help! huge problem with XP and HD

[sauzer]

hi all, i have a very big problem.

i have 3 maxtor 200gb hd on xp PRO, and all of them partitioned with
partition magic.

yesterday i was installing xp pro on another partition, after it installed i
realized that neither the new OS nor the old one recognized one HD. the
strange thing is that the same exact thing happened last time i installed
XP, it totally stopped recognizing one HD back then too. and the data in it
arent lost... because if i use r-studio and scan the whole HD i can see all
the partitions/files and recover them (but it takes a lot of time!). so i
think that XP during installation does something that prevents the OSs from
recognizing that HD.

also if i try to run partition magic i get the following error:
Error 90 EZ-drive has been detected on drive 2, but EZ-Drive is corrupt. Run
the EZ-Drive setup diskette to correct this problem. For EZ-Drive support
contact your EZ-Drive provider.

and i never installed any ez-drive.

so my question is... WHY is windows XP ruining my HD table? and WHAT can i
do to fix it? there must be a tool or something that fixes everything so im
able to see the HD and its partitions again... i dont want to copy over
150gb of data with r-studio every time i install XP.

thanks!

 

[Trax]

|>hi all, i have a very big problem.
|>
|>i have 3 maxtor 200gb hd on xp PRO, and all of them partitioned with
|>partition magic.
|>
|>yesterday i was installing xp pro on another partition, after it installed i
|>realized that neither the new OS nor the old one recognized one HD. the
|>strange thing is that the same exact thing happened last time i installed
|>XP, it totally stopped recognizing one HD back then too. and the data in it
|>arent lost... because if i use r-studio and scan the whole HD i can see all
|>the partitions/files and recover them (but it takes a lot of time!). so i
|>think that XP during installation does something that prevents the OSs from
|>recognizing that HD.
|>
|>also if i try to run partition magic i get the following error:
|>Error 90 EZ-drive has been detected on drive 2, but EZ-Drive is corrupt. Run
|>the EZ-Drive setup diskette to correct this problem. For EZ-Drive support
|>contact your EZ-Drive provider.
|>
|>and i never installed any ez-drive.

Then get rid of it, bootup with the old HD setup up disk that came
with the drive and remove ez-drive.

|>so my question is... WHY is windows XP ruining my HD table? and WHAT can i
|>do to fix it? there must be a tool or something that fixes everything so im
|>able to see the HD and its partitions again... i dont want to copy over
|>150gb of data with r-studio every time i install XP.
|>
|>thanks!
|>

 

[sauzer]

|>hi all, i have a very big problem.
|>
|>i have 3 maxtor 200gb hd on xp PRO, and all of them partitioned with
|>partition magic.
|>
|>yesterday i was installing xp pro on another partition, after it
installed i
|>realized that neither the new OS nor the old one recognized one HD. the
|>strange thing is that the same exact thing happened last time i
installed
|>XP, it totally stopped recognizing one HD back then too. and the data in
it
|>arent lost... because if i use r-studio and scan the whole HD i can see
all
|>the partitions/files and recover them (but it takes a lot of time!). so
i
|>think that XP during installation does something that prevents the OSs
from
|>recognizing that HD.
|>
|>also if i try to run partition magic i get the following error:
|>Error 90 EZ-drive has been detected on drive 2, but EZ-Drive is corrupt.
Run
|>the EZ-Drive setup diskette to correct this problem. For EZ-Drive
support
|>contact your EZ-Drive provider.
|>
|>and i never installed any ez-drive.

Then get rid of it, bootup with the old HD setup up disk that came
with the drive and remove ez-drive.

but im pretty sure there ISNT any ez-drive installed ever. what i dont
understand is why during XP installation something happens that my 3rd HD
isnt detected anymore. and i suspect it might have something to do with
partition magic but i have no idea why.

i dont have enough knowledge about how XP handles the HD, but if the HD is
good, the data is there because r-studio sees it and can backup it, then why
does this happen?

 

[Trax]

|>|>>
|>> |>hi all, i have a very big problem.
|>> |>
|>> |>i have 3 maxtor 200gb hd on xp PRO, and all of them partitioned with
|>> |>partition magic.
|>> |>
|>> |>yesterday i was installing xp pro on another partition, after it
|>> installed i
|>> |>realized that neither the new OS nor the old one recognized one HD. the
|>> |>strange thing is that the same exact thing happened last time i
|>> installed
|>> |>XP, it totally stopped recognizing one HD back then too. and the data in
|>> it
|>> |>arent lost... because if i use r-studio and scan the whole HD i can see
|>> all
|>> |>the partitions/files and recover them (but it takes a lot of time!). so
|>> i
|>> |>think that XP during installation does something that prevents the OSs
|>> from
|>> |>recognizing that HD.
|>> |>
|>> |>also if i try to run partition magic i get the following error:
|>> |>Error 90 EZ-drive has been detected on drive 2, but EZ-Drive is corrupt.
|>> Run
|>> |>the EZ-Drive setup diskette to correct this problem. For EZ-Drive
|>> support
|>> |>contact your EZ-Drive provider.
|>> |>
|>> |>and i never installed any ez-drive.
|>>
|>> Then get rid of it, bootup with the old HD setup up disk that came
|>> with the drive and remove ez-drive.
|>
|>but im pretty sure there ISNT any ez-drive installed ever. what i dont
|>understand is why during XP installation something happens that my 3rd HD
|>isnt detected anymore. and i suspect it might have something to do with
|>partition magic but i have no idea why.

Long time ago Some installations of windows couldn't see a HD format'd
with PM, I haven't heard of it happening in a long while.

Ez-drive is a program allowing older bios the ability to read large
drives, it's sits in the master boot record, and is of no use to you
now; and removing it might help.

|>i dont have enough knowledge about how XP handles the HD, but if the HD is
|>good, the data is there because r-studio sees it and can backup it, then why
|>does this happen?

Just the basics make sure the Cables to the drive and MoBo are in good
shape and connections are tight.

Right click on "My computer", manage, and see if you can set up the
drive in the disk management.

Boot up with the XP CD and run FIXMBR for the drive your having
problems with.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;314058

Good luck.

 

[Trax]

|>
|>Boot up with the XP CD and run FIXMBR for the drive your having
|>problems with.
|>http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;314058

A warning about doing this: http://tinyurl.com/2cg2u

"If an invalid or nonstandard partition table signature is detected,
you will be prompted whether you want to continue. If you are not
having problems accessing your drives, you should not continue.
Writing a new master boot record to your system partition could damage
your partition tables and cause your partitions to become
inaccessible."

 

[sauzer]

Long time ago Some installations of windows couldn't see a HD format'd
with PM, I haven't heard of it happening in a long while.

it seems it happened something like that... altho in my case even the old
installation cant see that HD (but of course i can see it on bios and with
r-studio).

Ez-drive is a program allowing older bios the ability to read large
drives, it's sits in the master boot record, and is of no use to you
now; and removing it might help.

excuse me for the question... is the mbr on the boot HD only? because the HD
im having problem with now is the 2nd one.

Right click on "My computer", manage, and see if you can set up the
drive in the disk management.

yes i can see it, but it appears as "unallocated". at the same time im
actually scanning it with r-studio and it can see all the
partitions/dirs/files.

Boot up with the XP CD and run FIXMBR for the drive your having
problems with.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;314058

i think im going to wait r-studio to scan the whole hd and then copy all the
files on the 2 other ones (sigh, gonna be so slow to recover 100+ gb) and
then try that and see if it fixes the 2nd HD.

what i really hate is that if i reinstall XP this problem will probably
happen again and i dont know why. :/

Good luck.

thanks a lot for your help!

 

[Trax]

|>|>> Long time ago Some installations of windows couldn't see a HD format'd
|>> with PM, I haven't heard of it happening in a long while.
|>
|>it seems it happened something like that... altho in my case even the old
|>installation cant see that HD (but of course i can see it on bios and with
|>r-studio).
|>
|>> Ez-drive is a program allowing older bios the ability to read large
|>> drives, it's sits in the master boot record, and is of no use to you
|>> now; and removing it might help.
|>
|>excuse me for the question... is the mbr on the boot HD only? because the HD
|>im having problem with now is the 2nd one.
|>
|>> Right click on "My computer", manage, and see if you can set up the
|>> drive in the disk management.
|>
|>yes i can see it, but it appears as "unallocated". at the same time im
|>actually scanning it with r-studio and it can see all the
|>partitions/dirs/files.

All HD's have a MBR it contains the partition table for one, and
seeing the disk appears "unallocated" your's could certainly be bad.

r-studio doesn't operate by the partition table, but by reading the
sectors of the hard drive.

|>> Boot up with the XP CD and run FIXMBR for the drive your having
|>> problems with.
|>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;314058

|>i think im going to wait r-studio to scan the whole hd and then copy all the
|>files on the 2 other ones (sigh, gonna be so slow to recover 100+ gb) and
|>then try that and see if it fixes the 2nd HD.

That would be a very good idea, then try FIXMBR on that drive, and see
if it brings it around.

|>what i really hate is that if i reinstall XP this problem will probably
|>happen again and i dont know why. :/
|>
|>> Good luck.
|>thanks a lot for your help!
|>

 

[Andy]

it seems it happened something like that... altho in my case even the old
installation cant see that HD (but of course i can see it on bios and with
r-studio).


excuse me for the question... is the mbr on the boot HD only? because the HD
im having problem with now is the 2nd one.


yes i can see it, but it appears as "unallocated". at the same time im
actually scanning it with r-studio and it can see all the
partitions/dirs/files.


i think im going to wait r-studio to scan the whole hd and then copy all the
files on the 2 other ones (sigh, gonna be so slow to recover 100+ gb) and
then try that and see if it fixes the 2nd HD.

what i really hate is that if i reinstall XP this problem will probably
happen again and i dont know why. :/

Instead of Partition Magic, use XP's Disk Management to delete and
recreate new partitions on the problem disk.

 

[DL]

I have frequently seen problems when people have used PM to set up their
disk structure prior to installing Win2k / Winxp.
Use the Win set up to set the hd structure prior to installing Win.
Once Win installed there doesnt appear to be many problems caused by 'then'
using PM to adjust the structure.

 

[Keith]

hi all, i have a very big problem.

i have 3 maxtor 200gb hd on xp PRO, and all of them partitioned with
partition magic.

yesterday i was installing xp pro on another partition, after it
installed i realized that neither the new OS nor the old one
recognized one HD. the strange thing is that the same exact thing
happened last time i installed XP, it totally stopped recognizing one
HD back then too. and the data in it arent lost... because if i use
r-studio and scan the whole HD i can see all the partitions/files and
recover them (but it takes a lot of time!). so i think that XP during
installation does something that prevents the OSs from recognizing
that HD.
also if i try to run partition magic i get the following error:
Error 90 EZ-drive has been detected on drive 2, but EZ-Drive is
corrupt. Run the EZ-Drive setup diskette to correct this problem. For
EZ-Drive support contact your EZ-Drive provider.

and i never installed any ez-drive.

so my question is... WHY is windows XP ruining my HD table? and WHAT
can i do to fix it? there must be a tool or something that fixes
everything so im able to see the HD and its partitions again... i
dont want to copy over 150gb of data with r-studio every time i
install XP.
thanks!

STOP blaming XP . Use the tools provided in Disk Management , and forget the
3rd party crap.

 

[Tim Slattery]

what do you mean with "use the win set up to set the hd structure"?

If you boot from the WinXP CD, you will be able to delete and create
whatever partitions you want to. Once that's done, you can install XP
on any partition.

 

[sauzer]

I have frequently seen problems when people have used PM to set up their
disk structure prior to installing Win2k / Winxp.
Use the Win set up to set the hd structure prior to installing Win.
Once Win installed there doesnt appear to be many problems caused by
'then'
using PM to adjust the structure

what do you mean with "use the win set up to set the hd structure"?

 

[sauzer]

STOP blaming XP . Use the tools provided in Disk Management , and forget
the 3rd party crap.

sorry but thats bs!
1 - XP worked fine for over a year dealing with those HDs modified with
partition magic. if XP doesnt like what PM does to the HDs then there
should have been plenty of problems, but thats not the case. everything
worked fine. the problems only started DURING the installation so YES i
would say its XP to blame since this shit only happens during an
installation.
2 - there are changes that disk management cant do and PM can. so disk
management isnt always a viable solution.
3 - apparently there are lots of people that during installation totally
remove the HDs and connect them again later. you going to blame 3rd party
crap for this as well? or maybe XP HAS some problems?