How to listen live and record it

[micky]

Every Sunday I listen to WAMU.org 88.1 The Big Broadcast, from 7 to
11.

This week I have to be somewhere at 8PM. This will happen again next
week, so if I don't fix it tonight, I have another week to try.

Is there a way to listen live to the live stream, and record it?

Windows Media Player makes it pretty easy to listen live**.

Real Player says
"Record
While you're playing recordable media in RealPlayer, click the
Record button on the Player Control bar. "

So that seems to be the problem***. I'm playing the stream, but not
IN RealPlayer. I've never been able to figure out how to play Listen
Live in Real Player. Or in WinAmp, or VLS (sp?)
*** (I click on Record and the red record button blinks, but the
progress pointer doesn't move

I've only been able to do it in WMP, and there I don't know how to
record anything except to rip from a CD. WMP Help doesn't say how to
do more.

Thanks

**I've been doing it for 10+ years. I have a second radio station
saved also, and can switch from one station to another using Next
Track and Previous Track. (Sometimes the webpage changes the url of
the stream, but I've been able to find it again. But I don't know how
to insert it in any player but WMP.)

 

[Paul in Houston TX]

Every Sunday I listen to WAMU.org 88.1 The Big Broadcast, from 7 to
11.

This week I have to be somewhere at 8PM. This will happen again next
week, so if I don't fix it tonight, I have another week to try.

Is there a way to listen live to the live stream, and record it?

Windows Media Player makes it pretty easy to listen live**.

Real Player says
"Record
While you're playing recordable media in RealPlayer, click the
Record button on the Player Control bar. "

So that seems to be the problem***. I'm playing the stream, but not
IN RealPlayer. I've never been able to figure out how to play Listen
Live in Real Player. Or in WinAmp, or VLS (sp?)
*** (I click on Record and the red record button blinks, but the
progress pointer doesn't move

I've only been able to do it in WMP, and there I don't know how to
record anything except to rip from a CD. WMP Help doesn't say how to
do more.

Thanks

**I've been doing it for 10+ years. I have a second radio station
saved also, and can switch from one station to another using Next
Track and Previous Track. (Sometimes the webpage changes the url of
the stream, but I've been able to find it again. But I don't know how
to insert it in any player but WMP.)

Audacity can do that.
Winamp can do it with Stream Ripper plugin.
I have a very, very low opinion of RP.

 

[Paul]

Audacity can do that.
Winamp can do it with Stream Ripper plugin.
I have a very, very low opinion of RP.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audacity_(audio_editor)

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

In Audacity, you could try Stereo Mix. Set the level for Stereo Mix, so
the input is enabled. Using the control in Audacity, should enable it,
but you can look in your custom sound control panel for it as well. Right
now, my Microphone is enabled in the Sound control, so I'm not ready to go yet.
Stereo Mix is also known as "What You Hear" on some computers. It's supposed
to be a recording input, based on the current sound output (on the analog
output). If you were sending your sound over HDMI, I don't think my
particular setup would work. Mine is pure analog, green 1/8" connector to stereo
speakers etc.

http://imageshack.us/a/img855/3866/wnf.gif

Audacity also has a VU meter, and when you've got signal, it should be
reflected in the VU meter. The VU meter isn't enabled by default, and
the control for it is in the same area as the selection for Stereo Mix.

In Audacity Preferences, in the Directories item, there is a tick box
for "RAM Recording". If you were to use that, then the recording
will be limited in duration, by the total system RAM. If you don't use it,
I think Audacity makes recordings to disk. And if stored as a project,
it uses an internal format, using small files (maybe one megabyte a piece).
So a gigabyte of sound recording, becomes a thousand one megabyte files.
That way, it won't have a problem with a FAT32 temporary directory. By
later "Exporting" (File : Export) the recording to another format, that
will make one huge contiguous sound file. But if kept as a Project
of some sort, I think that will stay in the internal format.

Paul

 

[Zanqeutil]

micky schreef:

Every Sunday I listen to WAMU.org 88.1 The Big Broadcast, from 7 to
11.

This week I have to be somewhere at 8PM. This will happen again next
week, so if I don't fix it tonight, I have another week to try.

Is there a way to listen live to the live stream, and record it?

Windows Media Player makes it pretty easy to listen live**.

Real Player says
"Record
While you're playing recordable media in RealPlayer, click the
Record button on the Player Control bar. "

So that seems to be the problem***. I'm playing the stream, but not
IN RealPlayer. I've never been able to figure out how to play Listen
Live in Real Player. Or in WinAmp, or VLS (sp?)
*** (I click on Record and the red record button blinks, but the
progress pointer doesn't move

I've only been able to do it in WMP, and there I don't know how to
record anything except to rip from a CD. WMP Help doesn't say how to
do more.

Thanks

**I've been doing it for 10+ years. I have a second radio station
saved also, and can switch from one station to another using Next
Track and Previous Track. (Sometimes the webpage changes the url of
the stream, but I've been able to find it again. But I don't know how
to insert it in any player but WMP.)

Try RadioMximus, it's free, you can even shedule recordings.
http://www.raimersoft.com/radiomaximus.aspx
There is a portable version (no need to install)

You can add WAMU 88.5 mhz (District of Columbia)
See WAMU 88.5 picture.
http://tinypic.com/r/13ygsnc/5
http://i39.tinypic.com/13ygsnc.jpg

RadioMaximus allows you to listen to and record radio stations from
around the world.

Zanqeutil

 

[micky]

micky schreef:

Try RadioMximus, it's free, you can even shedule recordings.
http://www.raimersoft.com/radiomaximus.aspx
There is a portable version (no need to install)

You can add WAMU 88.5 mhz (District of Columbia)
See WAMU 88.5 picture.
http://tinypic.com/r/13ygsnc/5
http://i39.tinypic.com/13ygsnc.jpg

RadioMaximus allows you to listen to and record radio stations from
around the world.

Zanqeutil

Thanks, and thanks Paul and Paul.

I'm going to try Audacity, Winamp, and RadioMaximus.

It's good to know I'm not the only one who wants to do this.

I know there are a lot of good stations out there, but this is one
I've gotten on actual radios.

Voila, what does Radio Maximus say, "Listen to and record multiple
stations simultaneously". If I start doing that, will I ever finish
listening?

 

[Tim Slattery]

I know there are a lot of good stations out there, but this is one
I've gotten on actual radios.

So have I, but then I live in the Washington, DC area, where they are
located. (Their frequency, by the way, is not 88.1 but 88.5.)

The Big Broadcast is first rate. You should bear in mind that a lot of
what is broadcast there is available on the net. Check the Old Time
Radio Researcher's Group (www.otrr.org).

 

[micky]

Audacity can do that.
Winamp can do it with Stream Ripper plugin.
I have a very, very low opinion of RP.

The big advantage of RP, imo, is that it offers to (and I think does
successfully) record almost anything that is playing on the screen.

For example, my impression is that Youtube has been designed to let
one play a video over and over, but only via youtube. RP lets one
save it and play it, without even being online.

There is a nearby funeral parlor which let's one view the funerals in
their building. Again, no way to save the video, except with Real
Player, afaik.

 

[Metspitzer]

Audacity can do that.
Winamp can do it with Stream Ripper plugin.
I have a very, very low opinion of RP.

I have Itunes installed and I just downloaded Audacity. I want to
just use a spare computer that doesn't even have speakers installed to
record an hour or to from one of the radio stations on Itunes.

I have Itunes playing the radio station.
I push record on Audacity.
I see the needles moving, so I assume it is recording.
I push stop.
I assume I should save the stuff, so I chose....file/save project.
I save the file as test.aup
Now, I assume I need to export that to a mp3 file.
I get a Export file directory to the path where I saved the test.aup,
but that file does not show up as a valid file.
I just enter "test" as the output file.
I get a message that the tracks will be mixed to stereo.
I get lots of options to enter song info Artist name, track title.

I then get .......download lame and taken to a page that looks like
lots of link traps. Any web page that puts so many confusing links
on one page needs to be shot.

That web page is what a call "lame"

Information overload. I am out.

 

[Paul in Houston TX]

The big advantage of RP, imo, is that it offers to (and I think does
successfully) record almost anything that is playing on the screen.

For example, my impression is that Youtube has been designed to let
one play a video over and over, but only via youtube. RP lets one
save it and play it, without even being online.

There is a nearby funeral parlor which let's one view the funerals in
their building. Again, no way to save the video, except with Real
Player, afaik.

Ah.. I see. I never got into videos, just audio / music.
Have not had a TV for over 15 years.
For ripping the music out of a youtube vid I use an online service.

 

[Paul in Houston TX]

On Sun, 23 Jun 2013 17:14:51 -0500, Paul in Houston TX

I have Itunes installed and I just downloaded Audacity. I want to
just use a spare computer that doesn't even have speakers installed to
record an hour or to from one of the radio stations on Itunes.

Oh, sorry, I don't know anything about itunes.

 

[Nil]

I then get .......download lame and taken to a page that looks
like lots of link traps. Any web page that puts so many
confusing links on one page needs to be shot.

That web page is what a call "lame"

Information overload. I am out.

Audacity does not include an MP3 codec, because of license
restrictions. You must download and install it separately. The proper
codec is available where you directed, if you just wouldn't give up so
easily.

You can also export your file as WAV and compress it to MP3 with any
other utility you might have.

 

[Metspitzer]

Audacity does not include an MP3 codec, because of license
restrictions. You must download and install it separately. The proper
codec is available where you directed, if you just wouldn't give up so
easily.

You can also export your file as WAV and compress it to MP3 with any
other utility you might have.

I went to the help page on getting started
file:///C:/Program%20Files/Audacity/help/manual/quick_help.html

import and play an existing audio file
record your voice, guitar, standard turntable or tape deck
record with a USB turntable, tape deck or USB sound card
edit sounds, including applying effects
save or open an Audacity project
export to an MP3 or other audio file
burn to a CD

There doesn't seem to be a record from Itunes option.

I downloaded "Lame" I can now export an mp3, but just starting Itunes
and pressing record doesn't seem to be doing anything.

The mp3 recording is just a hum.

 

[Rasta Robert]

I went to the help page on getting started
file:///C:/Program%20Files/Audacity/help/manual/quick_help.html

import and play an existing audio file
record your voice, guitar, standard turntable or tape deck
record with a USB turntable, tape deck or USB sound card
edit sounds, including applying effects
save or open an Audacity project
export to an MP3 or other audio file
burn to a CD

There doesn't seem to be a record from Itunes option.

I downloaded "Lame" I can now export an mp3, but just starting Itunes
and pressing record doesn't seem to be doing anything.

The mp3 recording is just a hum.

That means that in the selection for recording source in your
OS audio settings (software mixer) is not on Stereo Mix/What You Hear,
which will let you record all the sounds that are playing out from
your sound card (do not forget to disable all system sounds, or
they will get recorded too).
Depending on the format of the internet radio stream, it could be
better to 'rip' the stream, which means write it to disk exactly as
it comes from the station, without any decoding/re-encoding.
This usually works with MP3 and OGG streams, but not with
Windows Media and Real Audio streams.
For 'ripping' you can use Streamripper, available for multiple
operating systems in different forms: CLI, standalone GUI,
Winamp plugin, several front ends for the CLI version ....
http://streamripper.sourceforge.net/

Streamhijacker is a small Windows GUI streamrip application,
wich includes a scheduler:
http://streamhijacker.thomace.com/
http://sourceforge.net/projects/streamhijacker/

VLC Media Player allows you to connect to almost any format
audio and video stream, and can save with or without
conversion on the fly. for multiple OS flavours:
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
http://sourceforge.net/projects/vlc/

Some more ideas and software suggestions:
How to download Real Audio streams and convert Real Audio to MP3
http://swen.antville.org/stories/735413/

 

[Rasta Robert]

That means that in the selection for recording source in your
OS audio settings (software mixer) is not on Stereo Mix/What You Hear,
which will let you record all the sounds that are playing out from
your sound card (do not forget to disable all system sounds, or
they will get recorded too).

to open the recoding mixer:
Run: sndvol32 /record

In a shortcut to open the Recording mixer you can put:
%windir%\system32\sndvol32.exe /record

Another nice small program to record straight to disk,
in uncompressed wav or as mp3, with scheduling ability:
http://messer.aerolit.pl/

 

[micky]

So have I, but then I live in the Washington, DC area, where they are
located. (Their frequency, by the way, is not 88.1 but 88.5.)

Oh, yeah. I actually know that, but I might have confused readers.

The Big Broadcast is first rate. You should bear in mind that a lot of
what is broadcast there is available on the net. Check the Old Time
Radio Researcher's Group (www.otrr.org).

Thanks . Somehow the fact that it is scheduled makes me want it a lot
more.

For example, ME TV, 11.2 in Baltimore, has afaik only sitcoms and
action shows from the 50's, 60's, and a little from the 70's that are
all available for free on Hulu and other places. I've been able to
view them there for a year or two, but didn't bother, and only watched
them after 11.2 began (less than a year ago.)

And I have no desire to make up a play list. I play whatever Pandora
(and before that aol radio) or the Internet Radio section of Windows
Media Player (which I just discovered) Let them choose the list of
songs I hear. Someone pays them to do that

 

[Metspitzer]

to open the recoding mixer:
Run: sndvol32 /record

In a shortcut to open the Recording mixer you can put:
%windir%\system32\sndvol32.exe /record

Another nice small program to record straight to disk,
in uncompressed wav or as mp3, with scheduling ability:
http://messer.aerolit.pl/

I will give that a try.

Thanks

 

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

The big advantage of RP, imo, is that it offers to (and I think does
successfully) record almost anything that is playing on the screen.

As does Total Recorder, and a few others. You have to be careful not to
make any system sounds while recording.

For example, my impression is that Youtube has been designed to let
one play a video over and over, but only via youtube. RP lets one
save it and play it, without even being online.

As do quite a lot of things: I use Firefox with the addon (usually)
DownloadHelper (which I think is available as other than just a Firefox
addon), which just gives you an extra button in the area (I forget what
it's called - a toolbar?) to the left of the URL box, which when
clicked, gives you a range of formats to save in, usually including the
one YouTube is feeding you by default, and when you select one, it asks
you where to save the result, which - like what you describe - can then
be played any time. DownloadHelper works with more than just YouTube.
The other one I use is Easy YouTube Video Downloader, which provides a
button in the YouTube page itself, which when clicked again offers a
list of formats, and when you pick one asks you where to save it. There
are lots of such - both as addons for browsers and separate; they all
work in one of these two ways, i. e. either adding a button to the
browser or to the web page itself.

There is a nearby funeral parlor which let's one view the funerals in
their building. Again, no way to save the video, except with Real
Player, afaik.

There may be privacy/copyright/etc. issues over saving them. (Why would
you want to?)

 

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

In message <[email protected]>, Metspitzer

Now, I assume I need to export that to a mp3 file.
I get a Export file directory to the path where I saved the test.aup,
but that file does not show up as a valid file.
I just enter "test" as the output file.
I get a message that the tracks will be mixed to stereo.
I get lots of options to enter song info Artist name, track title.

I then get .......download lame and taken to a page that looks like
lots of link traps. Any web page that puts so many confusing links
on one page needs to be shot.

That web page is what a call "lame"

Information overload. I am out.

Encoding to .mp3 requires an encoder; due to various copyright/patent
issues, much software - especially free software - doesn't include one
(from what you describe, Audacity is one such). Several of them can use
an external encoder; Lame is the best-known free .mp3 encoder, which
several audio softwares can use.

 

[micky]

As does Total Recorder, and a few others. You have to be careful not to
make any system sounds while recording.

I'll look into it, though I think I'm satified with RP.

As do quite a lot of things: I use Firefox with the addon (usually)
DownloadHelper (which I think is available as other than just a Firefox

I'll look into that too.

addon), which just gives you an extra button in the area (I forget what
it's called - a toolbar?) to the left of the URL box, which when
clicked, gives you a range of formats to save in, usually including the
one YouTube is feeding you by default, and when you select one, it asks
you where to save the result, which - like what you describe - can then
be played any time. DownloadHelper works with more than just YouTube.
The other one I use is Easy YouTube Video Downloader, which provides a
button in the YouTube page itself, which when clicked again offers a
list of formats, and when you pick one asks you where to save it. There
are lots of such - both as addons for browsers and separate; they all
work in one of these two ways, i. e. either adding a button to the
browser or to the web page itself.

There may be privacy/copyright/etc. issues over saving them.

Maybe, but I'm not going to tell them. After the obnoxiious and
illegal way they handled my mother**, I have no respect for them or
their legal rights.

**who they called "Mom" even though they'd never met her. She
wouldn't have like that and neither did I. Though this is not even on
my list of real complaints.

(Why would
you want to?)

It started when their videos could only be played with IE and a friend
with a Mac didnt' have IE. IE for Mac didn't work (it's been years
since it was updated). And he was away a lot of the time and didnt
have time to get to my house and they only provide the videos for a
certain length of time. So I wanted to dl the funeral and save it for
him to see after the time limit. This hasnt' come up again and
probably won't, but it made it to my list of reasons to record a
video.


Actually, like some future funeral, I may never actually want to save
a Youtube video. But I like knowing that I can, just in case.

So I don't have to run around with time running out to find out how to
do so. Paul and Paul answered me about how to record listen live
within an hour of my question, but I'd waited so long, I only had 45
minutes left, and it wasnt' enough and I missed 2 hours of this past
Sunday. Next Sunday I'll be prepared.

 

[Metspitzer]

to open the recoding mixer:
Run: sndvol32 /record

In a shortcut to open the Recording mixer you can put:
%windir%\system32\sndvol32.exe /record

Another nice small program to record straight to disk,
in uncompressed wav or as mp3, with scheduling ability:
http://messer.aerolit.pl/

That works
Thanks everyone