How do I network two computers?

[Don J]

I've got two computers that I'm trying to network together and connect
to the internet. My internet connection is Verizons new FIOS system. The
connection to FIOS is a pair of Ethertnet jacks on their interface box.
I've
got the two FIOS jacks connected to the single Ethernet jacks that came
standard on the back of each computer. My connection to the Internet
appears to be working fine.

My problem is the connection between computers. I have a Network
Ethernet PCI Card plugged into each of the computers. I have the PCI Cards
connected with an Ethernet cable. I am using the book "Windows XP
Inside-Out" published by Microsoft Corp. Using the network setup wizard I
get the result "Cannot Complete the Network Setup Wizard". There is also
sometimes a major discrepancy between the instructions that are given in the
book and what appears on the screen.

Any help would be appreciated.

Don J

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[Jerry]

Did you try asking Verizon for help - FIOS is pretty new and help maybe hard
to find.

 

[- Bobb -]

Don,

We'll need to ask a few questions: Is each Pc going to its own DSL modem
? You said that they are " plugged into the FIOS box" - via RJ45 cable
( like a phone jack but bigger) ? Do you have a router ? Or is this FIOS
box also a router ? Do you know ? What's the name/model of the DSL box
? ( so we can look it up online to see what it is too ).. Did you try
Verizon's website for " how-to" page ?

I just did a google search for "verizon fios network setup home" - and
CHECK THIS OUT:
http://www.bricklin.com/fiosinstall.htm the name was familiar ( I've
been around computers since the 70's. Dan Bricklin is the guy who wrote
Visicalc )
Sure 'nuf I clicked on his homepage - it's him. For those who don't
know what Visicalc is/was, it was the first version of Lotus 1-2-3 and
later Microsoft Excel. ( Dan did not patent it, so the other guys stole
it from him. ) He lives in Newton so he has Verizon too. OK, HE ought
to be able to explain how to hook it up !!!

Other basic FIOS info here:
http://forumz.tomshardware.com/network/Help-design-FIOS-ftopict21924.html
and here
http://www.homenethelp.com/web/diagram/ ( lots of links on that page -
choose your setup)
like this would be typical:
http://www.homenethelp.com/web/diagram/share-ethernet-hpna.asp

I haven't setup FIOS , but for "regular DSL/ Cable" normally, you would
buy/get a router. The DSL/ Cable plugs into one jack on the BOX and the
other cable goes to router - into the " NETWORK" RJ45 connection, and
then the PC's plug into the router. The router works to isolate your pc
from the public internet. THEN you can share files ( via that router).
The router would have an address of say 192.168.1.1 and if it is
assigning the network numbers ( via DHCP option in its setup), the PC's
might be 192.168.1.100 and 192.168.1.101.

So the router would get an address of 25.25.1.1 from the Verizon
server - that 's the PUBLIC address. BUT in your house if you have a
router, it breaks that connection into a local network ( your house
only - with an address of 192.168.1.1) and the public internet
25.25.1.1. When your PC's data gets sent, it has the address of
25.25.1.1 to " the rest of the world"

Network-wise think of "your side of the router". Its address just like
the phone network.
In this case think of 192 like the area code , then 168 like the city
code , so all 3 of these addresses would be on the same network. .
Let's assume that you are on the pc with an adrress of 192.168.1.100 and
want to connect to the PC with an address of 192.168.1.101. To have
each PC see the other, you'd need to turn on file-sharing AND have the
router setup to allow these PC's to talk. The router would see an
incoming request that needs to go to 192.168.1.101 and since it knows
that that address is assigned to a pc plugged into - port 2 it would
send the data along and vice-versa. WITHOUT a router, the FIOS BOX may
just send each connection's data to the home office - at 25.25.1.1 and
THAT server has no clue where the pc's are located - because it's at
your house ( on the OTHER side of the router ( which is hidden from the
world). 192.168.1.100 , and 101 etc do not exist at Verizon - only in
your house.

So look over the network diagrams above .
Check to see " what is the verizon box"? is it a router, a switch or
merely a DSL modem ?
For specific help with how you're setup:
Reply this message ( to open a window) , THEN on each PC, do this:

Start- Run - type CMD then hit Enter.
At the black DOS window, type IPCONFIG / ALL
now in the upper left corner of that black box , click on the "tiny C:\"
then go down to EDIT - then - Select All - then hit ENTER ( that copies
all of the info into memory). Now come back to the new mail window and
right-click - PASTE - that pastes all of the IPCONFIG info into the
email. Or you could create a new text message and save the data in there
to have it later.

Do it for the other PC too . and then paste all of the data into the
reply. We will then be able to see how each PC is currently setup.
As for the router ( if you have one), check the manual, but usually you
just open internet explorer and type 192.168.1.1 and you may get a login
prompt ( see manual for password). If not you will the see "config
info" - particular for that modem, so I'm not sure of what info you'll
see on your model.

Bobb

 

[Guest]

I've got two computers that I'm trying to network together and connect
to the internet. My internet connection is Verizons new FIOS system. The
connection to FIOS is a pair of Ethertnet jacks on their interface box.
I've
got the two FIOS jacks connected to the single Ethernet jacks that came
standard on the back of each computer. My connection to the Internet
appears to be working fine.

My problem is the connection between computers. I have a Network
Ethernet PCI Card plugged into each of the computers. I have the PCI Cards
connected with an Ethernet cable. I am using the book "Windows XP
Inside-Out" published by Microsoft Corp. Using the network setup wizard I
get the result "Cannot Complete the Network Setup Wizard". There is also
sometimes a major discrepancy between the instructions that are given in the
book and what appears on the screen.

Any help would be appreciated.

Don J

Hello,
It may be possible to use a "cross-over cable" to connect two computers for
local network.
When I had a phone modem I was able to use two phone connections for
internet access "on the same line" one unit online at a time. I then used a
"crossover cable" to have the units networked.
I had a software firewall on both units that needed to be disabled or
reconfigured when I wanted to use the network.
The reason I bring this up it seems that you may have two online connections
and no interface between the units.
Verizon should have network information.
If you resolve the issue please post your solution.
take care.
beamish.

 

[Guest]

Hello,
It may be possible to use a "cross-over cable" to connect two computers for
local network.
When I had a phone modem I was able to use two phone connections for
internet access "on the same line" one unit online at a time. I then used a
"crossover cable" to have the units networked.
I had a software firewall on both units that needed to be disabled or
reconfigured when I wanted to use the network.
The reason I bring this up it seems that you may have two online connections
and no interface between the units.
Verizon should have network information.
If you resolve the issue please post your solution.
take care.
beamish.

Hello, Found this on the Verizon site.
On the date of your installation, a Verizon professional will come to your
home and install Verizon FiOS Internet Service. They will need access to your
home computer and will perform the following:
Install special data wiring to your computer. If necessary, they will
install any required wall jacks.
Install the Verizon home networking router and software.
Get you connected to the Internet.
Migrate any voice services on the current billing account to the Verizon
FiOS network. There is no additional cost for this, and it will not affect
your current monthly charges.
Provide a Verizon FiOS Welcome Kit with information about your FiOS
connection, Verizon Central and online services.
What if I want to connect more than one computer?

If this is a new FiOS installation, you will receive a FREE wireless home
networking router with your FiOS Internet Service. Existing FiOS TV customers
will use the wireless router provided with their FiOS TV service.

The wireless router allows you to connect up to 4 computers through the four
wired ports, and/or additional computers without wires. This mean that you
can use a combination or wired and wireless networking for multiple computers.

For each computer that you connect wirelessly, you will need the appropriate
wireless adapter. During installation, you will have the option of selecting
wireless adapters.

take care.
beamish.

 

[Talahassee]

I've got two computers that I'm trying to network together and connect
to the internet. My internet connection is Verizons new FIOS system. The
connection to FIOS is a pair of Ethertnet jacks on their interface box.
I've
got the two FIOS jacks connected to the single Ethernet jacks that came
standard on the back of each computer. My connection to the Internet
appears to be working fine.

My problem is the connection between computers. I have a Network
Ethernet PCI Card plugged into each of the computers. I have the PCI Cards
connected with an Ethernet cable. I am using the book "Windows XP
Inside-Out" published by Microsoft Corp. Using the network setup wizard I
get the result "Cannot Complete the Network Setup Wizard". There is also
sometimes a major discrepancy between the instructions that are given in the
book and what appears on the screen.

Do you want the two computers to talk to each other?

That is, do you want Computer 1 to appear on Computer 2, and vice
versa?

Or do you merely want to be able to plug Computer 1 into the Internet
access and then plug Computer 2 into the Internet as well?

They are two separate issues.

I told my provider that (my local phone company is also my ISP), and
they provided me a multi-purpose modem. It has 5 Ethernet jacks on it
besides the jack that connects the phone line to the modem. I simply
connect both computers to the modem in jacks #1 and #2 and they serve
2 purposes. They make both computers connect DIRECTLY to the Internet,
AND to each other!

You simply need the right equipment.

And the software.

My modem came with modem installation software, AND with network
software. Two different processes.


Good luck! And let us / me know how it worked out.

Tallahassee

 

[no_one]

I have the FIOS and I was given a new 4 port router as part of the install.
The WAN port of the router connects to verizon's FIOS interface box and all
my computers plug into one of the router LAN ports. What are the IP
addresses of the two computers (are the fist three sets of numbers the
same?)? For example my computer is 192.168.0.2 and all the other computers
on my home network are 192.168.0.x where x is a number between three and
254. Means that all the computers are on the same subnet on the network
(this is a good thing). Can both computers access the internet at will? If
you go to Start||Settings|Network Connections do you see an icon that is
labelled something like Local Area Connection 1? If you right click on it
you should click on Properties and then see a list that includes File and
Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks; this should be clicked. You then
need to expressly share each disk that you want to see on the other
computer. From My Computer, right click on a disk that you want to share
and click on Sharing and Security. This will give a dire warniing about
sharing this device and let you proceed with the operation. When done that
disk will be visible from Network neigborhood. (God Willing)

Let us know if this helps.