How to install macros and menus in 2007


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Larry

This branches off from my discussion with Bob Buckland under the subject
line "Custom toolbars and menus in 2007."

Two questions:

1. Let's say I've created macros in 2007. How do I put them in a menu in
the so-called Quick Access Toolbar? I've created "Custom menu" in the QAT,
but don't see how to add anything to it.

2. In Word 97 in a friend's older computer there is a custom menu on the
menu bar with several macros on that menu The macros are in the Normal
template. I've been cracking my head trying to figure how to transfer this
menu with its macros to the QAT in Word 2007 on my friend's new computer.
Could
someone spell out for me the step by step procedure for doing this? Thanks.

As an example of the difficulties I'm running into, Bob Buckland said I
should save Normal.dot under another name and put it in Word 2007. But when
you save a template with a new name, or copy a template and rename the copy,
the project name changes (doesn't it?), in which case the buttons on the
menu will no longer point to the macros in that project, and so the buttons
will not run the macros.










Hi Larry,

The Ribbon collapses if you use Ctrl+F1. You can, using the links in the
previous method, to use RibbonX to customize the ribbon to
remove or replace entire chunks (groups) within the ribbon tabs and to add
new tabs.

Customizations of older Word version built in Word menus and toolbars
usually don't come over in Word 2007.

Custom toolbars and menus of your own can and by default work from the
'Add-in' tabs. You can create 'clones' of the older version
drop down menus or toolbars (hold ctrl key while working in the older
version to create a duplicate of the built in menus, but with
a slightly modified menu or toolbar name, for example File, as File97)

Word 2007 usually retains the button images from the prior edition, but the
button editing/pasting capability of prior versions is
not in the apps in 2007.

Rather than replacing Normal.dotm save a copy of your old Normal.dot under a
new file name and then open it in Word 2007.

The Custom toolbar and Custom menu choices are placeholders on the QAT.
They 'fill' with the contents of the Add-Ins tab when it's
populated, but revert to blank placeholders again if the other document
(Add-In tab content) is taken away.

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Bob,

I don't have 2007 in front of me now, but here's what I'm trying to figure
out:

In my Normal template in Word 97, I have my own custom menus, two of them
are on the regular Menu bar which also includes the usual menus. But also
the built-in menus are highly customized by me, with my own macros stuck in
those menus. For example, I have special macros of my own on the File menu,
the Tools menu, the Window menu, and so on.

The other custom menu (called Extra) is on its own custom toolbar called
Extra which I only display when I need it.

I also have a customized toolbar that I use in place of the Standard and
Formatting toolbars, so that I normally have only one toolbar displayed.

Now, getting back to Word 2007, let's say I replaced the Normal template in
Word 2007 with my own Normal template from Word 97. I click my custom
toolbar in Add-ins and that adds it to the so-called Quick Access toolbar.
Does that mean the custom toolbar is displayed permanently as a toolbar?
How does a toolbar display ON a toolbar? I'll have to check this out. And
how would the button images from Word 97 translate into the Word 2007
environment?

And what about my custom menus that are on the regular menu bar? Since a
menu does not exist by itself--it has to be part of the Menu bar or part of
a toolbar, how can a menu by by itself be loaded in Word 2007?

Suppose I wanted to keep access to all my existing menus, both my custom
menus and the regular menus to which I've added my own macros. How would I
do that? I suppose I'd have to create a new custom toolbar, and copy move
all the menus (regular and custom) from the regular Word 97 Menu bar to that
custom toolbar, and then add that toolbar to Word 2007. Is this possible?
And then I would have my own complete menu bar as a permanent part of Word
2007?



Larry <<
--

Bob Buckland ?:)
MS Office System Products MVP

*Courtesy is not expensive and can pay big dividends*
 
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Cindy M.

Hi Larry,

A new utility has just been released that may help you through your pain. See

http://www.toolbartoggle.com

You can get a 5% discount on any order using the coupon code: MVPCINDY

You can create menus with your macros, as well as buttons. You can create
your own toolbars, and you can float them. Doesn't give you everything we had
prior to Word 2007, but it's an improvement on what comes out of the box...
This branches off from my discussion with Bob Buckland under the subject
line "Custom toolbars and menus in 2007."

Two questions:

1. Let's say I've created macros in 2007. How do I put them in a menu in
the so-called Quick Access Toolbar? I've created "Custom menu" in the QAT,
but don't see how to add anything to it.

2. In Word 97 in a friend's older computer there is a custom menu on the
menu bar with several macros on that menu The macros are in the Normal
template. I've been cracking my head trying to figure how to transfer this
menu with its macros to the QAT in Word 2007 on my friend's new computer.
Could
someone spell out for me the step by step procedure for doing this?

Cindy Meister
INTER-Solutions, Switzerland
http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 17 2005)
http://www.word.mvps.org

This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or
reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :)
 
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Suzanne S. Barnhill

Is this your creation, Cindy?

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

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all may benefit.
 
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Cindy M.

Hi Suzanne,
Is this your creation, Cindy?
No, I'm just a "sounding board" and collaborateuse :) The
company (well person, actually) who did all the work isn't
someone who really uses Office. If anyone tries it out and
has suggestions they can give them to me to pass along for
the planned version 2.0.

-- Cindy Meister
 
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Suzanne S. Barnhill

Thanks. I did see your announcement in the private groups after I posted
that. Between this add-in and Patrick's, it sounds like it may be possible
to satisfy all the diehards. <g>

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

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all may benefit.
 
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Cindy M.

Hi Suzanne,
Between this add-in and Patrick's, it sounds like it may be possible
to satisfy all the diehards. <g>
Pretty much, we hope :) What I, personally, like about this new tool
is being able to put together a task-oriented toolbar that I can
position where I need to have it!

BTW, the newest version now supports adding AutoText entries to
"toolbar buttons", something 2007 won't let you do at all, anymore, as
I recall.

Cindy Meister
INTER-Solutions, Switzerland
http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 17 2005)
http://www.word.mvps.org

This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question
or reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :)
 
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Larry

Thanks, Cindy, I'll check it out.

But does this mean that the difficulties of creating toolbars and menus in
2007 (without the third-party help) are, in practical terms, too large to
overcome?

What a great company Microsoft is. They create such a great "advance" in
their most important consumer product, that now long-time users have to
purchase special tools from _other_ companies just to go on using
Microsoft's product! What lovable people.

Larry
 
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Larry

Cindy,

Are you sure this is the correct address? When I go there, there is a blank
page that says:

Alternate HTML content should be placed here.This content requires the
Macromedia Flash Player.Get Flash

Larry
 
L

Larry

Does this produce allow for the de-activation of the Ribbon (not just its
temporary minimization)?

Another idea: what this product ought to provide would be a menu bar and an
out of the box set of menus similar to those in the earlier versions of
Word. Users would then not have to create everything from scratch if they
wanted to work with regular menus.
 
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Cindy M.

Hi Larry,

I take it the link is working for you, now? It does for me...
Does this produce allow for the de-activation of the Ribbon (not just its
temporary minimization)?
No.

Another idea: what this product ought to provide would be a menu bar and an
out of the box set of menus similar to those in the earlier versions of
Word. Users would then not have to create everything from scratch if they
wanted to work with regular menus.
I'm a bit puzzled about what you're seeing, I must admit. Both
ToolbarToggleLite and the full version have a menu bar with all the 2003 menus
(as long as the commands still function in 2007).

Cindy Meister
INTER-Solutions, Switzerland
http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 17 2005)
http://www.word.mvps.org

This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or
reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :)
 
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Larry

I'm a bit puzzled about what you're seeing, I must admit.

No, I never got that page to load normally. I still see just the blue
background and the one line of text:

"Alternate HTML content should be placed here.This content requires the
Macromedia Flash Player.Get Flash"

Both
ToolbarToggleLite and the full version have a menu bar with all the 2003 menus
(as long as the commands still function in 2007).

That's great. But then how would the older menus integrate with the actual
dialog boxes and tabs of Word 2007? For example. in the older versions of
Word, you go to Tools, Options, and you get a whole bunch of tabs there,
General, Edit, Save, etc. I guess what happens with this ToolbarToggle is
that you go to Tools Options, but that takes you to the same place as going
to the "Office button" and clicking on "Options."

Also, does ToolbarToggle make it possible to turn off the Ribbion completely
if you want (not just minimize it?)
 
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Beth Melton

Have you considered simply staying with Word 97? You've noted several times,
it fits your needs and you don't really need Word 2007. I can't seem to
figure out why you are bothering to upgrade...
 
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Cindy M.

Hi Larry,
"Alternate HTML content should be placed here.This content requires the
Macromedia Flash Player.Get Flash"
apparently, that needs to be installed to view the site. I've notified the
site manager...
Also, does ToolbarToggle make it possible to turn off the Ribbion completely
if you want (not just minimize it?)
No. Nor would you want to do so, as newer commands aren't going to be
available over the old menus (at least, that's not currently planned)
But then how would the older menus integrate with the actual
dialog boxes and tabs of Word 2007? For example. in the older versions of
Word, you go to Tools, Options, and you get a whole bunch of tabs there,
General, Edit, Save, etc. I guess what happens with this ToolbarToggle is
that you go to Tools Options, but that takes you to the same place as going
to the "Office button" and clicking on "Options."
If you haven't been able to view the site, nor worked with Office 2007, then
there's little use guessing :) The old dialog boxes are still there, as
long as the functionality is still available in 2007. And no, it doesn't take
you to the new "Options" list.

Cindy Meister
INTER-Solutions, Switzerland
http://homepage.swissonline.ch/cindymeister (last update Jun 17 2005)
http://www.word.mvps.org

This reply is posted in the Newsgroup; please post any follow question or
reply in the newsgroup and not by e-mail :)
 
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Larry

For my own work, I may stay with Word 97, though I would need to buy my own
copy since what I have came with my computer. Eventually older applications
might stop working with newer hardware.

But right now I'm helping a friend who has 2007.

Also one needs to stay abreast of what's happening in Word.

And it's not just about me. It's about the fact that MS imposed this
monstrosity on its users.

What I'd like to do when I get a new computer, which I need to do but keep
putting off, is partition the harddrive so I could have different versions
of Word.
 
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Larry

I work on 2007 on someone else's computer, who may be interested in Toolbar
Toggle. Whenever I'm visiting the newsgroup I'm on my own computer.

If the Ribbon remains, wouldn't there be a conflict between the Ribbon
keystrokes and the older menu keystrokes? For example, Alt+W opens the
Window menu in, uh, Word "Classic," I guess we'll call it now. But in Word
2007, Alt+W opens the View tab of the Ribbon, and if memory serves, it opens
the view tab along with the entire Ribbon if the Ribbon is minimized. So if
you have these custom menus displayed and press Alt+W, what happens?
 
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sales

I'm with the Classic but because there is a product called "Classic
Menus" and I wouldn't want to confuse people (its actually the same
product features we give away with our ToolbarToggle Lite which you
get when you purchase ToolbarToggle Full)

There won't be a conflict because we chose not to trap top most
accelerator keys - because people may have modified them for their own
use which would be upsetting if we grabbed them. :) But once a
ToolbarToggle toolbar or menu or dialog appears - you can continue
using accelerator keys. Its really transparent since you get to your
goal in any case
 

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