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[BillW50]

In Happy Oyster typed on Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:30:33 +0100:

The important point is: such a mess is a) totally inneccessary and b)
a means of warfare. If you lose a HDD you COULD easily exchange it,
but the OS insists on the old one - and as it does not get it goes
berserk and spoils your installation. That is an attack on MY
computer which I consider criminal. And it is M$ which commits that
crime.

This is actually very easy to deal with. Either change the disk
signature or use a Windows 98 Startup disk and use FDISK /MBR, which
resets the disk signature.

 

[BillW50]

In Happy Oyster typed on Wed, 12 Aug 2009 01:10:30 +0100:

Very simple: M$ chose to push another madness onto the market: A HDD
has to be "accepted". A HDD gets an individual number. AFTER that it
can be accessed.

Exchanging HDDs can be very complicated because of these "signatures".

Don't ask me for the details, please. I NEVER deal with that stuff.
When a shitty OS wants to make such things, I kill it.

And you are fine with one Linux stomping on another Linux install, eh?

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However, you don't need to be dual booting with Windows to court
disaster. Dual booting with several versions of GNU/Linux can lead to
boot problems too. At best, only one version will boot-or worse, none
and you may find yourself googling furiously to understand terse and
cryptic GRUB error messages. Sometimes, boot sectors (including
partition tables) can just get corrupted for no discernable reason at
all. Whatever the reason, you need to prepare for all eventualities as
GRUB (GRand Universal Bootloader) does not make a copy of the MBR during
installation.

http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/backing_up_your_master_boot_record

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[Happy Oyster]

In Happy Oyster typed on Wed, 12 Aug 2009 10:30:33 +0100:

This is actually very easy to deal with. Either change the disk
signature or use a Windows 98 Startup disk and use FDISK /MBR, which
resets the disk signature.

No. If you take the HDD into another Windows computer, it messes up the
signature stuff etc. If you put the HDD back in the original computer the
signature stuff etc is manipulated and will led to trouble with the old OS which
claims that THIS is not ITS HDD anymore.

 

[Happy Oyster]

In Happy Oyster typed on Wed, 12 Aug 2009 01:10:30 +0100:

And you are fine with one Linux stomping on another Linux install, eh?
?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

However, you don't need to be dual booting with Windows to court
disaster. Dual booting with several versions of GNU/Linux can lead to
boot problems too. At best, only one version will boot-or worse, none
and you may find yourself googling furiously to understand terse and
cryptic GRUB error messages. Sometimes, boot sectors (including
partition tables) can just get corrupted for no discernable reason at
all. Whatever the reason, you need to prepare for all eventualities as
GRUB (GRand Universal Bootloader) does not make a copy of the MBR during
installation.

http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/columns/backing_up_your_master_boot_record

The problem is even worse. Those idiots who make the update stuff online, are so
braindead that they change things in the installation which will lead to a
kernel reorganization - which will lead to programs (like VMware) being unable
to run, because their base part in the kernel is ruined.

Another fine joke by the idiots is to - by the means of the automatic online
updating - spoil the GRUB entries.


To avoid the automatic update is a MUST!

 

[BillW50]

In Happy Oyster typed on Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:29:09 +0100:

No. If you take the HDD into another Windows computer, it messes up
the signature stuff etc. If you put the HDD back in the original
computer the signature stuff etc is manipulated and will led to
trouble with the old OS which claims that THIS is not ITS HDD anymore.

I have added removable drives on many Windows system and even IDE drives
set as cable select or slave and I never had seen this behavior. Or are
you talking about swapping boot/system drives among different computers?
If the latter, you screw them up pretty badly do to the wrong driver
set. Although if the machines are the same, you should have no problems.
I do that all of the time with my two Gateways and then with my 5 Asus
netbooks.

Oddly enough the Gateway MX6124 and the Asus EeePCs also uses the same
Intel chipset and video card. Might be close enough to restore one on to
the other without a problem. In fact, I should try that someday. It will
only take about 20 minutes to restore a copy to find out. <grin>

 

[BillW50]

In Happy Oyster typed on Thu, 13 Aug 2009 18:34:01 +0100:

The problem is even worse. Those idiots who make the update stuff
online, are so braindead that they change things in the installation
which will lead to a kernel reorganization - which will lead to
programs (like VMware) being unable to run, because their base part
in the kernel is ruined.

Another fine joke by the idiots is to - by the means of the automatic
online updating - spoil the GRUB entries.


To avoid the automatic update is a MUST!

Yeah I am not a big fan of automatic updates either. I usually test them
first on test machines and I am usually not that pleased with them
generally.

 

[BillW50]

In BillW50 typed on Thu, 13 Aug 2009 14:47:56 -0500:

Oddly enough the Gateway MX6124 and the Asus EeePCs also uses the same
Intel chipset and video card. Might be close enough to restore one on
to the other without a problem. In fact, I should try that someday.
It will only take about 20 minutes to restore a copy to find out.
<grin>

Nope it didn't work. Windows XP when attempting to boot, rebooted the
machine at this point repeatedly. Maybe I should try Paragon's Adaptive
Restore. Which is supposed to move Windows and applications to a
different machine and I might give that a shot. <grin>

 

[Happy Oyster]

Boy, you're the first person that seems to agree with me and puts it
in writing. I couldn't have said it better than you !!! I hate
the idea of updates that change things and I have no idea what they
change or how. I hate to burst your bubble tho, I think you and I
are in the minority but thanks for letting me know I'm not
the only person on Earth who thinks this way.

A computer is a tool. On such a tool we depend. Many ran into terrible problems
when they - at the very last moment - tried to print their study work for
graduation in university ... and that M$ crap spoiled not only the printout but
the whole file they had worked on for months or years.

A computer is not toy, it is a tool which, if it fails, can have desastrous
consequences for us. The damage IN NO WAY can be compensated by some few bucks
of, say, the price tag in the shop.

Year for year the damage caused by miserable software is billions of dollars.

 

[Happy Oyster]

I can't and won't argue that but as long as we are on the subject of a
tool, can you correct your clock as you are a bit ahead unless you are
trying to top post <grin>.

Each time I try that some braindead idiot on the Linux side smashes it.

There is one of these "automagical" mysteries the Linux folks are so proud of
which each time resets my manual change...

I hate machines which think.