How to install98 - upgrade to XP AND then be able to multiboot 2000/xp

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- Bobb -

I've got several systems now running different OS'es and the following
CD's : Win98 full, Win2000 full, WinXP UPGRADE, WinXP64 full.(and the
OEM CD's which wont help). I bought a new mb and amd athlon64. I would
like to multiboot 2K,XP amd XP64 on this new system and turn off my
other sytems. BUT to get XP, I need to install 98 and then upgrade to
XP. Can I install win98 in C:windows, 2000 in c:Win2k and THEN upgrade
win98 to XP ? I guess my question is - how will xp know that I want to
update 98 and not 2000 ?
After 2000 and XP are installed on C, then I'll install XP64 on D:

Sound like a plan ? Anything to be aware of ?
 
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John John

You don't need to install Windows 98 to install the XP upgrade, when XP
looks for an earlier Windows to upgrade it will tell you, just insert
the Windows 98 or Windows 2000 CD and when it is satisfied that you have
a qualifying product XP will clean install.

There are a couple of "dents" in your plan. For starters you WILL NOT
have both Windows 2000 and Windows XP on "C". The operating systems
each need a dedicated boot partition and only one will be "C". The
others will be on other drive letters. Read here for a primer:

How to create a multiple-boot system in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;306559

Upgrading vs. Clean Installation
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/...Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/prba_dwp_ogli.asp

It might be easier to use a third party boot manager to give each
Windows version a dedicated system partition and have them on their own
"C" drive.

John
 
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philo

- Bobb - said:
I've got several systems now running different OS'es and the following
CD's : Win98 full, Win2000 full, WinXP UPGRADE, WinXP64 full.(and the OEM
CD's which wont help). I bought a new mb and amd athlon64. I would like to
multiboot 2K,XP amd XP64 on this new system and turn off my other sytems.
BUT to get XP, I need to install 98 and then upgrade to XP.

No, you do not have to install win98 first
if you have an XP upgrade cd
and you still have your win98 cd...
all you do is directly install XP by booting from the CD
it will ask you for a qualifying product...
you then put in your win98 cd for verification
 
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- Bobb -

Thanks - I've been reading online and the fact that each OS has its own partition is a nuisance.
Of course, I'd much rather both on C and to install Office, etc into the same folder for both rather than going through installing
everything onto each partition. I have plenty of disks, so maybe I'll just leave 2000 as-is and have each on its own drive and check
into that boot manager program to decide which to boot. Then if I later opt to drop an OS I can just remove it from the boot startup
menu and unplug the drive.
and thanks for saving me the time of installing 98 to get to XP.

Bobb
 
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- Bobb -

Thanks for the info...
This is kinda tough to phrase properly ...

Since I've never upgraded (always been clean install) , I can see that if no OS, it would ask me for a CD to get by the prompt, but
if I were installing XP to D and already had 2000 on C, how would XP know that plan on leaving 2k alone and that I did NOT intend to
use the 2000 license ? Would it ask me by default if I wanted to use to current OS as my authorization and/or allow me to enter
Win98 info ?

Bobb
 
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Dave Patrick

You may consider it a nuisance but it creates a very unstable situation and
is never recommended. Sharing the %programfiles% folder between two
operating systems is also risky and yes you guessed it, never recommended.

--

Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

:
<snip>
| Thanks - I've been reading online and the fact that each OS has its own
partition is a nuisance.
| Of course, I'd much rather both on C and to install Office, etc into the
same folder for both rather than going through installing
| everything onto each partition.
<snip>
 
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- Bobb -

I've been gathering info and what follows is a list of what I plan and a few questions : My comments are " just thinking out
oud" - any input on flow / apps you would recommend ?

New PC Config.txt
Hardware = ASUS An8-e mb, AMD3200+ 1gb memory, DVD/CDRW, Nvidia GeForce video, 160gb IDE disk ( yeah the motherboard supports SATA
but I've got plenty of IDE drives and can't justify buying another.)

1. OS'es to be installed Win2000, XP Pro (upgrade) and Win XP64

Problem: need to install 2000 first , but when I then install xp pro (upgrade version) how to have it prompt me for my win98 license
vs overwriting / assuming upgrade from Win2000 ? Will it do so by default ?
Also:
If I need to connect to Microsoft to "validate / authorize" each license , do it for each OS as I install last app ??
Then do all the updates ? After all these updates - I'll image the drives. To clean up disk space for all of the "$uninstall ..."
files - can I just go to the system folder and delete them. Then the temp folder. Any other references to them ?

Create 4 partitions - one extra partition for Library. Or use multiple drives ?
Since I will mostly be using 2000 or XP (still printer driver issues with xp64) AND I have XP64 already built - can I build new C
drive with 2000 and XP and then use the current xp64 drive (all sw on it was installed as C: ) when I need it ? How to modify MBR to
allow that ? Use a Highpoint/ Promise RAID card to determine boot drive ?
-----------------------------------
2. Updates for IE, OS etc going to be very tedious - download in advance - to CD , HDD ? How ? Otherwise same thing over and over -
reboot do it again etc. *** 12/4 - Article in "MaximumPc" on building the XP CD -- do that before starting any of this. **
http://www.maximumpc.com/2005/01/how_to_slipstre.html
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/pchlp.mspx
http://developer.amd.com/drivers.aspx for other links for 64 bit
------------------------------------
3. Applications ( to be installed on EACH partition (for each OS):
============
Ad-aware/ spybots
Adobe Reader and (?) Full version
ASUS diag sw
Belarc Advisor (download)
MS Money
Logitech optical mouse
Creative "AudioPCI" sound card sw
http://ask.americas.creative.com/wwenglish/general/xp_64_driver_matrix.htm
What audio is onboard ?
Ms Office ( 2000 on Win2000 and 2003 on others)
Export address book from current pc.
- be sure to choose / install Picture Mgr for 2003

Hauppauge WinTV ( or whatever sw for its TV card )
Network cards (Linksys LNE100 and built in - check it first)

Need onboard video Nvidia drivers
http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp
http://www.nvidia.com/object/nforce_nf4_winxp64_amd_6.69.html
( on D:\MICROSOFT\X64\Nvidia now )

Nero 7
Musicmatch (storebought version)
Mozilla Firefox, Thunderbird ( OE for newsgroups - much easier to view " just my unread" replies)
PowerDVD (each DVD has it's own - go with the HP CD/DVD RW)
QuickTime (old version - without itunes)
Realplayer ( still needed ?? )
Winzip
Scanner, printers, camera software
Symantec NAV, or systemworks
ZoneLabs firewall

========================================
 
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Guest

philo, I am at the point where it asks for a win98 cd to qualify, but I do
not have a win98 cd. What, if anything can I do, other than buying a win98
cd?

Why does it have to do this. I have a clean hard drive and a new win2000
install with product key?
 
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Angus Comber

I assume you are using an Upgrade product key. Either give it a Windows 98
CD or buy a full version 2000 product key.
 

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