How to enable Indic language support without SP3 Disc?

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stuartnz

I am running XP Pro, and last month I paid a local tech to format and
reinstall for me, because I wanted to save time on the reinstall. My OEM CD
is only SP2, and the tech had SP3 slipstreamed on a CD. The installation went
without any problems, but now I can't enablre Indic language support because
the installation process keeps asking for the SP3 CD and I don't have it. How
can I enable Indic language support without the SP3 installation media
 
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Shenan Stanley

stuartnz said:
I am running XP Pro, and last month I paid a local tech to format
and reinstall for me, because I wanted to save time on the
reinstall. My OEM CD is only SP2, and the tech had SP3 slipstreamed
on a CD. The installation went without any problems, but now I
can't enablre Indic language support because the installation
process keeps asking for the SP3 CD and I don't have it. How can I
enable Indic language support without the SP3 installation media

Integrate SP3 into your media and burn a new CD.
(Also known as slipstreaming.)

Now is a great time to point you to one of the easiest ways to find
information on problems you may be having and solutions others have found:

Search using Google!
http://www.google.com/
(How-to: http://www.google.com/intl/en/help/basics.html )
 
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stuartnz

:

Integrate SP3 into your media and burn a new CD.
(Also known as slipstreaming.)

Now is a great time to point you to one of the easiest ways to find
information on problems you may be having and solutions others have found:

Search using Google!
http://www.google.com/
(How-to: http://www.google.com/intl/en/help/basics.html )

Thanks for the prompt response, Shenan. FWIW, I had spent the last 40
minutes or so searching both Google and microsoft.com for an answer to my
query before posting here. If I read your answer correctly it is not
possible to do what I need to without installation media. Thanks again for
the prompt reply and the superfluous advice on how to search for answers.
 
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Engin Tarhan

Hi there,

SP3 is downloadable from the Internet for free. However, I understand that
you're not very knowledgeable on the subject, so I'd suggest paying the tech
again to install it. He should know how.

If you want to do it yourself, you have to do some reading though. I'd
advise you to use the "Tools --> Windows Update (sometimes Microsoft Update)
link in Internet Explorer, or try the search option in www.microsoft.com web
site. Windows Update provides much more than SP3, such as security updates,
and the best part is that, you don't have to try to understand which update
is applicable to your setup - it does it automatically.

Good Luck,
Engin tarhan
 
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stuartnz

Engin Tarhan said:
Hi there,

SP3 is downloadable from the Internet for free. However, I understand that
you're not very knowledgeable on the subject, so I'd suggest paying the tech
again to install it. He should know how.

I seem to be acting like some sort of condescension magnet with this thread.
I am more than sufficiently competent to download an SP, format and
reinstall the OS myself. I have done so on many occasions in the past, with
several versions of Windows and several Linux distros. I chose to use a tech
service for two reasons, efficient use of time and because I can claim the
cost of the job as a tax expense.

Since I posted this question, I have slipstreamed SP3 and fixed the issue.
It was both slightly disappointing and mildly amusing that the two people who
responded were unable to do so without resorting to patronising assumptions
that were both inaccurate and irrelevant.
 
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Engin Tarhan

You may be right.

Still, in my case, I'd hardly call anyone "capable" or "competent", if the
person talks about not having an SP3 CD available, which more or less
implies that (s)he is not aware of the availability of the same on the
Internet.

I agree that Shenan Stanley has a dislikeable habit of showing what's
correct in a manner which is not incorrect. But I was not trying to create a
rash. You should perhaps describe yourself more correctly in the future when
asking questions about things that you're "more than sufficiently competent"
to do.

Good luck,
Engin Tarhan
 
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stuartnz

Engin Tarhan said:
You may be right.

Still, in my case, I'd hardly call anyone "capable" or "competent", if the
person talks about not having an SP3 CD available, which more or less
implies that (s)he is not aware of the availability of the same on the
Internet.

It was a simple question. I had hoped that it would not be necessary to
slipstream SP3 just to enable Indic language support. The reason I did not
have an SP3 CD prior to starting this thread was simply because I hadn't
bothered downloading it, not because I was incapable of doing so. The
assumptions about my skill level were inferred, not implied. Regardless, the
issue is resolved, thanks to Shenan's first post. Once I knew for sure that
slipstreaming was the only solution, I did it. It seems that my indolence and
sloth have been misread as indicators of low levels of competence. That is
rather droll.
 
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Engin Tarhan

You may be right again.
stuartnz said:
It was a simple question. I had hoped that it would not be necessary to
slipstream SP3 just to enable Indic language support. The reason I did not
have an SP3 CD prior to starting this thread was simply because I hadn't
bothered downloading it, not because I was incapable of doing so. The
assumptions about my skill level were inferred, not implied. Regardless,
the
issue is resolved, thanks to Shenan's first post. Once I knew for sure
that
slipstreaming was the only solution, I did it. It seems that my indolence
and
sloth have been misread as indicators of low levels of competence. That is
rather droll.
 
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Shenan Stanley

stuartnz said:
I am running XP Pro, and last month I paid a local tech to format
and reinstall for me, because I wanted to save time on the
reinstall. My OEM CD is only SP2, and the tech had SP3 slipstreamed
on a CD. The installation went without any problems, but now I
can't enablre Indic language support because the installation
process keeps asking for the SP3 CD and I don't have it. How can I
enable Indic language support without the SP3 installation media

Shenan said:
Integrate SP3 into your media and burn a new CD.
(Also known as slipstreaming.)

Now is a great time to point you to one of the easiest ways to find
information on problems you may be having and solutions others
have found:

Search using Google!
http://www.google.com/
(How-to: http://www.google.com/intl/en/help/basics.html )
Thanks for the prompt response, Shenan. FWIW, I had spent the last
40 minutes or so searching both Google and microsoft.com for an
answer to my query before posting here. If I read your answer
correctly it is not possible to do what I need to without
installation media. Thanks again for the prompt reply and the
superfluous advice on how to search for answers.

Let's try this again...

You stated, "My OEM CD is only SP2"... I told you that you could integrate
SP3 into your installation media - gave you the words to look for using
Google, etc. I suppose that could be considered "superfluous advice", but I
would say it was exactly what you needed.

You see - what I have basically told you is that since you have an
installation CD (you state yours contains SP2) and could have made a Windows
XP with SP3 installation CD yourself - thereby your paying a local tech to
install for you because they had an SP3 installation CD was unwise at best.
However - you did not have to make that mistake again (or could have -
should have - gotten the 'local tech' to give you a copy of the installation
media they used) and could make your own Windows XP SP3 media easily
enough - all you had to do was search for how (given the keywords I had.)

I told you how you could - in the future - save money and time.

A google search you could have done...
http://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+slipstream+SP3+into+Windows+XP

The easiest answer for you - nLite.
http://www.nliteos.com/download.html

Using it - all the work is essentially done for you. You just need it and
the SP3 IT professional download, really...
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...A8-5E76-401F-BE08-1E1555D4F3D4&displaylang=en

Sorry you believed my advice on how you could properly help yourself was
superfluous. Maybe it was - if you wold rather spend money and waste time
on things you could learn to do yourself and become more knowledgable and
less dependent on others for it. *shrug* To each their own.
 
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Shenan Stanley

stuartnz said:
It was a simple question. I had hoped that it would not be
necessary to slipstream SP3 just to enable Indic language support.
The reason I did not have an SP3 CD prior to starting this thread
was simply because I hadn't bothered downloading it, not because I
was incapable of doing so. The assumptions about my skill level
were inferred, not implied. Regardless, the issue is resolved,
thanks to Shenan's first post. Once I knew for sure that
slipstreaming was the only solution, I did it. It seems that my
indolence and sloth have been misread as indicators of low levels
of competence. That is rather droll.

Or it could be you posted on a newsgroup knowing what the possible answer
could be (that you need the installation media with SP3) and you may have
even known how to do that (who knows) and thus you assumed that teh rest of
us would know that you knew all that instinctively.

No one treated you as stupid or incapable. Everyone gave you answers that
were appropriate for the query you presented. If you had said, "I know I
could slipstream/integrated SP3 into the installation media have and fix
things that way...", then someone might have answered, "That is your best
fix and gives you the longest term solution to this and possible future
issues...", but you did not.

I gave you the answer your question prompted. You gave no indication of
skill level or knowledge. *If* you, as you say, could have done all this
yourself and knew all the answers to your own questions (or could have found
them) then it is not your indolence and sloth that cause your issues in this
and likely other endeavors - but arrogance in believng others should know
what knowledge you do/do not have and should answer according to your level
of knowledge (whether you make that obvious or not.)

For the record - my initial response was nothing more than a suggestion on
not only how to fix your problem - but be better equipped to resolve it in
the future. You read more into it because you took it - for whatever
reason - personally. I was honestly trying to assist you in the quickest
way possible (giving you what you needed to do) and then following it up
with advice on how to find your answer in the future. Your own assumption
that I should know you and know what you are capable of is what lead you
down this path.
 

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