How to avoid text wrap when the browser's window gets narrower?

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David F

I use FP 2003.

How do I make a text paragraph anchored to the left and cropped on the right
side
as a browser's window gets narrower horizontally.
It seems that the default behavior is text-wrapped around when I make the
window narrower.

Thanks,
David
 
P

P@tty Ayers

How do I make a text paragraph anchored to the left and cropped on the
right
side
as a browser's window gets narrower horizontally.
It seems that the default behavior is text-wrapped around when I make the
window narrower.

Not sure what you mean by "anchored to the left and cropped on the right
side".

Do you mean that you want the column of text to be the same width regardless
of the size of the browser window?
 
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David F

Do I have to use tables for just avoiding wrapping?
Actually one would think that cropping is simpler than wrapping the text.

David
 
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David F

I did not say that I have even a column at all. Just text in a page.
If understand you correct it may be one interpretation but it sounds
complicated.
I will try to phrase it again:
Anchoring to the left means that the beginning of each line remains the
beginning of
the line as the windows gets narrower and the right side of the text is
dropped off
as the display window gets narrower. When you do that with pictures it is
called cropping.

David
 
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Thomas A. Rowe

There is not method in HTML to crop text. You can use a PRE or BLOCKQUOTE tag to force the text to
not wrap as the browser window is resized.

Why do you want to force your site visitors to scroll right to read your content, just because they
choose to re-size their browser window to their needs, when the norm is to allow the text to wrap?

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David F said:
I did not say that I have even a column at all. Just text in a page.
If understand you correct it may be one interpretation but it sounds
complicated.
I will try to phrase it again:
Anchoring to the left means that the beginning of each line remains the
beginning of
the line as the windows gets narrower and the right side of the text is
dropped off
as the display window gets narrower. When you do that with pictures it is
called cropping.

David
 
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David F

1. The BLOCKQUOTE tag did not work.
2. Maybe I don't insert it correctly but weirdly enough, neither one of the
terms PRE, PREFORMATTED or BLOCKQUOTE can be found in the help (not even
searching in MS Office Online (and by the way, how come I by default being
forced to search online first and why is it better at all then offline
search). Even more weird is that while search for PREFORMATTED resulted 0
found, PREFORMATTED TEXT yielded results (only in MS search...) but none of
them helped (or I may have not looked good enough).
3. When I insert (manually) the PRE tag, it seems to do the job but with
unbearable price: It introduces huge spacing like several lines between
each line. I have tried to insert these tags in several ways.

As to your question:
1. By letting the text to wrap, you don't save scrolling - you merely have
to scroll more vertically than horizontally.
2. I have seen many web pages that crop rather then wrap and in all those I
have seen it makes sense.
3. Just to begin with, in FP 2003, when you select a 'design' view, it does
cropping rather then wrapping.... w/o me doing anything and even though IE
would wrap the very same page.
4. Altogether, I think that in some cases it makes more sense to scroll
vertically more while in other cases it is clearly preferred to scroll
horizontally, if you really want to see wide line with narrow windows.

David

Thomas A. Rowe said:
There is not method in HTML to crop text. You can use a PRE or BLOCKQUOTE tag to force the text to
not wrap as the browser window is resized.

Why do you want to force your site visitors to scroll right to read your content, just because they
choose to re-size their browser window to their needs, when the norm is to allow the text to wrap?

--
==============================================
Thomas A. Rowe (Microsoft MVP - FrontPage)
WEBMASTER Resources(tm)

FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
==============================================
 
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Thomas A. Rowe

See inline below.

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FrontPage Resources, WebCircle, MS KB Quick Links, etc.
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David F said:
1. The BLOCKQUOTE tag did not work.
2. Maybe I don't insert it correctly but weirdly enough, neither one of the
terms PRE, PREFORMATTED or BLOCKQUOTE can be found in the help (not even
searching in MS Office Online (and by the way, how come I by default being
forced to search online first and why is it better at all then offline
search). Even more weird is that while search for PREFORMATTED resulted 0
found, PREFORMATTED TEXT yielded results (only in MS search...) but none of
them helped (or I may have not looked good enough).
3. When I insert (manually) the PRE tag, it seems to do the job but with
unbearable price: It introduces huge spacing like several lines between
each line. I have tried to insert these tags in several ways.

Personally, I don't use any of those tags, since it affect the page layout.
As to your question:
1. By letting the text to wrap, you don't save scrolling - you merely have
to scroll more vertically than horizontally.

Users are use to scrolling down a page whether it is on the internet or in desktop applications.
2. I have seen many web pages that crop rather then wrap and in all those I
have seen it makes sense.

This I think tend to happen when the page is designed using layers, I could be wrong on this.
3. Just to begin with, in FP 2003, when you select a 'design' view, it does
cropping rather then wrapping.... w/o me doing anything and even though IE
would wrap the very same page.

I have never had that happen in any version of FP, but I really don't use FP2003 for production
work.
 
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Ronx

Browsers are designed to automatically wrap text, so stopping the
wrapping takes extra effort.
If you do not put the text in a fixed width container (tables are
universally supported) the only other ways are to use the <pre> text
</pre> tags (which you have already rejected) or to use an image to
provide a minimum width to the page.

The FrontPage design view is preset to the page width you choose (see
the bottom right of the FrontPage window which shows the page
dimensions.)

Most users object to left-right scrolling, and long lines of text are
much more difficult to read than short lines, which is why magazines
and newspapers divide pages into columns. Long lines with left/right
scrolling? That is the worst combination ever.

About a third (or more) of the browsers in use today are set to a
width of 800px. That's a lot of people to annoy.
 
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Bob Lehmann

Actually one would think that cropping is simpler than wrapping the text.
That may be true, but it is not an option.

Bob Lehmann
 
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P@tty Ayers

2. I have seen many web pages that crop rather then wrap and in all those
I
have seen it makes sense.

For what it's worth, I have never seen a web site use this technique, except
for when it was an error.
 
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P@tty Ayers

... as the windows gets narrower and the right side of the text is
dropped off as the display window gets narrower. When you do that with
pictures it is
called cropping.

Actually, with graphics, "cropping" refers to slicing off part of the image,
not to placing it in a scrollable area of a web page. I've never heard it
applied to text.
 
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David F

Thanks for the detailed response.
The <pre> tag caused major distortions of the format (for IE 6.1 at least).
So I will have to go with tables.
When I tried insert a table, I can't rid of the table insertion state mode -
see my recent new post above...

David
 

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