how to conserv ink on Canon ip3000?

M

measekite

Gary said:
They market and label their product to the satisfaction of their
customers, and presumably regulators.
THERE NEEDS TO BE REGULATION
If the customers feel it is okay
not to disclose the formulation or manufacturer of the product, that's
their business.
THERE IS AN ASS FOR EVERY SEAT.
If that doesn't suit you then you need to find an ink vendor that does
disclose,
CANON, EPSON, AND HP
 
P

Prime

Nope, perfectly logical. If you feel the quality of ink is as good as
their disclosure, then OEM ink must be crap, as they disclose even less
than the worst aftermarket ink vendors.

Notice how illogical he is. When I provide decent arguments he ignores
them. Then he spews out these random statements. You can't reason with
him, I don't think its worth trying.
 
Z

zakezuke

He's more agreeable about humping the doorknob than refilling ink. That
says something right there.

How odd.... of the things in this world I would consider to be...
erotic... a door knob doesn't really hit my list. Is this some new
form of male erotic dancing? I fear I've never seen any male...
peformers so I have no idea what is popular. But if doorknob humping
is in who am I to argue, i've seen stranger things.
 
M

Mapanari

(e-mail address removed) (e-mail address removed):
Hi,

Recently i bought a canon ip3000, it works great. I would like to know
how to conserv ink on this printer. After printing for ~800 pages (most
in black) it reports that its running low on black ink. Is this the
best this printer can perform? Any suggestion or links would be
helpful.

with regards,
ashwin

Remember one thing...

"black" when printing color photos is not really black, it's a combination
of colors to make black.

The black cart is simply a matte black used soley for all black printing,
like text and grey scale.

Only on the 4200 up is there a seperate photo black cart for color
printing.

refilling the black cart is easy and any generic ink will do. Also, it's
bigger than the other carts and like you say, you've printed a shit load of
documents with just one cart!

--
b{-_-}d

I'm listening!

---Mapanari---
 
M

measekite

Mapanari said:
(e-mail address removed) (e-mail address removed):




Remember one thing...

"black" when printing color photos is not really black, it's a combination
of colors to make black.

The black cart is simply a matte black used soley for all black printing,
like text and grey scale.

Only on the 4200 up is there a seperate photo black cart for color
printing.
that information is totally incorrect. my ip4000 has a seperate foto
black cart for color prionting
refilling the black cart is easy and any generic ink will do.
refilling is messy and a pain. also you never know what you are putting
in it cause the relabelers do not disclose that information. as they
have told me they are afraid theuser is going to go to their supplier.
as if a user is going to buy 10 gallons of each color ink. it is best
to use what the printer was designed for.
 
E

Edwin Pawlowski

Mapanari said:
Remember one thing...

"black" when printing color photos is not really black, it's a combination
of colors to make black.

The black cart is simply a matte black used soley for all black printing,
like text and grey scale.

Are you saying this is true on all color photo printers or just the IP300?
The reason I ask, is that my Pixma 6600D has a black ink cartridge and it
does go down when printing photos. In fact, color photos is the only thing
ever printed on that printer. That black went someplace.
 
B

Burt

Edwin Pawlowski said:
Are you saying this is true on all color photo printers or just the IP300?
The reason I ask, is that my Pixma 6600D has a black ink cartridge and it
does go down when printing photos. In fact, color photos is the only
thing ever printed on that printer. That black went someplace.

Edwin - the IP3000, ip4000, and ip5000 had a bci-3eBK pigment based ink cart
that is larger than the bcdi-6 black dye-based cart. The BCI -3eBK cart was
only used when the printer is set to plain paper and is strictly for text
printing. The ip3000 printer had cyan, magenta, and yellow bci-6 carts and
had to make black with a combination of these inks when printing photos.
The ip4000 and ip5000 had the pigment based ink cart, bci-3eBK for text
printing when set to plain paper and also had a bci-6 black dye-based cart,
together with a cyan, magenta, and yellow, for photo printing. Your ip6600
is a six color printer that includes black, cyan, magenta,yellow, photo
magenta, and photo cyan, all designed for photo printing. It still does a
creditable job on text printing with its dye-based inks. You will use black
ink where necessary for photo printing on your printer, but the six color
printers, when printing photos, will usually go through two or three times
as many photo cyan and photo magenta carts as cyan, magenta, and black, and
yellow use will fall somewhere in between.
 
E

Edwin Pawlowski

Burt said:
together with a cyan, magenta, and yellow, for photo printing. Your
ip6600 is a six color printer that includes black, cyan, magenta,yellow,
photo magenta, and photo cyan, all designed for photo printing. It still
does a creditable job on text printing with its dye-based inks. You will
use black ink where necessary for photo printing on your printer, but the
six color printers, when printing photos, will usually go through two or
three times as many photo cyan and photo magenta carts as cyan, magenta,
and black, and yellow use will fall somewhere in between.

Thanks for the info. I printed over 300 4 x 6 photos over the past two
weeks. The photo magenta went first, then the photo cyan, last was the
yellow. After all that printing, the new pc and pm are down to about half,
the new yellow is just down a little and the others are down half. Your
numbers show just that.

I was hesitant to buy a dedicated photo printer, but the overall cost is
reasonable and having the ability to do it on demand is very convenient.
Total cost is about $42 for paper and a total of about $60 for OEM ink works
out to 32¢ or so per print. While more than the cost of WalMart, it does
allow for easier experimentation, etc.
 
B

Burt

Edwin Pawlowski said:
Thanks for the info. I printed over 300 4 x 6 photos over the past two
weeks. The photo magenta went first, then the photo cyan, last was the
yellow. After all that printing, the new pc and pm are down to about
half, the new yellow is just down a little and the others are down half.
Your numbers show just that.

I was hesitant to buy a dedicated photo printer, but the overall cost is
reasonable and having the ability to do it on demand is very convenient.
Total cost is about $42 for paper and a total of about $60 for OEM ink
works out to 32¢ or so per print. While more than the cost of WalMart, it
does allow for easier experimentation, etc.
Edwin - If you have access to Costco where you live, buy their kirkland
glossy photo paper. 8.5x11 125 sheets for about $19 and 300 4x6 sheets for
about $13. 8.5x11 made in Switzerland and 4x6 made in the US. Different
paper manufacturers, but both excellent. I have a Canon i960 (six color
printer two generations before the 6600) and refill my carts with MIS inks.
Cost of refills is about $1 per cart. My 4x6 prints cost around 7 - 10
cents at most. There are currently no aftermarket carts for the 6600 and
bulk refill ink choices are presently limited. If you are interested in
this issue check in at the Nifty-stuff forum, which is comprised mostly of
people using aftermarket carts or refilling with aftermarket inks. When
more products become available you will see them noted here and on the
Nifty-stuff forum.
http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/
 
M

measekite

glad to see you are using canon ink. getting photos printed at a lab is
not the best choice just because it costs less.
 
E

Edwin Pawlowski

Burt said:
Edwin - If you have access to Costco where you live, buy their kirkland
glossy photo paper. 8.5x11 125 sheets for about $19 and 300 4x6 sheets
for about $13. 8.5x11 made in Switzerland and 4x6 made in the US.
Different paper manufacturers, but both excellent. Nifty-stuff forum.
http://www.nifty-stuff.com/forum/

Excellent price. The nearest Costco is a 100 mile round trip to an area I
have little reason to go to. That adds $12 in gas alone, but if I'm in the
area, I'll check them out Many of the club places offer a one day pass or
charge you 5% over cost for non-members, still a good deal.
 

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