Hoftix needed

G

Guest

I need the atapi version 5.1.2600.1211 i386 hotfix described in knowledbase
article ID 817472. It says contact MS support but I have no timely option for
doing that at this time. Does anyone here have it or know how to get it?
 
M

Miss Perspicacia Tick

Dana said:
I need the atapi version 5.1.2600.1211 i386 hotfix described in
knowledbase article ID 817472. It says contact MS support but I have
no timely option for doing that at this time. Does anyone here have
it or know how to get it?


Are people becoming illiterate? The only way to obtain it is to contact MS
support. Why on *earth* should anyone here have it?! This is a peer-to-peer
newsgroup, not MS support.

The article tells you how to obtain it - if you cannot - or do not wish
to - obtain it in that manner, then you'll just have to do without. Why
can't you call them?
 
G

Guest

Thank You.

Contacting MS support seems to be out of the question at this hour.
If YOU had read the support options you would know that phone support is not
available now.

If anyone here *had* already contacted support for this fix, they may
actually decide to email me the file or something.
 
G

Guest

I thought this was a "help and support" forum...

Besides, contacting MS support is not the only way to get the fix. HP has
posted it on their support site, but I cannot extract the HP SP fix because I
do not have HP hardware.
 
J

Jerry

It is a 'Help and Support' forum - but only from other users. Try doing a
Google search to see if it is available somewhere else.
 
R

Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers

The only option, timely or not, is to do as directed in the article and
contact Microsoft Product Support.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
 
G

Guest

I see no reason for the hostility. Perhaps what you really mean to imply is
that somehow I am using unlicensed software, and would not be able to get the
patch from support anyway. I didn't think of that before. My dilemma is
that the automated support options page told me that my product key for my
OEM windows xp pro is supported by my vendor or manufacturer; what a joke.
Its a homebuilt system from a little mom&pop hardware vendor (I call it my
Taiwan connection) dfi mobo. I didn't know that an OEM windows XP pro would
prevent me from having direct MS support online as I filled out the forms.
What a pain. So I see that phone support has limited hours. No go for now.
I've already spent a couple days researching this problem, trying all the
suggested fixes, trying to find how & why my setup is vulnerable to the
problem. Knowing that a patch is likely to address the problem, and then
being unable to obtain it NOW is a huge disappointment. If anyone asked me
for a driver or a hotfix, I would to give, not sell, it to them if I had it.
I don't really expect that by itself, it is going to somehow deprive anyone
of any revenue.
 
G

Guest

Thanks very much. Unfortunately, that and many other suggested workarounds
and fixes have not solved my problem. I wish I knew why atapi.sys is
encountering a delayed response from my drive, which causes it to step back
the ATA access mode to multiword DMA 2, in my case. It does not seem to be
a result of any drive/hardware problem. It turns out my DVD-ROM runs UDMA
mode 2 off the same controller. I just bought a new drive and transferred
the whole system using Western Digital's drive copy to set up the new drive.
And the new drive, ATA-100, 7200 rpm, 8MB cache, defect-free according to
SMART and WD low-level testing, also runs multiword DMA 2. (darn) So I wonder
if it is a result of some flaw in my OS setup, or some particular arrangement
of the files, whatever. Then again, perhaps MS posts a hotfix because they
are not finding the problem either? I wish they would make the fix
downloadable now. This is torturing me.
 
J

Jupiter Jones [MVP]

Dana;
Contacting Microsoft for the fix is the best source.
Having someone Email it to you is a bad idea unless you personally know and
trust them.
It would not be the first time someone sent a Trojan or other malware in the
guise of a fix.

Contact Microsoft as explained in the article.
State you are calling about a hotfix and you will not be asked for any
payment information.
Contact Microsoft tomorrow and get the correct fix from the reliable source.
 
J

Jupiter Jones [MVP]

Dana;
Not in the sense you are thinking.
This particular newsgroup is intended to help with issues related the "Help
and Support" feature of Windows found when you click the start button.
It has the blue circle with white question mark.
 
D

D.Currie

Dana said:
I see no reason for the hostility.

Didn't seem hostile to me. He's just telling you that there's no secret
hiding place for that type of hitfix, and that you'll have to wait until you
can call MS to get it.

Perhaps what you really mean to imply is
that somehow I am using unlicensed software, and would not be able to get
the
patch from support anyway.

Oh, I doubt that. Usually if someone suspects that, they come right out and
say it, they don't use codewords to inply it.

I didn't think of that before. My dilemma is
that the automated support options page told me that my product key for my
OEM windows xp pro is supported by my vendor or manufacturer; what a joke.

Well, no, that's the licensing agreement MS has with OEMs. Because OEM
software is so much cheaper for the OEM, the OEM must agree to supply
technical support for the product in return for the cheaper price.
Its a homebuilt system from a little mom&pop hardware vendor (I call it my
Taiwan connection) dfi mobo. I didn't know that an OEM windows XP pro
would
prevent me from having direct MS support online as I filled out the forms.

Well, that's one of the main differences between OEM and retail software.
The OEM has to support the OEM software. It's like all the other things that
you buy OEM that you don't realize. Like if the transmission on your car
goes bad. You go to the car manufacturer because they are the OEM and they
are supposed to support all of the parts they used to build the car. It
probably would never occur to you to call the maker of the transmission to
ask them to fix it, even if you knew who made it. And if you did call them,
they'd send you to Ford or Chevy or whoever, just like MS is telling you to
contact your OEM.
What a pain. So I see that phone support has limited hours. No go for
now.
I've already spent a couple days researching this problem, trying all the
suggested fixes, trying to find how & why my setup is vulnerable to the
problem. Knowing that a patch is likely to address the problem, and then
being unable to obtain it NOW is a huge disappointment. If anyone asked
me
for a driver or a hotfix, I would to give, not sell, it to them if I had
it.

The chances of some random user on a newgroup having exactly the hotfix you
need is slim to none. It's not like it's some common file that everyone has,
it's a fix for a specific and rare problem and MS hasn't made the fix public
yet because they're still investigating it. There's a much greater chance
that some random goofball will send you something that looks like a hotfix
but is actually some sort of interesting virus. Me, I wouldn't trust it.
I don't really expect that by itself, it is going to somehow deprive
anyone
of any revenue.

Has nothing to do with revenue, unless some random weirdo is offering to
sell you something that should be free. In which case, I'd really suspect a
virus of some sort.

When the support lines open, you just need to call, tell them that you need
that hotfix for that particular problem, don't ask for anything else, and
they won't charge you.
 
R

Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers

Hi Dana,

No hostility is intended in any way, shape, or form. Nor did I try to imply
that you were using illegal software. The statement is meant to convey that
there is only one proper way to obtain a supported hotfix. There aren't
workarounds to this, and it's for a couple of reasons. One is that you
should *only* get a hotfix from the proper source - these are supported
hotfixes, but may cause other issues as they are not regression tested. If
you get an altered hotfix from another source, it may do even more damage
than what you are dealing with now. Also, the very fact that this is a
hotfix also means that Microsoft *must* determine that you do in fact need
this particular hotfix since they must support it.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Associate Expert - WindowsXP Expert Zone

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
 
G

Guest

Are you using an 80 wire cable?

--
Just my 2¢ worth,
Jeff
__________In response to__________
| Thanks very much. Unfortunately, that and many other suggested workarounds
| and fixes have not solved my problem. I wish I knew why atapi.sys is
| encountering a delayed response from my drive, which causes it to step back
| the ATA access mode to multiword DMA 2, in my case. It does not seem to be
| a result of any drive/hardware problem. It turns out my DVD-ROM runs UDMA
| mode 2 off the same controller. I just bought a new drive and transferred
| the whole system using Western Digital's drive copy to set up the new drive.
| And the new drive, ATA-100, 7200 rpm, 8MB cache, defect-free according to
| SMART and WD low-level testing, also runs multiword DMA 2. (darn) So I wonder
| if it is a result of some flaw in my OS setup, or some particular arrangement
| of the files, whatever. Then again, perhaps MS posts a hotfix because they
| are not finding the problem either? I wish they would make the fix
| downloadable now. This is torturing me.
 

Ask a Question

Want to reply to this thread or ask your own question?

You'll need to choose a username for the site, which only take a couple of moments. After that, you can post your question and our members will help you out.

Ask a Question

Top