i have had enough !!! help before i snap this radeon in half !

J

Jay

got a 9700np other day great i thought swopped my ti4400 for this and £50
bargin I thought !

Why do all my games keep crashing RANDOMLY either kicking me to desktop or
rebooting altogther.

This is what i've tried so far to no avial
bought artic VGA Cooler
upped agp voltage to 1.7
upped vcore to 1.8
fast writes off

my system is as follows

barton 2500 (10.5*200)
corsair pc3200LL 2/2/2/2
gigabyte radeon 9700np
sparkle 300w psu

Had no problems with the TI4400 so whats up are these cards that unstable
using cat 3.9's

IDEAS plz this is driving me up the wall !!!
 
S

Strontium

Seems like a fairly borderline wattage, for power supply, with that card and
that processor/memory. Also, have you updated your motherboard drivers?
You don't mention your motherboard.

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Jay stood up at show-n-tell, in
[email protected], and said:
got a 9700np other day great i thought swopped my ti4400 for this and
£50 bargin I thought !

Why do all my games keep crashing RANDOMLY either kicking me to
desktop or rebooting altogther.

This is what i've tried so far to no avial
bought artic VGA Cooler
upped agp voltage to 1.7
upped vcore to 1.8
fast writes off

my system is as follows

barton 2500 (10.5*200)
corsair pc3200LL 2/2/2/2
gigabyte radeon 9700np
sparkle 300w psu

Had no problems with the TI4400 so whats up are these cards that
unstable using cat 3.9's

IDEAS plz this is driving me up the wall !!!
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B

Ben Pope

Jay said:
got a 9700np other day great i thought swopped my ti4400 for this and £50
bargin I thought !

Why do all my games keep crashing RANDOMLY either kicking me to desktop or
rebooting altogther.

This is what i've tried so far to no avial
bought artic VGA Cooler
upped agp voltage to 1.7
upped vcore to 1.8
fast writes off

my system is as follows

barton 2500 (10.5*200)
corsair pc3200LL 2/2/2/2
gigabyte radeon 9700np
sparkle 300w psu
Click to expand...

Power output seems a bit low for that system, probably a good starting point
would be to use a higher output one for a bit, see if it helps.

Also, use Det Destroyer to get rid of the old nVidia drivers, they're known
to cause problems when converting to ATI.

Ben
 
D

DaveW

Yes, I've heard that they're unstable using Cat.3.9 driver. That is a DX9
compatible driver and your 9700 card is NOT DX9 compatible. Try an older
driver for stability.
 
S

Strontium

You keep spewing crap, just like the Energizer bunny...

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DaveW stood up at show-n-tell, in 3mOCb.383603$275.1239159@attbi_s53, and
said:
Yes, I've heard that they're unstable using Cat.3.9 driver. That is
a DX9 compatible driver and your 9700 card is NOT DX9 compatible.
Try an older driver for stability.
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J

Jay

sorry epox 8rda+ mainboard running XP PRO fresh install so no nvidia drivers
lurking, have wondered abouyt PSU as ot kinda makes this whirring noise ,
any recommendations on PSU 330w or 400w ?
Any brands worth avoiding or getting?

thnx for the help
 
J

Jay

oh yer by thw way you are offically retarded, if you dont know what your on
about dont post ,
you make yourelf look like an idiot.........funny for us but for you......
 
T

Thomas

Jay said:
sorry epox 8rda+ mainboard running XP PRO fresh install so no nvidia
drivers lurking, have wondered abouyt PSU as ot kinda makes this
whirring noise , any recommendations on PSU 330w or 400w ?
Any brands worth avoiding or getting?
Click to expand...

I'd recommend a brand name; antec/enermax/zalman or sth like that. I went
from Macron 400 Watt to Enermax 365, and it's helped my PC a bit ;-)

If you take no-name, take a 400.

And take a PSU with double fan, please ;-) Helps cooling the CPU quite much.

Thomas.
 
M

Minotaur

DaveW said:
Yes, I've heard that they're unstable using Cat.3.9 driver. That is a DX9
compatible driver and your 9700 card is NOT DX9 compatible. Try an older
driver for stability.
Click to expand...

Incorrect, are you a space monkey on acid?
 
F

FaxCap

sorry epox 8rda+ mainboard running XP PRO fresh install so no nvidia drivers
lurking, have wondered abouyt PSU as ot kinda makes this whirring noise ,
any recommendations on PSU 330w or 400w ?
Any brands worth avoiding or getting?

thnx for the help
Click to expand...

Like someone else pointed out the wattage ratings on cheap supplies is
worth very little. Get a brand name power supply like Antec or
Enermax. I like the Antec more than the Enermax.

You should see the difference between a Sunny/CWT power supply and an
Antec!!! The Antec is built like a rock with big thick and heavy fans
while the Sunny is light weight with cheap fans. You get what you pay
for.
 
M

mikey

PS is a tad on the light side but there are several factors that may be
the problem as well. Your ram timings may be too aggressive even for LL
sticks. How much ram, how many sticks, and are they in dual array, all can
effect timing. Try the SPD timing or maybe 2-3-3-5 and. Operating at 8x AGP
can be flaky on some mobos, try cutting back to 4x in bios and see what
happens (there might be a more stable bios version available for
reflashing). Also, what's your OS? Win98 starts to get flaky at 512MB &
above. My own experience has been that the ATI drivers are much more stable
in XP than 98/ME.
Certainly AGPv of 1.7 is more than enough (and probably unnecessary if
not OCing). Also was this a used card that maybe somebody decided to reflash
the bios trying to get PRO performance? Also was a fresh install, did you
remember to update the mobo drivers and last but not least what version DX
are you using or are these games being run in GL?

best-0-luck,
mikey
 
J

Jay

os is XP pro, so u reckon run the ram cas 2.0 the 3.3.5, also ut2003 runs
fine as does q3 for what i can gather maxpayne2, doom3 alpha, halo seems to
be effected
no card is uses normal bios ,
 
M

mikey

Jay said:
os is XP pro, so u reckon run the ram cas 2.0 the 3.3.5, also ut2003 runs
fine as does q3 for what i can gather maxpayne2, doom3 alpha, halo seems to
be effected
no card is uses normal bios ,
Click to expand...

If you're only having crashes with these games and not others, its most
likey driver & software issues and not HW. However, putting Ram at spec (or
using SPD to set ram timings) would be one easy step to eliminate bad bios
settings.

If you have v.1. of MaxPayne2 there are know problems with crashing which
are addressed in later patches. Halo also has some known issues/patch fixes
described by Microsoft with both ATI and VIA chipsets. Try their websites.
Doom3 is, well, alpha, can't help ya.

Best-0-luck,
mikey
 
J

Jay

this appears to be affecting max payne 2 mainly are there any known issues
with this game and ATI cards, Call of Duty is effected as well.. and doom3
alpha thingy, but quake3 seems to be uneffected.

b
 
M

mikey

Oops, did't see your post stating your mobo. Your using an Nvidia chipset.
No VIA issues for you.
mikey
 

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