How get this Group with FF?

G

Guest

I just started using Firefox last week and when I try to get to this group I
get the following:

"Warning: This page requires the use of scripts, which your browser does not
currently allow."

Out of close to 100 sites, this is the first occurrence of this error
message. Would someone please help this newbie?

Thanks
 
M

Max Wachtel

dwdruley said:
I just started using Firefox last week and when I try to get to this group I
get the following:

"Warning: This page requires the use of scripts, which your browser does not
currently allow."

Out of close to 100 sites, this is the first occurrence of this error
message. Would someone please help this newbie?

Thanks
Why don't you try using a newsreader. Thunderbird has one(so does OE)
-max
 
D

dev

/dwdruley/ said:
I just started using Firefox last week and when I try to get to this group I
get the following:

"Warning: This page requires the use of scripts, which your browser does not
currently allow."

Out of close to 100 sites, this is the first occurrence of this error
message. Would someone please help this newbie?

Install the news/mail reader component, Thunderbird, from http://mozilla.org

Than subscribe to the news://msnews.microsoft.com server groups of your
choosing.
 
G

Guest

I greatly appreciate the two replies but I sense they are both workarounds. I
will install the TB news/mail component and subscribe to the news
//msnews.microsoft.com to make my TB fully capable. However, it's not clear
whether this will give me the ability to check the site for my post and reply
and rate any responses it might be getting. Even if it would, I wish to do
all my “surfing†with FF (not an email client like TB) just as I use to do
with my funky AOL browser – which has no trouble accessing this XP newsgroup.
Since FF is superior to AOL (in all ways) I have to believe that my new FF
install is simply lacking a plug-in or extension to “surf†to this XP site as
I can now do with FF to other newsgroups and forums like Mozilla and others.

Rephrasing my question: Is there anyone with FF who is able to contact this
group directly? And did that require a FF modification? I need to point out
that AOL will remain my default email client (to check all the junk) and I
will use TB just for family and friends.
 
A

Alias

What a spoiled child you are. I want what I want when I want it. FF can't do
what you want so you're SOL. You need activex which is only available with
IE. UseNet is not "surfing". You can use OE or TB or nada and, trust me, OE
and TB are much better suited for UseNet than any browser.

Life's a bitch and then sometimes you can't use FF.
 
G

Guest

Since you think I'm a "child", let me ask you a child like questiion. Why can
AOL do this and FF can't? Isn't FF supposed to be bigger and better?
 
A

Alias

dwdruley said:
Since you think I'm a "child", let me ask you a child like questiion. Why
can
AOL do this and FF can't? Isn't FF supposed to be bigger and better?

Um, AOSmell is based on IE with activex, of course! Now grow up and use a
newsreader for news groups.
 
G

Guest

I can acces this site with FF but I no longer use it here,every 2 or 3 months
Microsoft changes the web interface of this group, the last time was about 6
weeks ago give or take,this was right after a news release that FF is gaining
market share.
Anyway when the web interface was changed MS added a coding that really
screwed up FF and this site, the fonts are in gibberish and are unreadable.
I contacted MS support and recieved their standard reply something like this:
MS does not support third party applications...bla bla bla.
Was it on purpose???? You betcha.
 
B

Bruce Chambers

dwdruley said:
Rephrasing my question: Is there anyone with FF who is able to contact this
group directly?


No. But for that matter, no one using *any* web browser, including
Internet Explorer, is accessing this newsgroup "directly." To get true,
direct access to Usenet, one must use a newsreader, such as Outlook
Express, Forte Agent, X-News, or Thunderbird. The web-based interface
that you're currently using is a poor substitute, with greatly limited
capabilities.


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:



You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having
both at once. - RAH
 
B

Bruce Chambers

dwdruley said:
Since you think I'm a "child", let me ask you a child like questiion. Why can
AOL do this and FF can't? Isn't FF supposed to be bigger and better?

AOL is the Internet on training wheels.

--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:



You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having
both at once. - RAH
 
D

DanS

Since you think I'm a "child", let me ask you a child like questiion.
Why can AOL do this and FF can't? Isn't FF supposed to be bigger and
better?

And for the record, at the AOL site you can find info on how to use a
'real' pop3 e-mail client for access to AOL e-mail (such as Eudora, TB,
or even OE). It still bewilders me how many people are STILL with AOL for
$20 + dollars a month when there are $10 ISP's. Or take the $20+ and for
only $10 or $15 more a month, you could have blazingly fast cable
Internet access that completely blows away ANY kind of dial-up. Or,
people have AOL AND a second phone line, which makes it what $40 - $60 a
month. I guess if the child-access controls are important to you, and if
they work.

OK, here's the deal. This 'website', as you call it, is nothing more than
a web-based interface for the microsoft.* newsgroups on UseNet.

It is ALWAYS better to use a news-client to 'do' UseNet. A newsreader
will have ALL the features you like about this 'page', plus tons more
that you have never even thought of. Also, you will NEVER have the
problems that you experience using a web interface. As a news-to-web
portal service, like the one your using, they can change the web
interface at will, which may or may not be problem for some people
depending on their browser, security restrictions, etc. Any newsreader
supports the underlying real NNTP protocol specification, which very
rarely changes.

Here's another thought for you, did you ever think M$ may have changed
the UI purposely so users of FF couldn't use the web-portal ? Anyone in
control of a news-web portal can choose to carry only certain groups,
they can filter and screen posts as well. Hell, they may even filter this
one out. With a 'real' newsreader (NOT OE, see below), you get to see
probably ALL of the post's, unchanged, unadulterated, in a way that it
was meant to be seen, NOT, how someone at M$ think's YOU should see it.
Also, all you get is UseNet, you will not see loads of other links to
other M$ sites or products. There should be no problems posting either.
You can probably believe how many double (or more) posts I've seen from a
web-portal because the user clicked on 'Post' and IE crapped out, or it
just returned to some page and the user didn't know if it posted or not,
so they clicked 'Post' again, and again, and again. Hmmmm, UseNet->M$->
You (in M$ form), or.......UseNet->you (in its original UseNet form).

The suggestion to use a newsreader to see these groups is not a 'work-
around', as you put it. It is the preferred method. Trust everyone that
tells you this because it is FACT.

So I just checked groups.google.com, and that reports there are 2700+
microsoft.public.* newsgroups. In reality, there are 200,000 MORE
newsgroups that you know nothing about. Groups about EVERY subject
imaginable. There's BINARY groups also, the largest growing part of
UseNet.

The de-facto standard newsreaders, IMO, are X-News (
http://www.download.com/Xnews/3000-2164_4-10144167.html )for reading text
groups, and NewsLeecher ( www.newsleecher.com ) for binary downloading.
If you were to use those 2 program's, you could get THE MOST out of the
UseNet community, NOT just what M$ wants to show you.
 
N

Nightowl

Alias wrote on Sat, 16 Jul 2005:
What a spoiled child you are. I want what I want when I want it. FF can't do
what you want so you're SOL. You need activex which is only available with
IE. UseNet is not "surfing". You can use OE or TB or nada and, trust me, OE
and TB are much better suited for UseNet than any browser.

Life's a bitch and then sometimes you can't use FF.


Yes you can. I've just done it. (Only for the sake of experiment, I
hasten to add, as I always use Turnpike to read Usenet.)

DW, I am assuming you went here, as I did:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/...rosoft.public.windowsxp.general&lang=en&cr=US

In Firefox, go to Tools > Options > Web Features and check the boxes for
Enable Java and Enable Javascript. Click the Advanced button to set
options for what you will allow scripts to do.

But I really would recommend you use a newsreader if you're going to be
reading any groups regularly. You don't have to choose OE or Thunderbird
either; there are lots of good ones.

Hope this helps.
 
A

Alias

Nightowl said:
Alias wrote on Sat, 16 Jul 2005:



Yes you can. I've just done it. (Only for the sake of experiment, I hasten
to add, as I always use Turnpike to read Usenet.)

DW, I am assuming you went here, as I did:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/...rosoft.public.windowsxp.general&lang=en&cr=US

Actually, I just went there with FF and had no problem opening the messages.
I stand corrected but may I add that I didn't configure FF at all and it
still worked. I am running FF version 1.0.5.
 
N

NoStop

After sticking his head out from his XP firewall, dwdruley had this to say:
Since you think I'm a "child", let me ask you a child like questiion. Why
can AOL do this and FF can't? Isn't FF supposed to be bigger and better?
Hmmm, maybe it has something to do with Microsoft writing scripts that
aren't standard, like it is prone to do? Stop being a child and if you're
going to access Usenet, access it with a proper newsreader.
 
A

Andrew Murray

use a decent newsreader (eg Outlook Express) rather than the html version of
the group.
 

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