How to turn off "You need permission to delete this folder" annoyance

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Ric

Is it possible to turn off the ridiculous annoyance that stops me deleting
folders from my own computer? I am fed up with having to reboot in safe mode
to delete folders. This is such a stupid idea by Microsoft.

Yes, I have already turned off that stupid UAC crap (or whatever it was
called).
 
Ric said:
Is it possible to turn off the ridiculous annoyance that stops me
deleting folders from my own computer? I am fed up with having to reboot
in safe mode to delete folders. This is such a stupid idea by Microsoft.

Yes, I have already turned off that stupid UAC crap (or whatever it was
called).
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It is an annoyance and I found out from experience that when you disable
UAC you will not be able to delete anything, period! Unless you go into
safe mode which is twice the trouble as you said . UAC needs to be
enabled to allow you to work on your files and folders. I also assume
this to be the case if the programs were installed with UAC enabled. I
have not tried installing programs with UAC disabled to see what would
happen if I tried to delete a file relative to that install. Still a
learning process I guess


UAC is about the worst thing I have come across on Vista

Bill
 
William said:
< chop > It is an annoyance and I found out from experience that when you
disable UAC you will not be able to delete anything, period! Unless you go
into safe mode which is twice the trouble as you said . UAC needs to be
enabled to allow you to work on your files and folders. I also assume this
to be the case if the programs were installed with UAC enabled. I have not
tried installing programs with UAC disabled to see what would happen if I
tried to delete a file relative to that install. Still a learning process I
guess


UAC is about the worst thing I have come across on Vista

Bill
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Huh? That definitely is not the case. One can work with files [delete, copy,
move, create etc.] with UAC turned OFF.

Saucy
 
Saucy said:
William said:
< chop > It is an annoyance and I found out from experience that when
you disable UAC you will not be able to delete anything, period!
Unless you go into safe mode which is twice the trouble as you said .
UAC needs to be enabled to allow you to work on your files and
folders. I also assume this to be the case if the programs were
installed with UAC enabled. I have not tried installing programs with
UAC disabled to see what would happen if I tried to delete a file
relative to that install. Still a learning process I guess


UAC is about the worst thing I have come across on Vista

Bill
Click to expand...


Huh? That definitely is not the case. One can work with files [delete,
copy, move, create etc.] with UAC turned OFF.

Saucy
Click to expand...


I should clarify that I could copy and move, but delete was impossible
once UAC was disabled. I tried with a ton of different files and folders
and no luck. With UAC enabled I was able to delete again. Thats my
experience

Bill
 
Saucy said:
William said:
Saucy said:
< chop > It is an annoyance and I found out from experience that
when you disable UAC you will not be able to delete anything,
period! Unless you go into safe mode which is twice the trouble as
you said . UAC needs to be enabled to allow you to work on your
files and folders. I also assume this to be the case if the programs
were installed with UAC enabled. I have not tried installing
programs with UAC disabled to see what would happen if I tried to
delete a file relative to that install. Still a learning process I
guess


UAC is about the worst thing I have come across on Vista

Bill


Huh? That definitely is not the case. One can work with files
[delete, copy, move, create etc.] with UAC turned OFF.

Saucy
Click to expand...


I should clarify that I could copy and move, but delete was impossible
once UAC was disabled. I tried with a ton of different files and
folders and no luck. With UAC enabled I was able to delete again.
Thats my experience

Bill
Click to expand...


Then something was misconfigured on your system. One can delete a
file(s) or a folder(s) with UAC OFF.

Saucy
Click to expand...


Out the box, new never messed with anything...so I have no idea..
I assume you have tried it?
Bill
 
William said:
Saucy said:
William said:
< chop > It is an annoyance and I found out from experience that when
you disable UAC you will not be able to delete anything, period! Unless
you go into safe mode which is twice the trouble as you said . UAC needs
to be enabled to allow you to work on your files and folders. I also
assume this to be the case if the programs were installed with UAC
enabled. I have not tried installing programs with UAC disabled to see
what would happen if I tried to delete a file relative to that install.
Still a learning process I guess


UAC is about the worst thing I have come across on Vista

Bill
Click to expand...


Huh? That definitely is not the case. One can work with files [delete,
copy, move, create etc.] with UAC turned OFF.

Saucy
Click to expand...


I should clarify that I could copy and move, but delete was impossible
once UAC was disabled. I tried with a ton of different files and folders
and no luck. With UAC enabled I was able to delete again. Thats my
experience

Bill
Click to expand...


Then something was misconfigured on your system. One can delete a file(s) or
a folder(s) with UAC OFF.

Saucy
 
William said:
Saucy said:
William said:
Saucy wrote:
< chop > It is an annoyance and I found out from experience that when
you disable UAC you will not be able to delete anything, period!
Unless you go into safe mode which is twice the trouble as you said .
UAC needs to be enabled to allow you to work on your files and
folders. I also assume this to be the case if the programs were
installed with UAC enabled. I have not tried installing programs with
UAC disabled to see what would happen if I tried to delete a file
relative to that install. Still a learning process I guess


UAC is about the worst thing I have come across on Vista

Bill


Huh? That definitely is not the case. One can work with files [delete,
copy, move, create etc.] with UAC turned OFF.

Saucy


I should clarify that I could copy and move, but delete was impossible
once UAC was disabled. I tried with a ton of different files and folders
and no luck. With UAC enabled I was able to delete again. Thats my
experience

Bill
Click to expand...


Then something was misconfigured on your system. One can delete a file(s)
or a folder(s) with UAC OFF.

Saucy
Click to expand...


Out the box, new never messed with anything...so I have no idea..
I assume you have tried it?
Bill
Click to expand...


Yup. I often have UAC off and I do a lot of file and folder manipulation.
You can work with files with UAC off. Was it a particular folder you tried
to delete? There are a few NTFS junction points that appear like shortcuts
or folders that don't delete. They are there to provide backward
compatibility - for older programs with hardcoded strings to system folders.
But otherwise you should be able to create, delete etc. files and folder
with UAC either ON or OFF.

[[NTFS junction point - Wikipedia]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS_junction_point

Saucy
 
Saucy said:
William said:
Saucy said:
Saucy wrote:
< chop > It is an annoyance and I found out from experience that
when you disable UAC you will not be able to delete anything,
period! Unless you go into safe mode which is twice the trouble as
you said . UAC needs to be enabled to allow you to work on your
files and folders. I also assume this to be the case if the
programs were installed with UAC enabled. I have not tried
installing programs with UAC disabled to see what would happen if
I tried to delete a file relative to that install. Still a
learning process I guess


UAC is about the worst thing I have come across on Vista

Bill


Huh? That definitely is not the case. One can work with files
[delete, copy, move, create etc.] with UAC turned OFF.

Saucy


I should clarify that I could copy and move, but delete was
impossible once UAC was disabled. I tried with a ton of different
files and folders and no luck. With UAC enabled I was able to delete
again. Thats my experience

Bill


Then something was misconfigured on your system. One can delete a
file(s) or a folder(s) with UAC OFF.

Saucy
Click to expand...


Out the box, new never messed with anything...so I have no idea..
I assume you have tried it?
Bill
Click to expand...


Yup. I often have UAC off and I do a lot of file and folder
manipulation. You can work with files with UAC off. Was it a particular
folder you tried to delete? There are a few NTFS junction points that
appear like shortcuts or folders that don't delete. They are there to
provide backward compatibility - for older programs with hardcoded
strings to system folders. But otherwise you should be able to create,
delete etc. files and folder with UAC either ON or OFF.

[[NTFS junction point - Wikipedia]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS_junction_point

Saucy
Click to expand...

It was a music media player that I had installed a week or so ago and
was trying to upgrade it. During the upgrade process I kept getting
write permission need to replace certain files. After pulling my hair
out with resetting all user and admin rights and ownership, nothing
would work. So I decided I would uninstall the program and then do a
fresh install. After the uninstall some files were left back which I
tried to manually delete. No luck. Would not do it. No matter where I
moved the files. I turned on back UAC and it worked. Hence my reply

I can try again to see if it was only that program or to what extent
other files may be affected by UAC

If its related to the junction point issue how can I tell with regard to
that program. Also the program is a vista release so backward
compatibility does not appear or should not be an issue

Bill
 
William said:
Saucy said:
< chop > It is an annoyance and I found out from experience that when
you disable UAC you will not be able to delete anything, period! Unless
you go into safe mode which is twice the trouble as you said . UAC needs
to be enabled to allow you to work on your files and folders. I also
assume this to be the case if the programs were installed with UAC
enabled. I have not tried installing programs with UAC disabled to see
what would happen if I tried to delete a file relative to that install.
Still a learning process I guess


UAC is about the worst thing I have come across on Vista

Bill


Huh? That definitely is not the case. One can work with files [delete,
copy, move, create etc.] with UAC turned OFF.

Saucy
Click to expand...


I should clarify that I could copy and move, but delete was impossible
once UAC was disabled. I tried with a ton of different files and folders
and no luck. With UAC enabled I was able to delete again. Thats my
experience

Bill
Click to expand...


Then something was misconfigured on your system. One can delete a file(s) or
a folder(s) with UAC OFF.

Saucy
Click to expand...

Yes, but the point is Vista internally is misconfigured, commonly
referred to has BUGGY.

As I said just yesterday I wanted to disable the annoying UAC nag
screen when you elevate an application. While the Microsoft page gives
bum advice that's misleading in of itself and does no such thing,
worse after following the steps suggested to the letter Vista now
speaks out of both sides of it's mouth at once. At boot it constantly
nags I better turn UAC on because it says it is off, yet when I double
check in User Accounts in Control Panel it says UAC IS in fact on.

That is just one of many, many sloppy coding mistakes where the blame
is squarely on the shoulders of the Boys of Redmond. Of course fanboys
will do one of two things. Try to blame it on user error or just say
so what, all software has bugs. Which one will you pick?
 
It is an annoyance and I found out from experience that when you disable
UAC you will not be able to delete anything, period! Unless you go into
safe mode which is twice the trouble as you said . UAC needs to be
enabled to allow you to work on your files and folders. I also assume
this to be the case if the programs were installed with UAC enabled. I
have not tried installing programs with UAC disabled to see what would
happen if I tried to delete a file relative to that install. Still a
learning process I guess


UAC is about the worst thing I have come across on Vista
Click to expand...

You can delete and work on files with UAC off without going to safe
mode. Maybe you had a file access issue. If Vista thinks another
process or application has some file open (even if it isn't) or even
if the folder the file is in is open (even if it isn't) it may refuse
to let you work on the file and not be able to delete it, rename it,
move it, etc..

In my experiences Vista also has the odd habit of challenging some
files even in the same folder where it won't challenge others
regardless what the ownership and permissions are. So I've seen a
situation where I was trying to delete 100 files and Vista would
delete the first 40 then nag it couldn't delete the 41st one.

In true Microsoft stupidity instead of simply skipping over the file
it had trouble with and resuming the job, it simply stops at that
point forcing the user to start over from where he left off
remembering to not include the file Vista didn't want to delete.
 
William said:
Saucy said:
William said:
Saucy wrote:
Saucy wrote:
< chop > It is an annoyance and I found out from experience that
when you disable UAC you will not be able to delete anything,
period! Unless you go into safe mode which is twice the trouble as
you said . UAC needs to be enabled to allow you to work on your
files and folders. I also assume this to be the case if the programs
were installed with UAC enabled. I have not tried installing
programs with UAC disabled to see what would happen if I tried to
delete a file relative to that install. Still a learning process I
guess


UAC is about the worst thing I have come across on Vista

Bill


Huh? That definitely is not the case. One can work with files
[delete, copy, move, create etc.] with UAC turned OFF.

Saucy


I should clarify that I could copy and move, but delete was impossible
once UAC was disabled. I tried with a ton of different files and
folders and no luck. With UAC enabled I was able to delete again.
Thats my experience

Bill


Then something was misconfigured on your system. One can delete a
file(s) or a folder(s) with UAC OFF.

Saucy


Out the box, new never messed with anything...so I have no idea..
I assume you have tried it?
Bill
Click to expand...


Yup. I often have UAC off and I do a lot of file and folder manipulation.
You can work with files with UAC off. Was it a particular folder you
tried to delete? There are a few NTFS junction points that appear like
shortcuts or folders that don't delete. They are there to provide
backward compatibility - for older programs with hardcoded strings to
system folders. But otherwise you should be able to create, delete etc.
files and folder with UAC either ON or OFF.

[[NTFS junction point - Wikipedia]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS_junction_point

Saucy
Click to expand...

It was a music media player that I had installed a week or so ago and was
trying to upgrade it. During the upgrade process I kept getting write
permission need to replace certain files. After pulling my hair out with
resetting all user and admin rights and ownership, nothing would work. So
I decided I would uninstall the program and then do a fresh install. After
the uninstall some files were left back which I tried to manually delete.
No luck. Would not do it. No matter where I moved the files. I turned on
back UAC and it worked. Hence my reply

I can try again to see if it was only that program or to what extent other
files may be affected by UAC

If its related to the junction point issue how can I tell with regard to
that program. Also the program is a vista release so backward
compatibility does not appear or should not be an issue

Bill
Click to expand...


Hi, yeah, it's probably a file access issue .. look at Dave's reply for
links on resolving such a thing. Some of these issues will evaporate with
the upcoming SP1, but that's still a few months away.

Saucy

Saucy
 
Saucy said:
William said:
Saucy said:
Saucy wrote:
Saucy wrote:
< chop > It is an annoyance and I found out from experience that
when you disable UAC you will not be able to delete anything,
period! Unless you go into safe mode which is twice the trouble
as you said . UAC needs to be enabled to allow you to work on
your files and folders. I also assume this to be the case if the
programs were installed with UAC enabled. I have not tried
installing programs with UAC disabled to see what would happen
if I tried to delete a file relative to that install. Still a
learning process I guess


UAC is about the worst thing I have come across on Vista

Bill


Huh? That definitely is not the case. One can work with files
[delete, copy, move, create etc.] with UAC turned OFF.

Saucy


I should clarify that I could copy and move, but delete was
impossible once UAC was disabled. I tried with a ton of different
files and folders and no luck. With UAC enabled I was able to
delete again. Thats my experience

Bill


Then something was misconfigured on your system. One can delete a
file(s) or a folder(s) with UAC OFF.

Saucy


Out the box, new never messed with anything...so I have no idea..
I assume you have tried it?
Bill


Yup. I often have UAC off and I do a lot of file and folder
manipulation. You can work with files with UAC off. Was it a
particular folder you tried to delete? There are a few NTFS junction
points that appear like shortcuts or folders that don't delete. They
are there to provide backward compatibility - for older programs with
hardcoded strings to system folders. But otherwise you should be able
to create, delete etc. files and folder with UAC either ON or OFF.

[[NTFS junction point - Wikipedia]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS_junction_point

Saucy
Click to expand...

It was a music media player that I had installed a week or so ago and
was trying to upgrade it. During the upgrade process I kept getting
write permission need to replace certain files. After pulling my hair
out with resetting all user and admin rights and ownership, nothing
would work. So I decided I would uninstall the program and then do a
fresh install. After the uninstall some files were left back which I
tried to manually delete. No luck. Would not do it. No matter where I
moved the files. I turned on back UAC and it worked. Hence my reply

I can try again to see if it was only that program or to what extent
other files may be affected by UAC

If its related to the junction point issue how can I tell with regard
to that program. Also the program is a vista release so backward
compatibility does not appear or should not be an issue

Bill
Click to expand...


Hi, yeah, it's probably a file access issue .. look at Dave's reply for
links on resolving such a thing. Some of these issues will evaporate
with the upcoming SP1, but that's still a few months away.

Saucy

Saucy
Click to expand...


Thanks
Bill
 
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