
problem that it doesn't know about in XP. Long night, Roddles?

 

[Rod Speed]

Nope.

Yup, Q303013.

Pity that clearly says

This article describes the Microsoft Windows XP Service
Pack 1 (SP1) 48-bit Logical Block Addressing (LBA) support

Try again, ****wit.

None of the rest of your desperate attempts to bullshit your
way out of your predicament worth bothering with, as always.

 

[Rod Speed]

Nope.

Yup, Q303013.

Pity that clearly says

This article describes the Microsoft Windows XP Service
Pack 1 (SP1) 48-bit Logical Block Addressing (LBA) support

Note Windows XP does not support 48-bit LBA support unless
you are running Windows XP SP1. If you want to use 48-bit LBA
support, you must apply Windows XP SP1 or later.

Try again, ****wit.

None of the rest of your desperate attempts to bullshit your
way out of your predicament worth bothering with, as always.

 

[Folkert Rienstra]

Pity that clearly says

This article describes the Microsoft Windows XP Service
Pack 1 (SP1) 48-bit Logical Block Addressing (LBA) support

Note Windows XP does not support 48-bit LBA support unless
you are running Windows XP SP1. If you want to use 48-bit LBA
support, you must apply Windows XP SP1 or later.

Try again, ****wit.

Nice posturing, Roddles.
You must be getting a bit desperate if you need two attempts to discredit me.

Unfortunately those with more than your 2 braincells can read beyond that and see
how the article goes on describing editing the registry to enable 48-bit support
even though it also says that SP1 ignores these settings. So obviously this is for
original XP. Unfortunately it seems to say that if you finally have 48-bit support
working and actually address space above 137GB it will **** up. I say "seems" as it
may well be the same problem that even some SP1 deliveries still have and is warned
for, see below.
You may actually be okay if you don't do "entering standby or hibernation or
writing a memory dump".
They just don't tell, all that they say is that "Data corruption *may* occur".

The article also speaks of checking for the correct version of ATAPI.SYS so
anyone with more than your 2 braincells can work out that that is where the
working 48-bit support is. And waddayaknow, that is available as a hotfix.

 

[Rod Speed]

the article goes on describing editing the registry to enable 48-bit
support even though it also says that SP1 ignores these settings.
So obviously this is for original XP. Unfortunately it seems to say
that if you finally have 48-bit support working and actually address
space above 137GB it will **** up. I say "seems" as it may well be
the same problem that even some SP1 deliveries still have and is
warned for, see below.

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

You may actually be okay if you don't do "entering
standby or hibernation or writing a memory dump".
They just don't tell, all that they say is that "Data corruption
*may* occur".

Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.

The article also speaks of checking for the correct version
of ATAPI.SYS so anyone with more than your 2 braincells
can work out that that is where the working 48-bit support
is. And waddayaknow, that is available as a hotfix.

ALL SPs include earlier hotfixes, ****wit.

Says nothing useful what so ever about your stupid pig ignorant
claim that the original XP has 48 bit LBA support JUST by enabling
it in the registry, as you originally pig ignorantly claimed.