I can't get a Windows 98 laptop to configure in my network.

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Guest

I am trying to set up my home network. The main computer is running WinXP
SP2 and is hardwired to my new router. My laptop is running Windows 98SE and
is connected wirelessly to the router. Both computers communicate with the
router and are identified in the router's configuration screen. But, I am
having trouble setting up the network neighborhood utility on the Win98
laptop. From what I'm told, you have to run the WinXP disk on the Windows 98
computer and install the XP networking components. This will supposedly
allow compatibility between the XP system and the 98 system. I did that on
the laptop and restarted when it prompted me to. When it boots back up, a
blue screen appears telling me a "fatal exception has occured at
0028:C14AE9CD in VXD VSERVER(01) + 00004D7D." I hit any key and it finished
booting up. But my network neighborhood utility is not configured and as a
result, the laptop will not show up in the network places. Again though, it
is communicating with the router. I know that's not the problem. I can't
figure out how to configure the network utility on my laptop. I only have
175mB of space left on my C drive in the laptop. Does the XP disk require
more space than that to install the network utilities?

Any advice?
 
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Steve Winograd [MVP]

I am trying to set up my home network. The main computer is running WinXP
SP2 and is hardwired to my new router. My laptop is running Windows 98SE and
is connected wirelessly to the router. Both computers communicate with the
router and are identified in the router's configuration screen. But, I am
having trouble setting up the network neighborhood utility on the Win98
laptop. From what I'm told, you have to run the WinXP disk on the Windows 98
computer and install the XP networking components. This will supposedly
allow compatibility between the XP system and the 98 system. I did that on
the laptop and restarted when it prompted me to. When it boots back up, a
blue screen appears telling me a "fatal exception has occured at
0028:C14AE9CD in VXD VSERVER(01) + 00004D7D." I hit any key and it finished
booting up. But my network neighborhood utility is not configured and as a
result, the laptop will not show up in the network places. Again though, it
is communicating with the router. I know that's not the problem. I can't
figure out how to configure the network utility on my laptop. I only have
175mB of space left on my C drive in the laptop. Does the XP disk require
more space than that to install the network utilities?

Any advice?

XP's Network Setup Wizard sometimes fails to run on other computers.
Fortunately, you don't have to run it on other computers, even though
XP tells you to do it. You can make the network settings on the
Windows 98SE computer manually.

On Windows 98SE:

1. Go to Control Panel | Network and remove all network components
except for the Ethernet adapter and Dial-Up Adapter. Ignore any
messages about the network being incomplete.

2. Reboot.

3. Go to Control Panel | Network and add these network components:

a. Client for Microsoft Networks
b. TCP/IP
c. File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks

4. Click the Identification tab, and specify computer and workgroup
names.

5. Reboot.

6. Right-click and share any desired disks, folders, and printers.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
 
G

Guest

Steve,

Thanks for your input. But, it didn't seem to work. I did exactly as you
said and when I double click my network neighborhood icon on the desktop, a
pop up window comes up and says "network is unaccessible." And my network
neighborhood icon in the task bar says "Internet Gateway: Unconfigured." Any
other input?

At the end of your last reply, you said "right click and share any desired
files, printers, etc." What am I right clicking on??

M Ridzon
 
S

Steve Winograd [MVP]

Steve,

Thanks for your input. But, it didn't seem to work. I did exactly as you
said and when I double click my network neighborhood icon on the desktop, a
pop up window comes up and says "network is unaccessible." And my network
neighborhood icon in the task bar says "Internet Gateway: Unconfigured." Any
other input?

You're welcome.

Here are two common reasons for the network being inaccessible in
Windows 98:

1. The network settings are configured for user-level access control,
which isn't available in a workgroup network. Go to Control Panel |
Network, click the Access Control tab, and make sure that share-level
access control is selected.

2. The user isn't logged on. Is there a logon prompt when Windows 98
starts? If so, don't cancel it. Complete the logon by entering a
user name and, optionally, a password. If there's no logon prompt,
click Start | Log Off and log back on. If that makes network
accessible, the most likely fix is to go to this registry key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Network\Real Mode Net

and delete the value named "AutoLogon", as shown here:

http://www.wown.com/j_helmig/nologon.htm#AutoLogon
At the end of your last reply, you said "right click and share any desired
files, printers, etc." What am I right clicking on??

Browse to a disk or folder using My Computer, Windows Explorer, etc,
right-click the disk or folder, click "Sharing", and specify the share
name, access type, and (if desired) passwords.

Browse to a printer in the Printer folder, click "Sharing", and
specify a share name.
--
Best Wishes,
Steve Winograd, MS-MVP (Windows Networking)

Please post any reply as a follow-up message in the news group
for everyone to see. I'm sorry, but I don't answer questions
addressed directly to me in E-mail or news groups.

Microsoft Most Valuable Professional Program
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com
 
G

Guest

Steve,

Still no luck! Share-level access control is selected. I checked that. I
do have a logon prompt for "Microsoft Networking" when I boot up. I did not
cancel it. I entered a user name and password. When it finished booting up,
I still had "Internet Gateway: Unconfigured" on the network neighborhood icon
in the taskbar.

I was reading through some other posts and tried this "browser confliction"
thing. I diabled the browser master on the 98SE system. No dice!!

I went into the Network Places on the XP system, right clicked and searched
for the 98SE laptop. The XP detected it in the "Network Places/Entire
Network/Microsoft Windows Network/Home" folder. What does that mean? I
tried to access the laptop from there, but it said "Laptop is not accessible."

Any input?

M Ridzon
 
G

Guest

Have you had any luck with this? I'm having the exact same problem with my
millenium machine.

~Orynthion
 
G

Guest

Orynthion,

Yes, I finally got my two computers talking to each other. I'll try and
help any way I can. My problem was a firewall in place, that I had to
disable. I had a program called "Zone Alarm" on both of my computers. That
program is a firewall program and I had to go into it and "allow" the
computers to get through the firewalls. I also found out the my XP system
had its Windows firewall up and running, so that also had to be set to "allow
file and printer sharing" so that they could talk to each other. That ended
up being my dilemma.

Where do you stand with your network? What have you done so far? What
systems are you trying to network together?

M Ridzon
 
G

Guest

I'm still not able to connect. I've made sure all network settings are
correct as Steve had suggested to you. I even turned off protocals, TCI-IPs,
and adapters then reinstalled them. I've also turned off ZoneAlarm and the
Windows XP security.
The workgroup name is the same on both machines.

Each computer is able to connect the internet through the router but neither
one is able to speak to the other.

I am completely baffled at this point.
 
G

Guest

I take it that you have two systems that you are trying to network together,
an XP system and Windows Millenium. Is that correct? This is
important....have you run the Windows XP disk on both computers to set up the
networking software?? If so.....

Have you tried going into your MS-DOS prompt on both computers and "pinging"
each other and the router to see if the see each other at all. You need to
know the IP addresses of both computers to do this? You can find this within
your router configuration screen somewhere. I really can't tell you where
exactly because all routers are different. To do this ping, go into your
start menu and find your "MS-DOS prompt" somewhere. I think it's under the
programs folder or accessories folder. Open it up. It should say something
like "C:\WINDOWS>" Type in "ping <type network IP address of other computer
here> For example, if I was on my XP system and my Millenium system had an
IP address of 192.168.0.155 in the network, I would type "ping 192.168.0.155"
Let it do its thing and see what the results are. If successful, it should
say that all packets sent were also received and none were lost. If they
"see" each other, then we'll go from there.

Let me know what you come up with.

M Ridzon
 
G

Guest

You are correct in that one is an XP system and the other is Millenium. I
didn't run the disk on the XP system. I did run it on the Millenium system,
but I get an error message after clicking *next* following the page for
specifying the workgroup name. The error message reads:

An error has occured. To continue:

Press Enter to return to Windows, or

Press CTRL+ALT+DEL to restart your computer. If you do this, you will lose
any unsaved information in all open applications.

File Name: VSERVER(01) + 00004D7D Error: OE : 0028 : D45A7E8D


I have tried to ping the computers. Neither computer can see the other one.
Both computers are connect via D-Link Router. Each computer is able to
access the internet.

I do have ZoneAlarm on the Millenium computer, but it has been turned off
while trying to figure this out. The Windows firewall on the XP machine has
also been turned off.
 
G

Guest

Ah, the proverbial blue screen of death!! I had this same problem occur on
my 98 laptop with the same error message. Go to the link below. It
addresses the problem. I had to change a file extension in my laptop to get
the XP disk to take and allow me to load the XP network software onto the 98
system. Your procedures on the ME system are a little different. But
hopefully, it will work and allow you to run that XP disk on the ME system.
Try it and see what happens. Make sure and run the disk on the XP system as
well. Insert the disk, click on "perform additional tasks" and then click on
"set up home or small office network." Follow the screen prompts from there.


http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;q318008

If this doesn't completely fix it, then we will have at least made some
headway. Try it and let me know what you come up with. I believe the fact
that they can both access the internet is independant of getting them to
physically talk to each other. Although, it does at least tell us that the
router sees them both. That's good!

M Ridzon
 
G

Guest

I went to the link you provided and what it told me to. During the restart I
got another blue screen. Here is the message.

^^^^^^^^^
There is a problem with a system file. Windows might not be able to run
correctly. You might be able to fix this problem by running System Restore.
If this does not fix the problem, try reinstalling Windows.

VxD dynamic link call: VSDATA95(01) + 0002FC3C to "0028", service 800A.

To continue running Windows, choose Yes. Be aware that your computer might
become unstable.

To quit Windows, choose No. You will lose any unsaved information. Do you
want to continue running Windows?

Press Y or Yes or N for No
^^^^^^^^^

I recently had problems with a %1 from %2 error that I fixed by renaming and
deleting the _RESTORE folder. I'm guessing that System Restore will not work.

What now?
 
G

Guest

I performed a system restore. I am leary of performing the steps outlined on
the linked page again. Any idea why I received the message I did?
 
G

Guest

Hmmmm......<baffled look on my face.> I didn't expect that to happen. Let
me do some research on the error that you received and I'll get back to you.

Talk soon,
M Ridzon
 
G

Guest

I did a little research on the error message that you now get. Take a look
at this link. There's two pages in there you can look at. It looks like it
might have something to do with Zone Alarm. I'll be honest though, I'm not
100% sure. I've never encountered this problem and I'm just taking a shot in
the dark here. I suppose it's worth a shot. Let me know if you have any
success. It's kind of important that we get that XP software to load on the
ME system, so that's why we have to try and get through this other garbage.

http://search.microsoft.com/search/results.aspx?view=en-us&st=b&na=82&qu=VSDATA95(01)+

M Ridzon
 

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