Help - Email Addresses in Distribution Lists Messed Up

S

SB

I had two 100 name distribution lists in Outlook Express; when all data was
transferred to new computer with VISTA, the lists were all messed up.
Appears Windows Mail removes anywhere from the 1st three letters from the
addresses. I seems to fix those I know what the real address should be but
they keep changing (& getting between 50 & 100 undeliverables) - very
frsutrating to say the least. What's up?
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

How did you "transfer" this data from OE to Windows Contacts?

Does you current ISP allow one (1) message to be sent to more than fifty
(50) addresses?
 
S

SB

Hired someone to transfer all info. No problems sending to distribution
lists in Outlook Express (had it as one group, then split up into two 6 plus
months ago). IMore concerned about Windows mail changing the addresses (I've
corrected some addresses three times & it keeps dropping off first 1, 2, or 3
letters of the address). Would using Oultook vs. Windows mail be a potential
solution.
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

If you hired someone to do the work, you'll need to ask that person to
answer my question about how the data was migrated.

And you'll still need to answer my other question if I'm to help you. No
further discussion until you do so.
 
G

Gary VanderMolen

There's a good chance that the person you hired used a method that
corrupted the contacts.
 
S

SB

Sent message to computer man - waiting for response. So, what is the
proper/correct procedure for transferring distribution lists from Outlook
Express to Windows Mail (in case I have to do it myself)?

ISP - 50 emails messages/hour. Honestly, never had issues sending to two
100 address lists until I switched to Windows Mail a month ago.

PA Bear said:
[Bingo! Give the man a cigar!]

Gary said:
There's a good chance that the person you hired used a method that
corrupted the contacts.
 
G

Gary VanderMolen

Someone who knows OE better than me will have to give you a more definitive
answer, but I believe the OE .wab file contains the contacts as well as any
distribution lists. So it would just be a matter of importing that .wab file into
Windows Mail.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/VanderMolen


SB said:
Sent message to computer man - waiting for response. So, what is the
proper/correct procedure for transferring distribution lists from Outlook
Express to Windows Mail (in case I have to do it myself)?

ISP - 50 emails messages/hour. Honestly, never had issues sending to two
100 address lists until I switched to Windows Mail a month ago.

PA Bear said:
[Bingo! Give the man a cigar!]

Gary said:
There's a good chance that the person you hired used a method that
corrupted the contacts.


Hired someone to transfer all info. No problems sending to distribution
lists in Outlook Express (had it as one group, then split up into two 6
plus months ago). IMore concerned about Windows mail changing the
addresses (I've corrected some addresses three times & it keeps dropping
off first 1, 2, or 3 letters of the address). Would using Oultook vs.
Windows mail be a potential solution.

:

How did you "transfer" this data from OE to Windows Contacts?

Does you current ISP allow one (1) message to be sent to more than fifty
(50) addresses?


SB wrote:
I had two 100 name distribution lists in Outlook Express; when all data
was
transferred to new computer with VISTA, the lists were all messed up.
Appears Windows Mail removes anywhere from the 1st three letters from
the
addresses. I seems to fix those I know what the real address should be
but
they keep changing (& getting between 50 & 100 undeliverables) - very
frsutrating to say the least. What's up?
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

[OE/Address Book Groups will neither export nor import.]

Gary said:
Someone who knows OE better than me will have to give you a more
definitive
answer, but I believe the OE .wab file contains the contacts as well as
any
distribution lists. So it would just be a matter of importing that .wab
file into
Windows Mail.


SB said:
Sent message to computer man - waiting for response. So, what is the
proper/correct procedure for transferring distribution lists from Outlook
Express to Windows Mail (in case I have to do it myself)?

ISP - 50 emails messages/hour. Honestly, never had issues sending to two
100 address lists until I switched to Windows Mail a month ago.

PA Bear said:
[Bingo! Give the man a cigar!]

Gary VanderMolen wrote:
There's a good chance that the person you hired used a method that
corrupted the contacts.


Hired someone to transfer all info. No problems sending to
distribution
lists in Outlook Express (had it as one group, then split up into two
6
plus months ago). IMore concerned about Windows mail changing the
addresses (I've corrected some addresses three times & it keeps
dropping
off first 1, 2, or 3 letters of the address). Would using Oultook vs.
Windows mail be a potential solution.

:

How did you "transfer" this data from OE to Windows Contacts?

Does you current ISP allow one (1) message to be sent to more than
fifty (50) addresses?


SB wrote:
I had two 100 name distribution lists in Outlook Express; when all
data was
transferred to new computer with VISTA, the lists were all messed
up.
Appears Windows Mail removes anywhere from the 1st three letters
from
the
addresses. I seems to fix those I know what the real address should
be but
they keep changing (& getting between 50 & 100 undeliverables) -
very
frsutrating to say the least. What's up?
 
G

Gary VanderMolen

So importing from .wab has no advantage over importing from .csv?

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/VanderMolen


PA Bear said:
[OE/Address Book Groups will neither export nor import.]

Gary said:
Someone who knows OE better than me will have to give you a more
definitive
answer, but I believe the OE .wab file contains the contacts as well as
any
distribution lists. So it would just be a matter of importing that ..wab
file into
Windows Mail.


SB said:
Sent message to computer man - waiting for response. So, what is the
proper/correct procedure for transferring distribution lists from Outlook
Express to Windows Mail (in case I have to do it myself)?

ISP - 50 emails messages/hour. Honestly, never had issues sending to two
100 address lists until I switched to Windows Mail a month ago.

:

[Bingo! Give the man a cigar!]

Gary VanderMolen wrote:
There's a good chance that the person you hired used a method that
corrupted the contacts.


Hired someone to transfer all info. No problems sending to
distribution
lists in Outlook Express (had it as one group, then split up into two
6
plus months ago). IMore concerned about Windows mail changing the
addresses (I've corrected some addresses three times & it keeps
dropping
off first 1, 2, or 3 letters of the address). Would using Oultook vs.
Windows mail be a potential solution.

:

How did you "transfer" this data from OE to Windows Contacts?

Does you current ISP allow one (1) message to be sent to more than
fifty (50) addresses?


SB wrote:
I had two 100 name distribution lists in Outlook Express; when all
data was
transferred to new computer with VISTA, the lists were all messed
up.
Appears Windows Mail removes anywhere from the 1st three letters
from
the
addresses. I seems to fix those I know what the real address should
be but
they keep changing (& getting between 50 & 100 undeliverables) -
very
frsutrating to say the least. What's up?
 
S

SB

Basically I'm out of luck (total bummer) - maybe I'll try importing from OE
to full version of Outlook.

Gary VanderMolen said:
So importing from .wab has no advantage over importing from .csv?

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/VanderMolen


PA Bear said:
[OE/Address Book Groups will neither export nor import.]

Gary said:
Someone who knows OE better than me will have to give you a more
definitive
answer, but I believe the OE .wab file contains the contacts as well as
any
distribution lists. So it would just be a matter of importing that ..wab
file into
Windows Mail.


Sent message to computer man - waiting for response. So, what is the
proper/correct procedure for transferring distribution lists from Outlook
Express to Windows Mail (in case I have to do it myself)?

ISP - 50 emails messages/hour. Honestly, never had issues sending to two
100 address lists until I switched to Windows Mail a month ago.

:

[Bingo! Give the man a cigar!]

Gary VanderMolen wrote:
There's a good chance that the person you hired used a method that
corrupted the contacts.


Hired someone to transfer all info. No problems sending to
distribution
lists in Outlook Express (had it as one group, then split up into two
6
plus months ago). IMore concerned about Windows mail changing the
addresses (I've corrected some addresses three times & it keeps
dropping
off first 1, 2, or 3 letters of the address). Would using Oultook vs.
Windows mail be a potential solution.

:

How did you "transfer" this data from OE to Windows Contacts?

Does you current ISP allow one (1) message to be sent to more than
fifty (50) addresses?


SB wrote:
I had two 100 name distribution lists in Outlook Express; when all
data was
transferred to new computer with VISTA, the lists were all messed
up.
Appears Windows Mail removes anywhere from the 1st three letters
from
the
addresses. I seems to fix those I know what the real address should
be but
they keep changing (& getting between 50 & 100 undeliverables) -
very
frsutrating to say the least. What's up?
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

Exporting/Importing a WAB file will include Folders.


Gary said:
So importing from .wab has no advantage over importing from .csv?
[OE/Address Book Groups will neither export nor import.]

Gary said:
Someone who knows OE better than me will have to give you a more
definitive
answer, but I believe the OE .wab file contains the contacts as well as
any
distribution lists. So it would just be a matter of importing that .wab
file into
Windows Mail.


Sent message to computer man - waiting for response. So, what is the
proper/correct procedure for transferring distribution lists from
Outlook
Express to Windows Mail (in case I have to do it myself)?

ISP - 50 emails messages/hour. Honestly, never had issues sending to
two
100 address lists until I switched to Windows Mail a month ago.

:

[Bingo! Give the man a cigar!]

Gary VanderMolen wrote:
There's a good chance that the person you hired used a method that
corrupted the contacts.


Hired someone to transfer all info. No problems sending to
distribution
lists in Outlook Express (had it as one group, then split up into
two
6
plus months ago). IMore concerned about Windows mail changing the
addresses (I've corrected some addresses three times & it keeps
dropping
off first 1, 2, or 3 letters of the address). Would using Oultook
vs.
Windows mail be a potential solution.

:

How did you "transfer" this data from OE to Windows Contacts?

Does you current ISP allow one (1) message to be sent to more than
fifty (50) addresses?


SB wrote:
I had two 100 name distribution lists in Outlook Express; when all
data was
transferred to new computer with VISTA, the lists were all messed
up.
Appears Windows Mail removes anywhere from the 1st three letters
from
the
addresses. I seems to fix those I know what the real address
should
be but
they keep changing (& getting between 50 & 100 undeliverables) -
very
frsutrating to say the least. What's up?
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

If you want to import the data into OL, you'll need to export OE contacts to
a CSV file...which will not include Groups or Folders.

Basically I'm out of luck (total bummer) - maybe I'll try importing from
OE
to full version of Outlook.

Gary VanderMolen said:
So importing from .wab has no advantage over importing from .csv?

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/VanderMolen


PA Bear said:
[OE/Address Book Groups will neither export nor import.]

Gary VanderMolen wrote:
Someone who knows OE better than me will have to give you a more
definitive
answer, but I believe the OE .wab file contains the contacts as well as
any
distribution lists. So it would just be a matter of importing that
..wab
file into
Windows Mail.


Sent message to computer man - waiting for response. So, what is the
proper/correct procedure for transferring distribution lists from
Outlook Express to Windows Mail (in case I have to do it myself)?

ISP - 50 emails messages/hour. Honestly, never had issues sending to
two 100 address lists until I switched to Windows Mail a month ago.

:

[Bingo! Give the man a cigar!]

Gary VanderMolen wrote:
There's a good chance that the person you hired used a method that
corrupted the contacts.


Hired someone to transfer all info. No problems sending to
distribution
lists in Outlook Express (had it as one group, then split up into
two
6
plus months ago). IMore concerned about Windows mail changing the
addresses (I've corrected some addresses three times & it keeps
dropping
off first 1, 2, or 3 letters of the address). Would using Oultook
vs. Windows mail be a potential solution.

:

How did you "transfer" this data from OE to Windows Contacts?

Does you current ISP allow one (1) message to be sent to more than
fifty (50) addresses?


SB wrote:
I had two 100 name distribution lists in Outlook Express; when
all
data was
transferred to new computer with VISTA, the lists were all messed
up.
Appears Windows Mail removes anywhere from the 1st three letters
from
the
addresses. I seems to fix those I know what the real address
should be but
they keep changing (& getting between 50 & 100 undeliverables) -
very
frsutrating to say the least. What's up?
 
P

Patrick Keenan

SB said:
I had two 100 name distribution lists in Outlook Express; when all data was
transferred to new computer with VISTA, the lists were all messed up.
Appears Windows Mail removes anywhere from the 1st three letters from the
addresses. I seems to fix those I know what the real address should be
but
they keep changing (& getting between 50 & 100 undeliverables) - very
frsutrating to say the least. What's up?

I can tell you that this is not a typical result. I regularly have to move
addresses between OE and WM. I don't get any of the results you describe.

Export the WAB from OE, move it to the Vista system, import it. Done.

There is a catch. If you used Folders in the Windows Address Book, they
are cast aside if you do any kind of exporting. Use Groups instead.

HTH
-pk
 
P

Patrick Keenan

PA Bear said:
[OE/Address Book Groups will neither export nor import.]

Actually folders don't, groups do.

I have a mailing list of over 1000 contacts that regularly has to be moved
from and OE system to a vista system. I learned long ago not to use
folders, and the groups and contacts come over just fine.

Export the wab, move it to the Vista machine, import it. It's easy.



Gary said:
Someone who knows OE better than me will have to give you a more
definitive
answer, but I believe the OE .wab file contains the contacts as well as
any
distribution lists. So it would just be a matter of importing that .wab
file into
Windows Mail.


SB said:
Sent message to computer man - waiting for response. So, what is the
proper/correct procedure for transferring distribution lists from
Outlook
Express to Windows Mail (in case I have to do it myself)?

ISP - 50 emails messages/hour. Honestly, never had issues sending to
two
100 address lists until I switched to Windows Mail a month ago.

:

[Bingo! Give the man a cigar!]

Gary VanderMolen wrote:
There's a good chance that the person you hired used a method that
corrupted the contacts.


Hired someone to transfer all info. No problems sending to
distribution
lists in Outlook Express (had it as one group, then split up into two
6
plus months ago). IMore concerned about Windows mail changing the
addresses (I've corrected some addresses three times & it keeps
dropping
off first 1, 2, or 3 letters of the address). Would using Oultook
vs.
Windows mail be a potential solution.

:

How did you "transfer" this data from OE to Windows Contacts?

Does you current ISP allow one (1) message to be sent to more than
fifty (50) addresses?


SB wrote:
I had two 100 name distribution lists in Outlook Express; when all
data was
transferred to new computer with VISTA, the lists were all messed
up.
Appears Windows Mail removes anywhere from the 1st three letters
from
the
addresses. I seems to fix those I know what the real address
should
be but
they keep changing (& getting between 50 & 100 undeliverables) -
very
frsutrating to say the least. What's up?
 
P

Patrick Keenan

PA Bear said:
Exporting/Importing a WAB file will include Folders.

That is the opposite to the result I get. Groups are maintained, folders
are cast aside.

-pk
Gary said:
So importing from .wab has no advantage over importing from .csv?
[OE/Address Book Groups will neither export nor import.]

Gary VanderMolen wrote:
Someone who knows OE better than me will have to give you a more
definitive
answer, but I believe the OE .wab file contains the contacts as well as
any
distribution lists. So it would just be a matter of importing that .wab
file into
Windows Mail.


Sent message to computer man - waiting for response. So, what is the
proper/correct procedure for transferring distribution lists from
Outlook
Express to Windows Mail (in case I have to do it myself)?

ISP - 50 emails messages/hour. Honestly, never had issues sending to
two
100 address lists until I switched to Windows Mail a month ago.

:

[Bingo! Give the man a cigar!]

Gary VanderMolen wrote:
There's a good chance that the person you hired used a method that
corrupted the contacts.


Hired someone to transfer all info. No problems sending to
distribution
lists in Outlook Express (had it as one group, then split up into
two
6
plus months ago). IMore concerned about Windows mail changing the
addresses (I've corrected some addresses three times & it keeps
dropping
off first 1, 2, or 3 letters of the address). Would using Oultook
vs.
Windows mail be a potential solution.

:

How did you "transfer" this data from OE to Windows Contacts?

Does you current ISP allow one (1) message to be sent to more than
fifty (50) addresses?


SB wrote:
I had two 100 name distribution lists in Outlook Express; when
all
data was
transferred to new computer with VISTA, the lists were all messed
up.
Appears Windows Mail removes anywhere from the 1st three letters
from
the
addresses. I seems to fix those I know what the real address
should
be but
they keep changing (& getting between 50 & 100 undeliverables) -
very
frsutrating to say the least. What's up?
 
G

Gary VanderMolen

That was my impression also, that groups are preserved
when importing via a WAB file.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/VanderMolen


Patrick Keenan said:
PA Bear said:
[OE/Address Book Groups will neither export nor import.]

Actually folders don't, groups do.

I have a mailing list of over 1000 contacts that regularly has to be moved
from and OE system to a vista system. I learned long ago not to use
folders, and the groups and contacts come over just fine.

Export the wab, move it to the Vista machine, import it. It's easy.



Gary said:
Someone who knows OE better than me will have to give you a more
definitive
answer, but I believe the OE .wab file contains the contacts as well as
any
distribution lists. So it would just be a matter of importing that ..wab
file into
Windows Mail.


Sent message to computer man - waiting for response. So, what is the
proper/correct procedure for transferring distribution lists from
Outlook
Express to Windows Mail (in case I have to do it myself)?

ISP - 50 emails messages/hour. Honestly, never had issues sending to
two
100 address lists until I switched to Windows Mail a month ago.

:

[Bingo! Give the man a cigar!]

Gary VanderMolen wrote:
There's a good chance that the person you hired used a method that
corrupted the contacts.


Hired someone to transfer all info. No problems sending to
distribution
lists in Outlook Express (had it as one group, then split up into two
6
plus months ago). IMore concerned about Windows mail changing the
addresses (I've corrected some addresses three times & it keeps
dropping
off first 1, 2, or 3 letters of the address). Would using Oultook
vs.
Windows mail be a potential solution.

:

How did you "transfer" this data from OE to Windows Contacts?

Does you current ISP allow one (1) message to be sent to more than
fifty (50) addresses?


SB wrote:
I had two 100 name distribution lists in Outlook Express; when all
data was
transferred to new computer with VISTA, the lists were all messed
up.
Appears Windows Mail removes anywhere from the 1st three letters
from
the
addresses. I seems to fix those I know what the real address
should
be but
they keep changing (& getting between 50 & 100 undeliverables) -
very
frsutrating to say the least. What's up?
 
P

PA Bear [MS MVP]

/Mea culpa/. While my cranium can retain the most trivial details, that
doesn't seem to be one of them. CRS strikes again, I suppose...

QED: If the contact was Added to the Group manually (i.e., the contact is
not listed in the main section of Address Book), will the contact survive
the import?


Gary said:
That was my impression also, that groups are preserved
when importing via a WAB file.


Patrick Keenan said:
PA Bear said:
[OE/Address Book Groups will neither export nor import.]

Actually folders don't, groups do.

I have a mailing list of over 1000 contacts that regularly has to be
moved
from and OE system to a vista system. I learned long ago not to use
folders, and the groups and contacts come over just fine.

Export the wab, move it to the Vista machine, import it. It's easy.



Gary VanderMolen wrote:
Someone who knows OE better than me will have to give you a more
definitive
answer, but I believe the OE .wab file contains the contacts as well as
any
distribution lists. So it would just be a matter of importing that .wab
file into
Windows Mail.


Sent message to computer man - waiting for response. So, what is the
proper/correct procedure for transferring distribution lists from
Outlook
Express to Windows Mail (in case I have to do it myself)?

ISP - 50 emails messages/hour. Honestly, never had issues sending to
two
100 address lists until I switched to Windows Mail a month ago.

:

[Bingo! Give the man a cigar!]

Gary VanderMolen wrote:
There's a good chance that the person you hired used a method that
corrupted the contacts.


Hired someone to transfer all info. No problems sending to
distribution
lists in Outlook Express (had it as one group, then split up into
two
6
plus months ago). IMore concerned about Windows mail changing the
addresses (I've corrected some addresses three times & it keeps
dropping
off first 1, 2, or 3 letters of the address). Would using Oultook
vs.
Windows mail be a potential solution.

:

How did you "transfer" this data from OE to Windows Contacts?

Does you current ISP allow one (1) message to be sent to more than
fifty (50) addresses?


SB wrote:
I had two 100 name distribution lists in Outlook Express; when
all
data was
transferred to new computer with VISTA, the lists were all messed
up.
Appears Windows Mail removes anywhere from the 1st three letters
from
the
addresses. I seems to fix those I know what the real address
should
be but
they keep changing (& getting between 50 & 100 undeliverables) -
very
frsutrating to say the least. What's up?
 
G

Gary VanderMolen

I don't have an XP system to test this on, and have not used
OE for about three years, so I don't remember the details.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (Mail)
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/VanderMolen


PA Bear said:
/Mea culpa/. While my cranium can retain the most trivial details, that
doesn't seem to be one of them. CRS strikes again, I suppose...

QED: If the contact was Added to the Group manually (i.e., the contact is
not listed in the main section of Address Book), will the contact survive
the import?


Gary said:
That was my impression also, that groups are preserved
when importing via a WAB file.


Patrick Keenan said:
[OE/Address Book Groups will neither export nor import.]

Actually folders don't, groups do.

I have a mailing list of over 1000 contacts that regularly has to be
moved
from and OE system to a vista system. I learned long ago not to use
folders, and the groups and contacts come over just fine.

Export the wab, move it to the Vista machine, import it. It's easy.





Gary VanderMolen wrote:
Someone who knows OE better than me will have to give you a more
definitive
answer, but I believe the OE .wab file contains the contacts as well as
any
distribution lists. So it would just be a matter of importing that ..wab
file into
Windows Mail.


Sent message to computer man - waiting for response. So, what is the
proper/correct procedure for transferring distribution lists from
Outlook
Express to Windows Mail (in case I have to do it myself)?

ISP - 50 emails messages/hour. Honestly, never had issues sending to
two
100 address lists until I switched to Windows Mail a month ago.

:

[Bingo! Give the man a cigar!]

Gary VanderMolen wrote:
There's a good chance that the person you hired used a method that
corrupted the contacts.


Hired someone to transfer all info. No problems sending to
distribution
lists in Outlook Express (had it as one group, then split up into
two
6
plus months ago). IMore concerned about Windows mail changing the
addresses (I've corrected some addresses three times & it keeps
dropping
off first 1, 2, or 3 letters of the address). Would using Oultook
vs.
Windows mail be a potential solution.

:

How did you "transfer" this data from OE to Windows Contacts?

Does you current ISP allow one (1) message to be sent to more than
fifty (50) addresses?


SB wrote:
I had two 100 name distribution lists in Outlook Express; when
all
data was
transferred to new computer with VISTA, the lists were all messed
up.
Appears Windows Mail removes anywhere from the 1st three letters
from
the
addresses. I seems to fix those I know what the real address
should
be but
they keep changing (& getting between 50 & 100 undeliverables) -
very
frsutrating to say the least. What's up?
 

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