How do you remove "hidden" NICs

D

Dennis

I had to replace the motherboard on a W2K server and 2
NICs. The new motherboard had a built in NIC and I had to
install a different NIC. Now I have two "hidden" NICs
that cannot be removed. When you try you get the
following message...
"Failed to uninstall the device. The device may be
required to boot up the computer."

I know I could most likely remove the cards if I were able
to reinstall them. That, however, is impossible.

Anyone have any suggestions?
 
K

Kilgore Trout

I had to replace the motherboard on a W2K server and 2
NICs. The new motherboard had a built in NIC and I had to
install a different NIC. Now I have two "hidden" NICs
that cannot be removed. When you try you get the
following message...
"Failed to uninstall the device. The device may be
required to boot up the computer."

I know I could most likely remove the cards if I were able
to reinstall them. That, however, is impossible.

Anyone have any suggestions?

You need to edit a value in the registry to allow this.

In my system, the Network devices key is at:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4D36E972-
E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\000x]
(where x = a number. In my system, '\0001' is the "RAS Async Adapter")

Change to this value: "Characteristics"=dword:00000084
from the 00000041? I think it is. Setting it to hex 84 will allow its
removal. You can also do this to the other useless junk network
adapters, like the parallel port thing, and remove that, too.

You need to look at all network card class items, ...\0000 ...\0001 etc.
Be VERY careful, putting this stuff back is not easy. I'd suggest that
you leave anything that says 'WAN' as part of its name.

You might need to run regedt32.exe and take ownership of the
\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4D36E972-
E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318} key before you can change anything.
 
V

Vance Green

Kilgore Trout said:
I had to replace the motherboard on a W2K server and 2
NICs. The new motherboard had a built in NIC and I had to
install a different NIC. Now I have two "hidden" NICs
that cannot be removed. When you try you get the
following message...
"Failed to uninstall the device. The device may be
required to boot up the computer."

I know I could most likely remove the cards if I were able
to reinstall them. That, however, is impossible.

Anyone have any suggestions?

You need to edit a value in the registry to allow this.

In my system, the Network devices key is at:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4D36E972-
E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\000x]
(where x = a number. In my system, '\0001' is the "RAS Async Adapter")

Change to this value: "Characteristics"=dword:00000084
from the 00000041? I think it is. Setting it to hex 84 will allow its
removal. You can also do this to the other useless junk network
adapters, like the parallel port thing, and remove that, too.

You need to look at all network card class items, ...\0000 ...\0001 etc.
Be VERY careful, putting this stuff back is not easy. I'd suggest that
you leave anything that says 'WAN' as part of its name.

You might need to run regedt32.exe and take ownership of the
\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4D36E972-
E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318} key before you can change anything.

Yow!

This sounds dangerous. Lots of room
for error.

Try this instead:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;241257 Device
Manager Does Not Display Devices Not Currently Present in Windows 2000

I've used it, it works...
 
D

Dennis

I found the entries but were already set to 84. Already
had ownership. Still can't delete. Any further wisdom to
add?
-----Original Message-----
I had to replace the motherboard on a W2K server and 2
NICs. The new motherboard had a built in NIC and I had to
install a different NIC. Now I have two "hidden" NICs
that cannot be removed. When you try you get the
following message...
"Failed to uninstall the device. The device may be
required to boot up the computer."

I know I could most likely remove the cards if I were able
to reinstall them. That, however, is impossible.

Anyone have any suggestions?

You need to edit a value in the registry to allow this.

In my system, the Network devices key is at:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\
{4D36E972-
E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\000x]
(where x = a number. In my system, '\0001' is the "RAS Async Adapter")

Change to this value: "Characteristics"=dword:00000084
from the 00000041? I think it is. Setting it to hex 84 will allow its
removal. You can also do this to the other useless junk network
adapters, like the parallel port thing, and remove that, too.

You need to look at all network card class items, ...\0000 ...\0001 etc.
Be VERY careful, putting this stuff back is not easy. I'd suggest that
you leave anything that says 'WAN' as part of its name.

You might need to run regedt32.exe and take ownership of the
\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4D36E972-
E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318} key before you can change anything.
 
G

Guest

-----Original Message-----

Kilgore Trout said:
You need to edit a value in the registry to allow this.

In my system, the Network devices key is at:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\
{4D36E972-
E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\000x]
(where x = a number. In my system, '\0001' is the "RAS Async Adapter")

Change to this value: "Characteristics"=dword:00000084
from the 00000041? I think it is. Setting it to hex 84 will allow its
removal. You can also do this to the other useless junk network
adapters, like the parallel port thing, and remove that, too.

You need to look at all network card class items, ...\0000 ...\0001 etc.
Be VERY careful, putting this stuff back is not easy. I'd suggest that
you leave anything that says 'WAN' as part of its name.

You might need to run regedt32.exe and take ownership of the
\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4D36E972-
E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318} key before you can change anything.

Yow!

This sounds dangerous. Lots of room
for error.

Try this instead:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en- us;241257 Device
Manager Does Not Display Devices Not Currently Present in Windows 2000

I've used it, it works...


.
I can see the devices just by turning on "show hidden
devices" but still cannot remove them.

Where is the switch to turn off/on so I can remove them!
 
R

Russ Tanner

disable the internal NIC in the Hardware Manager??

--
Russ Tanner
Palmer, Alaska
email: russattannersacredotcom
http://www.tannersacre.com

Dennis said:
I found the entries but were already set to 84. Already
had ownership. Still can't delete. Any further wisdom to
add?
-----Original Message-----
I had to replace the motherboard on a W2K server and 2
NICs. The new motherboard had a built in NIC and I had to
install a different NIC. Now I have two "hidden" NICs
that cannot be removed. When you try you get the
following message...
"Failed to uninstall the device. The device may be
required to boot up the computer."

I know I could most likely remove the cards if I were able
to reinstall them. That, however, is impossible.

Anyone have any suggestions?

You need to edit a value in the registry to allow this.

In my system, the Network devices key is at:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\
{4D36E972-
E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\000x]
(where x = a number. In my system, '\0001' is the "RAS Async Adapter")

Change to this value: "Characteristics"=dword:00000084
from the 00000041? I think it is. Setting it to hex 84 will allow its
removal. You can also do this to the other useless junk network
adapters, like the parallel port thing, and remove that, too.

You need to look at all network card class items, ...\0000 ...\0001 etc.
Be VERY careful, putting this stuff back is not easy. I'd suggest that
you leave anything that says 'WAN' as part of its name.

You might need to run regedt32.exe and take ownership of the
\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4D36E972-
E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318} key before you can change anything.
 
D

dennis

I can easily disable them but I want them gone!!!
It warns you every time you set the static IP address on
the current cards that those non-exsistant cards have the
same IP address and could have problems if they are
reinstalled. I know MS is trying to protect people from
themselves but this is ridiculous. It shouldn't be this
hard to get rid of non-exsistant hardware!

Thanks for your input Russ.
-----Original Message-----
disable the internal NIC in the Hardware Manager??

--
Russ Tanner
Palmer, Alaska
email: russattannersacredotcom
http://www.tannersacre.com

I found the entries but were already set to 84. Already
had ownership. Still can't delete. Any further wisdom to
add?
-----Original Message-----
I had to replace the motherboard on a W2K server and 2
NICs. The new motherboard had a built in NIC and I
had
to
install a different NIC. Now I have two "hidden" NICs
that cannot be removed. When you try you get the
following message...
"Failed to uninstall the device. The device may be
required to boot up the computer."

I know I could most likely remove the cards if I were able
to reinstall them. That, however, is impossible.

Anyone have any suggestions?

You need to edit a value in the registry to allow this.

In my system, the Network devices key is at:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\
{4D36E972-
E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\000x]
(where x = a number. In my system, '\0001' is the "RAS Async Adapter")

Change to this value: "Characteristics"=dword:00000084
from the 00000041? I think it is. Setting it to hex 84 will allow its
removal. You can also do this to the other useless junk network
adapters, like the parallel port thing, and remove
that,
too.
You need to look at all network card class items, ...\0000 ...\0001 etc.
Be VERY careful, putting this stuff back is not easy.
I'd
suggest that
you leave anything that says 'WAN' as part of its name.

You might need to run regedt32.exe and take ownership
of
the
\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4D36E972-
E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318} key before you can change anything.


.
 
P

Pavel A.

Dennis,
This procedure (show hidden devices etc) normally should work.
Try this again in safe mode, and make sure you are administrator.
If you get same error - something in the system is broken (just one of 1000
possible reasons: the INF files of that netcard drivers are deleted).
Then, look for professional help. Editing registry can do more harm if you
aren't sure what you are doing.


dennis said:
I can easily disable them but I want them gone!!!
It warns you every time you set the static IP address on
the current cards that those non-exsistant cards have the
same IP address and could have problems if they are
reinstalled. I know MS is trying to protect people from
themselves but this is ridiculous. It shouldn't be this
hard to get rid of non-exsistant hardware!

Thanks for your input Russ.
-----Original Message-----
disable the internal NIC in the Hardware Manager??

--
Russ Tanner
Palmer, Alaska
email: russattannersacredotcom
http://www.tannersacre.com

I found the entries but were already set to 84. Already
had ownership. Still can't delete. Any further wisdom to
add?

-----Original Message-----
I had to replace the motherboard on a W2K server and 2
NICs. The new motherboard had a built in NIC and I had
to
install a different NIC. Now I have two "hidden" NICs
that cannot be removed. When you try you get the
following message...
"Failed to uninstall the device. The device may be
required to boot up the computer."

I know I could most likely remove the cards if I were
able
to reinstall them. That, however, is impossible.

Anyone have any suggestions?

You need to edit a value in the registry to allow this.

In my system, the Network devices key is at:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\
{4D36E972-
E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\000x]
(where x = a number. In my system, '\0001' is the "RAS
Async Adapter")

Change to this value: "Characteristics"=dword:00000084
from the 00000041? I think it is. Setting it to hex 84
will allow its
removal. You can also do this to the other useless junk
network
adapters, like the parallel port thing, and remove that,
too.

You need to look at all network card class
items, ...\0000 ...\0001 etc.
Be VERY careful, putting this stuff back is not easy. I'd
suggest that
you leave anything that says 'WAN' as part of its name.

You might need to run regedt32.exe and take ownership of
the
\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4D36E972-
E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318} key before you can change
anything.


.
 

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