how to get a scanner to work on a peer to peer network

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Joe Zorzin

I bought a Dell 8200 2 years ago. It's got 2 printers and a scanner. I just
bought a new Dell 3000 to use mostly for backing up files and for an
emergency computer. Bought computers have XP Pro.

I just networked them and I see that both printers are already networked
automatically. So, how do I now network the scanner? A friend suggested
installing the HP Scanjet 4570C software on the new computer- but, when I do
that, will it successfully find the scanner on the network? I've never done
networking before.

Or, do I tell the new computer to find new hardware? Then install the
software?
 
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Paul Simons

Joe Zorzin said:
I bought a Dell 8200 2 years ago. It's got 2 printers and a scanner. I just
bought a new Dell 3000 to use mostly for backing up files and for an
emergency computer. Bought computers have XP Pro.

I just networked them and I see that both printers are already networked
automatically. So, how do I now network the scanner? A friend suggested
installing the HP Scanjet 4570C software on the new computer- but, when I do
that, will it successfully find the scanner on the network? I've never done
networking before.

Or, do I tell the new computer to find new hardware? Then install the
software?

Perhaps you can log in to the other computer (with scanner) using remote
desktop.

Paul
 
J

Jimmy

You will need scanning software installed on both computers as your friend
suggests. The XP firewall may create some problem on allowing access to the
scanner attached to the host computer, so you may need to turn off the
firewall on the host computer.
 
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CSM1

Joe Zorzin said:
I bought a Dell 8200 2 years ago. It's got 2 printers and a scanner. I just
bought a new Dell 3000 to use mostly for backing up files and for an
emergency computer. Bought computers have XP Pro.

I just networked them and I see that both printers are already networked
automatically. So, how do I now network the scanner? A friend suggested
installing the HP Scanjet 4570C software on the new computer- but, when I
do
that, will it successfully find the scanner on the network? I've never
done
networking before.

Or, do I tell the new computer to find new hardware? Then install the
software?

It is not really possible to network a scanner.

How would you control the scanner from a remote computer, little things such
as changing documents.

It has been tried many times, none successful.

There are very expensive business models that can be networked in a
enterprise type of business.
 
P

Paul Simons

CSM1 said:
It is not really possible to network a scanner.

How would you control the scanner from a remote computer, little things such
as changing documents.

It has been tried many times, none successful.

Joe did not describe his intentions or situation in detail, so let's not
jump to conclusions. It is not a fact that no effort to do so was
successful. Physical setup may vary -the second computer may be as close to
the scanner as the computer connected to the scanner is (networking
computers means connecting them, not increasing distance between them).
Still, the two computers may differ, resulting in the need to access the
scanner from both computers. Some people may prefer the hassle of sharing a
scanner to the cost of an additional scanner.

Paul
 
J

Jimmy

CSM1 said:
It is not really possible to network a scanner.

How would you control the scanner from a remote computer, little things
such as changing documents.

It has been tried many times, none successful.

There are very expensive business models that can be networked in a
enterprise type of business.

I can see the need to network a scanner at home. If my wife has the host
computer tied up, I can still use the flatbed scanner via my 2nd computer.
Locating several feet away isn't practical, but if both computers are in
proximity then there isn't a problem.
 
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CSM1

Jimmy said:
I can see the need to network a scanner at home. If my wife has the host
computer tied up, I can still use the flatbed scanner via my 2nd computer.
Locating several feet away isn't practical, but if both computers are in
proximity then there isn't a problem.

Yes, it would be nice to be able to drive a scanner by remote computer, but
the problem turns out to be that scanners will not network unless designed
for networking. The software is not up to the task.

Do search of Google scanner groups and you will not find any that have been
successful in networking a home scanner.
http://groups.google.com/


http://groups.google.com/groups?q=n...=&[email protected]&rnum=3
 
J

Jimmy

CSM1 said:
Yes, it would be nice to be able to drive a scanner by remote computer,
but the problem turns out to be that scanners will not network unless
designed for networking. The software is not up to the task.

Do search of Google scanner groups and you will not find any that have
been successful in networking a home scanner.
http://groups.google.com/


http://groups.google.com/groups?q=n...=&[email protected]&rnum=3
I didn't need to do a google search, just looked in the help index for my HP
PrecisionScan software. This is taken from my help file:

"If the HP ScanJet scanner is connected to your computer, you can allow
users on remote PCs on your local area network to use the scanner. The user
on the remote PC runs the scanning software on his or her PC, but scans the
image from the scanner attached to your PC (host PC).

Setting up scanner sharing

There are a few simple steps to set up scanner sharing on the PC where the
scanner is connected.
To access the HP PrecisionScan LAN Host dialog box, do one of the following:

· Double-click the scanner icon in the System Tray.
-OR-
· Select Programs->HP ScanJet Software->HP ScanJet Utilities->Share Scanner
from the Windows Start menu.


The Info tab in the HP PrecisionScan LAN Host dialog box presents
information about your PC relating to your local area network. It shows you
the name of your PC, whether or not another PC is connected to your scanner,
and the network protocols that your PC supports.
The Password tab lets you set up a password that remote users must enter
when they want to share your scanner. To require remote users to enter a
password, check the box marked Require passwords for remote users, and then
enter a password. Be sure you let your remote users know what the password
is!

Allowing scanner sharing

In order for remote users to use your scanner, scanner sharing must be
enabled.
By default, the software installation program places a scanner icon in the
System Tray of your Windows interface. Clicking the left mouse button on
this icon brings up a menu, which includes the following items:

· Automatically Start
HP PrecisionScan LAN must be running on your PC in order for other users to
share your scanner. When the Automatically Start menu item is checked, this
menu item will start the scanner sharing components your PC each time the
PC is started. If unchecked, the scanner sharing components are not
automatically started. In that case, you will have to start them using
Programs->HP ScanJet Software->HP ScanJet Utilities->Share Scanner from the
Windows Start menu.

Any time HP PrecisionScan LAN is running on your PC remote users can share
your scanner."
 
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CSM1

There is software that can network a scanner, but most home scanners do not
have the software.
I said "scanners will not network unless designed for networking."

Also the file and printer sharing must be turned on in Windows and the
scanner shared.
All of these things have to work right, or no go.
 

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