HP-2575/2610 color cartridges?

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Inkjet101

I have an HP-2575 printer. It came with a #95 color cartridge. My friend
has the HP-2610 which can use either a #95 or #97 color cartridge. The
#97 holds twice as much ink as the #95. Could I use the #97 in my 2575?

Thanks
 
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Bob Headrick

Inkjet101 said:
I have an HP-2575 printer. It came with a #95 color cartridge. My friend
has the HP-2610 which can use either a #95 or #97 color cartridge. The #97
holds twice as much ink as the #95. Could I use the #97 in my 2575?

Sorry, no. The Photosmart 2575 uses the #93 or #95 cartridges.

Regards,
Bob Headrick, MS MVP Printing/Imaging
 
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Inkjet101

Bob said:
Sorry, no. The Photosmart 2575 uses the #93 or #95 cartridges.

Regards,
Bob Headrick, MS MVP Printing/Imaging

The #95 and #97 look the same physically. Why can the 2610 printer use
either cartridge while the 2575 can't use the #97? Is there some
internal difference in these cartridges?
 
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Andrew Rossmann

The #95 and #97 look the same physically. Why can the 2610 printer use
either cartridge while the 2575 can't use the #97? Is there some
internal difference in these cartridges?

This seems like the old #45/#15 and #78/#17 scam. The two are physically
identical, but there is a unique ID code in each the printer can read so
it knows the initial capacity (and so it knows it's a new cartridge.)
Some bottom-end printers are coded to ONLY accept the low-capacity
cartridges.
 
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Inkjet101

Andrew said:
This seems like the old #45/#15 and #78/#17 scam. The two are physically
identical, but there is a unique ID code in each the printer can read so
it knows the initial capacity (and so it knows it's a new cartridge.)
Some bottom-end printers are coded to ONLY accept the low-capacity
cartridges.

If that's the case, the #97 cartridge should still work in the 2575
printer but it may not provide any ink level information through the
software. This is what happens when you refill the HP cartridges for
both of these printers.
 
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Bob Headrick

Inkjet101 said:
Andrew said:
If that's the case, the #97 cartridge should still work in the 2575
printer but it may not provide any ink level information through the
software. This is what happens when you refill the HP cartridges for both
of these printers.

No, the printer is designed to check what cartridges are installed and only
operate with those it expects. The #97 will not operate in the 2575.

Regards,
Bob Headrick, MS MVP Printing/Imaging
 
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Inkjet101

Bob said:
Andrew said:
No, the printer is designed to check what cartridges are installed and
only operate with those it expects. The #97 will not operate in the 2575.

Regards,
Bob Headrick, MS MVP Printing/Imaging

So the question is, why did HP design the software in the 2575 to not
accept the #97 cartridge when there is no technical (physical) reason
why it can't? The 2610 doesn't have this limitation. It will accept
either the #95 or #97 and it's virtually identical to the 2575, except
for the fax feature.
It's interesting to note that at least one commercial refiller has found
a way to reset the chips in both of these HP cartridges so their
respective printers will recognize the cartridge as being full again. I
wonder if they could change it so the 2575 would accept the #97? Are
there any software/firmware 'hacks' for making an HP printer accept
cartridges that it was not intended to use?
 
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Andrew Rossmann

So the question is, why did HP design the software in the 2575 to not
accept the #97 cartridge when there is no technical (physical) reason
why it can't? The 2610 doesn't have this limitation. It will accept
either the #95 or #97 and it's virtually identical to the 2575, except
for the fax feature.
It's interesting to note that at least one commercial refiller has found
a way to reset the chips in both of these HP cartridges so their
respective printers will recognize the cartridge as being full again. I
wonder if they could change it so the 2575 would accept the #97? Are
there any software/firmware 'hacks' for making an HP printer accept
cartridges that it was not intended to use?

It's all about money. You buy a cheap printer, they will force you to
use the low-capacity cartridges, which costs more in the long run. If
you print alot, you should buy a higher-end printer, and carefully
research the supplies required.

As mentioned earlier, each cartridge has a unique ID code. Part of the
code identifies the cartridge model. I don't know if the #9x cartridges
have a real chip in them, or just pads tied together in a unique
pattern. For the #45/#15, people found covering certain pads let you use
a #45 in a printer that otherwise only accepted the #15, but it also
blocked the signal to some nozzles, resulting in streaky outputs.
 

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