How do I stop symbol crashing?

[Guest]

In a presentation with less then or equal values, I use the character that
looks most like my Arial font. I use character code 163, Symbol (decimal) and
it looks fine and appears the best on-screen for the over head presentations,
but crashes into the font on printing. I use chararacter code 2264, Unicode
(hex) for perfect printing, but looks far different on-screen and prints the
most like Arial font. I want to find a solid character (< or =) that both
looks like Arial and prints like Arial. Any ideas?

XP Pro 2002 SP1, P4 - 2.79Ghz, .99GB

Thanks, Martin

 

[Bill Foley]

I guess I'm confused. Why aren't you using the < or = keys on the keyboard
instead of trying to insert symbols?

 

[Echo S]

I can understand that. If you want a greater-than-equal-to symbol
(greater-than with a line underneath it), you have to insert a symbol.
Greater-than-equal-to (or less-than-equal-to) isn't actually on my keyboard,
anyway.

Greater-than with an underline doesn't look as good as the symbol, either.

 

[Guest]

Exactly, Echo S. Yes, I am looking for a single symbol/font to represent
"greater (or less) than and equal-to" any number.
I've used Insert>Symbol to place the different item in my text. The two
types of 'character codes' associated are different, yet similar. Please help.

Martin

I can understand that. If you want a greater-than-equal-to symbol
(greater-than with a line underneath it), you have to insert a symbol.
Greater-than-equal-to (or less-than-equal-to) isn't actually on my keyboard,
anyway.

Greater-than with an underline doesn't look as good as the symbol, either.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP]
http://www.echosvoice.com

I guess I'm confused. Why aren't you using the < or = keys on the
keyboard instead of trying to insert symbols?

 

[Echo S]

Well, I use the actual Symbol font when I go to Insert/Symbol.
(Insert/Symbol, select Symbol from the font drop-down.)

It doesn't crash my printer. I suspect the problem is the printer drivers,
not the actual symbol. Have you updated your printer drivers?

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP]
http://www.echosvoice.com

Exactly, Echo S. Yes, I am looking for a single symbol/font to
represent "greater (or less) than and equal-to" any number.
I've used Insert>Symbol to place the different item in my text. The
two
types of 'character codes' associated are different, yet similar.
Please help.

Martin

I can understand that. If you want a greater-than-equal-to symbol
(greater-than with a line underneath it), you have to insert a
symbol. Greater-than-equal-to (or less-than-equal-to) isn't actually
on my keyboard, anyway.

Greater-than with an underline doesn't look as good as the symbol,
either.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP]
http://www.echosvoice.com

I guess I'm confused. Why aren't you using the < or = keys on the
keyboard instead of trying to insert symbols?

In a presentation with less then or equal values, I use the
character that looks most like my Arial font. I use character code
163, Symbol (decimal) and it looks fine and appears the best
on-screen for the over head presentations, but crashes into the
font on printing. I use chararacter code 2264, Unicode (hex) for
perfect printing, but looks far different on-screen and prints the
most like Arial font. I want to find a solid character (< or =)
that both looks like Arial and prints like Arial. Any ideas?

XP Pro 2002 SP1, P4 - 2.79Ghz, .99GB

Thanks, Martin

 

[Guest]

It may be that the printer uses its own fonts and does not have a font
representing ‘greater than or equal to’ in Arial and therefore defaults to a
font that it considers closest to what you wanted. Have you tried to print it
on a different printer (with more fonts) or having everything in Times New
Roman, for instance? I am not suggesting using different fonts, it is just to
see if this is the source of the problem.

 

[Guest]

Great thought. It is these particular characters. I was hoping for a
suggested 'neutral' character that would be the best of both worlds (printing
and On Screen). I know this is going to come back to me and I have no
suggestion to make them happy, you know?

Martin

 

[Guest]

Perhaps a stupid thought, but to fool the printer you may try to print to a
file and then copy the file to print? But I would try first to update the
printer driver as Echo S suggests.

 

[Guest]

Thank you for the input. This situation is in a corporate setting, precluding
the altering of any drivers. They have a sharp IT group and am aware that the
drivers are up to date. Again, great idea. I do try to keep my firmware and
drivers Very current esp. at home, for just such issues, while
working/consulting from home. Still, we have 2 Cannon 1180s both with a
respective Fiery print server. A HP Laserjet 4100 TN w/3 trays (500sheet ea).
No memory issues there. Everything networked. Have purchased all Adobe fonts,
etc.

Martin

 

[Guest]

Acrobat usage is a great idea, but in a production setting it becomes
counter-productive (timewise) to pdf everytime. The only other option I'm
seeing is to have two simulataneous ppts files. That's just crazy.

 

[Bill Foley]

What is wrong with CTRL+U (to turn on underline), then the ">" sign on the
keyboard, then CTRL+U to turn it off?

--
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Microsoft Office Specialist Master Instructor
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"Success, something you measure when you are through succeeding."

I can understand that. If you want a greater-than-equal-to symbol
(greater-than with a line underneath it), you have to insert a symbol.
Greater-than-equal-to (or less-than-equal-to) isn't actually on my
keyboard,
anyway.

Greater-than with an underline doesn't look as good as the symbol, either.

--
Echo [MS PPT MVP]
http://www.echosvoice.com

I guess I'm confused. Why aren't you using the < or = keys on the
keyboard instead of trying to insert symbols?

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

If the problem is that the printer doesn't include the needed font, perhaps all you'd
have to do is set the printer driver to download the TT font rather than letting it
map to built-in fonts. This is an option in all PS printer drivers (seems variable
with non-PS ones)

 

[Echo S]

Hm. What if you go to Tools/Options/Print and select "print true type fonts
as graphics"?

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

What is wrong with CTRL+U (to turn on underline), then the ">" sign on the
keyboard, then CTRL+U to turn it off?

Hey! Who let this guy out of the box? Every time you do that, he starts to
THINK out there and look what happens!

<g> Nice one, mister. The underline strokes might be a bit different than the
font itself but not enough to get het up over. And heck, it's a dry het.

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

Perhaps a stupid thought, but to fool the printer you may try to print to a
file and then copy the file to print? But I would try first to update the
printer driver as Echo S suggests.

I dont' think that'd help ... sending a print job to file simply takes the data
that *would* ordinarily go to the printer and puts it in a disk file instead.
The printer sees the same thing when the data get to it, no matter the route.

 

[Echo S]

Hey! Who let this guy out of the box? Every time you do that, he starts to
THINK out there and look what happens!

<g> Nice one, mister. The underline strokes might be a bit different than the
font itself but not enough to get het up over. And heck, it's a dry het.

<ahem>

 

[Bill Foley]

Even a blind acorn find's a squirrel every now and then!

 

[Steve Rindsberg]

You get back in the box too.