Even Suzanne and I will admit that even with our combined experience, Word
still makes monkeys of us something too. If you go to the FAQ site in my
signature block, you will find a pertinent quote from a fellow MVP, Bob
Buckland.
--
Terry
http://word.mvps.org/
message : Just a little update for you wonderful People
: I tried out Terry's Suggestion and Praise be it worked like a dream.
: I think I love you all ( for your patience & minds ).
: P.S. ( I really do think you should all write the Idiot/Monkey guide)hehe,
: you would make a fortune.
: Fondest Regards
: Alasdair.
:
:
: "Alasdair Crockett" wrote:
:
: > Thanks Terry & Suzanne,
: > I bet you must think I am very slow on the uptake!well sometimes I am
: > Your advice is very clear cut Terry & backed up by Suzanne I cant go
wrong.
: > I think you should produce an "Idiots Style Guide"for "Monkeys" the
monkey
: > in this case being ME!
: > (For information Terry I am using Word 2000.)
: > Your Instructions are very clear cut and for that I thank you.
: > Kindest Regards to you both,
: > Alasdair.
: >
: >
: >
: > "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
: >
: > > As Terry has said (and as I had attempted to say but evidently wasn't
clear
: > > enough), there is no need to change the *paragraph* alignment at all.
The
: > > paragraph remains left-aligned. You just insert tab characters to
place your
: > > centered and right-aligned text at the tab stops provided for this
purpose.
: > >
: > > --
: > > Suzanne S. Barnhill
: > > Microsoft MVP (Word)
: > > Words into Type
: > > Fairhope, Alabama USA
: >
: > > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
: > > all may benefit.
: > >
in
: > > message : > > > Thanks Suzanne,
: > > > I always use the Pilcrow to display non printing characters so I can
see
: > > > where my tab characters are and to check the rest of my document but
I
: > > still
: > > > remain in the dark as to why when the tabs are set correctly my
centre
: > > > insertion always moves to the right when I insert the "document
name"to
: > > the
: > > > right, so it looks like,
: > > > "Alasdair Crockett,26947.Climate." My name & candidate #" should be
Centre
: > > > aligned and the document name "climate" should be right aligned but
when
: > > I
: > > > enter right align the whole lot moves right! As a point of intrest
even my
: > > > tutor who is himself studying for his first teaching certificate
cant
: > > resolve
: > > > this issue for me either!
: > > > I think I will just have to try the "Columns Idea" or just muddle
through
: > > > with a mixture of tabbing, spacebar & deleting space bar dots etc
till I
: > > get
: > > > required Information in the right places!
: > > > Thanks again for your valuable help,
: > > > Regards,
: > > > Alasdair.
: > > > "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
: > > >
: > > > > It will probably help if you display nonprinting characters so you
can
: > > see
: > > > > where your tab characters are. I suspect that either (a) your text
: > > overran
: > > > > one of the tab stops so that you ended up with too many tab
characters
: > > or
: > > > > (b) you inserted the tab characters in the wrong place. Also, keep
in
: > > mind
: > > > > that you are not changing the alignment of the paragraph; it
remains
: > > > > left-aligned, but you are inserting tab characters (by pressing
Tab) to
: > > > > align your text at the preset tab stops.
: > > > >
: > > > > --
: > > > > Suzanne S. Barnhill
: > > > > Microsoft MVP (Word)
: > > > > Words into Type
: > > > > Fairhope, Alabama USA
: > > >
: > > > > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
: > > newsgroup so
: > > > > all may benefit.
: > > > >
: > > > > "Alasdair Crockett" <alasdaircrockett(removethis)@hotmail.com>
wrote in
: > > > > message : > > > > > Dear Stefan, TF, Charles & Suzanne,
: > > > > > My heartfelt thanks to you all for your advice, Comments, &
: > > observations
: > > > > > they are all of intrest for many reasons ( Information,
observation,
: > > fun &
: > > > > > home truths!)
: > > > > >
I thank you one and all. But As I said in an earlier post
after
: > > > > > following all the rules and tutorials on header & footers and
setting
: > > tabs
: > > > > I
: > > > > > still found myself with the problem of the mysterious moving of
my
: > > text
: > > > > > within the header/footer. After inserting my name and candidate
#
: > > (Centre
: > > > > > Aligned) I had to insert the file name (right aligned) and low
and
: > > behold
: > > > > the
: > > > > > centre insertion moved right as well! I followed all the rules
in the
: > > > > > header/footer tutorial and the rules on setting Tabs but it made
no
: > > > > > difference!! I think I will try the Table insertion Idea and see
how
: > > that
: > > > > > works, The other disadvantage I was at was that I was using an
: > > obsolete
: > > > > (well
: > > > > > to me anyway) operating system which I had never used before and
that
: > > was
: > > > > > Windows 95!( I had to resit part 1 of my exam at a different
centre) I
: > > am
: > > > > > more than sure I will be back asking you more questions on this
: > > subject or
: > > > > > letting you all know if I've managed to solve my mysterious
little
: > > > > problem,
: > > > > > I sit part 2 of my Clait Plus exam on Tue 8th of Feb and will
let you
: > > all
: > > > > > know how it went .
: > > > > > Thanks once again for all your patience, advice & observations
they
: > > are
: > > > > all
: > > > > > very much appreciated,
: > > > > > Kindest Regards to you all,
: > > > > > Alasdair.
: > > > > > "Suzanne S. Barnhill" wrote:
: > > > > >
: > > > > > > It's amazing how seldom users seem to get into trouble. I
attribute
: > > this
: > > > > to:
: > > > > > >
: > > > > > > 1. Creating relatively brief documents (letters, short
papers).
: > > > > > >
: > > > > > > 2. Saving infrequently (often not at all until the document is
: > > > > complete).
: > > > > > >
: > > > > > > --
: > > > > > > Suzanne S. Barnhill
: > > > > > > Microsoft MVP (Word)
: > > > > > > Words into Type
: > > > > > > Fairhope, Alabama USA
: > > > > >
: > > > > > > Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to
the
: > > > > newsgroup so
: > > > > > > all may benefit.
: > > > > > >
: > > > > > > "TF" <terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom> wrote in message
: > > > > > > : > > > > > > > Cut off ones nose to spite ones face springs to mind!
: > > > > > > >
: > > > > > > > Terry
: > > > > > > >
: > > > > > > > : > > > > > > > : On many school and library computers, however, saving to
the HD
: > > is
: > > > > not
: > > > > > > > : permitted.
: > > > > > > > :
: > > > > > > > : --
: > > > > > > > : Suzanne S. Barnhill
: > > > > > > > : Microsoft MVP (Word)
: > > > > > > > : Words into Type
: > > > > > > > : Fairhope, Alabama USA
: > > > > > > > :
: > > > > > > > : Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups
to the
: > > > > > > newsgroup
: > > > > > > > so
: > > > > > > > : all may benefit.
: > > > > > > > :
: > > > > > > > : "TF" <terryfarrell%40%6d%73%6e%2ecom> wrote in message
: > > > > > > > : : > > > > > > > : > Alasdair
: > > > > > > > : >
: > > > > > > > : > The correct procedure should be to always save to the
local
: > > hard
: > > > > > > drive.
: > > > > > > > : When
: > > > > > > > : > you have finished for the lesson, copy you work to a
floppy
: > > using
: > > > > > > > Windows
: > > > > > > > : > Explorer. Vice versa when you have your next lesson,
copy your
: > > > > work
: > > > > > > from
: > > > > > > > : the
: > > > > > > > : > floppy to the local hard disk first. I'm sure that your
tutor
: > > will
: > > > > > > > : > understand why. Your experience was a pretty good
example of
: > > why
: > > > > not!
: > > > > > > > : >
: > > > > > > > : > --
: > > > > > > > : > Terry Farrell - Word MVP
: > > > > > > > : >
http://word.mvps.org/
: > > > > > > > : >
: > > > > > > > : > "Alasdair Crockett"
<alasdaircrockett(removethis)@hotmail.com>
: > > > > wrote
: > > > > > > in
: > > > > > > > : > message
: > > : > > > > > > > : > : Thanks Charles,
: > > > > > > > : > : I will have to give this one to my tutor
as we are
told
: > > to
: > > > > save
: > > > > > > > : > : everything to floppy as they are school computers that
we
: > > use
: > > > > for
: > > > > > > > night
: > > > > > > > : > : class,and the kids are always trashing them in some
way or
: > > > > another!
: > > > > > > > : > : Regards,
: > > > > > > > : > : Alasdair.
: > > > > > > > : > :
: > > > > > > > : > : "Charles Kenyon" wrote:
: > > > > > > > : > :
: > > > > > > > : > : > Note, you should _not_ be dealing with files on a
floppy
: > > from
: > > > > > > within
: > > > > > > > : > Word.
: > > > > > > > : > : >
: > > > > > > > : > : > If you want to be able to use your documents, when
working
: > > > > with in
: > > > > > > > : Word,
: > > > > > > > : > act
: > > > > > > > : > : > as if your floppy drive does not exist. (This
applies to
: > > > > CDRW/CDR
: > > > > > > > : drives
: > > > > > > > : > as
: > > > > > > > : > : > well.)
: > > > > > > > : > : > Don't use Word to:
: > > > > > > > : > : > Open a document on a floppy
: > > > > > > > : > : > Print a document on a floppy
: > > > > > > > : > : > Edit a document on a floppy
: > > > > > > > : > : > Save a document to a floppy (not even a copy)
: > > > > > > > : > : >
: > > > > > > > : > : > Word regularly trashes documents on floppy drives!
: > > > > > > > : > : >
: > > > > > > > : > : > Instead, work on the document using your hard drive.
Copy
: > > it
: > > > > back
: > > > > > > > and
: > > > > > > > : > forth
: > > > > > > > : > : > using Windows.
: > > > > > > > : > : >
: > > > > > > > : > : > I know that for some with shared computers
(libraries)
: > > this is
: > > > > a
: > > > > > > > tough
: > > > > > > > : > : > prescription. All I can recommend for that is to use
a
: > > brand
: > > > > new
: > > > > > > > : > formatted
: > > > > > > > : > : > disk each time you save and don't do any editing.
: > > > > > > > : > : >
: > > > > > > > : > : >
: > > > > > > > : > : > --
: > > > > > > > : > : >
: > > > > > > > : > : > Charles Kenyon
: > > > > > > > : > : >
: > > > > > > > : > : > Word New User FAQ & Web Directory:
: > >
http://addbalance.com/word
: > > > > > > > : > : >
: > > > > > > > : > : > Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word
(supplemented
: > > > > version
: > > > > > > of
: > > > > > > > : > : > Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide)
: > > > >
http://addbalance.com/usersguide
: > > > > > > > : > : >
: > > > > > > > : > : > See also the MVP FAQ:
http://www.mvps.org/word which
is
: > > > > awesome!
: > > > > > > > : > :
: > > > --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------
: > > > > > > > : > : > This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post
replies
: > > > > > > > : > : > and questions to the newsgroup so that others can
learn
: > > > > > > > : > : > from my ignorance and your wisdom.
: > > > > > > > : > : >
: > > > > > > > : > : > "Alasdair Crockett"
: > > <alasdaircrockett(removethis)@hotmail.com>
: > > > > > > wrote
: > > > > > > > : in
: > > > > > > > : > : > message
: > > > > : > > > > > > > : > : > > Thank you both,
: > > > > > > > : > : > > (Charles & Terry) I found both your answers of
use.
: > > > > > > > : > : > > As A little footnote to this : I sat the first
part of
: > > my
: > > > > Clait
: > > > > > > > : Plus
: > > > > > > > : > exam
: > > > > > > > : > : > > last night and got everything just right in the
time
: > > > > > > allowed(thank
: > > > > > > > : you
: > > > > > > > : > : > > guys)
: > > > > > > > : > : > > then with 5 minutes to go my night class pc locked
up
: > > and
: > > > > would
: > > > > > > > not
: > > > > > > > : > let me
: > > > > > > > : > : > > save my work or print it !(I had been making saves
all
: > > > > through
: > > > > > > the
: > > > > > > > 2
: > > > > > > > : > hour
: > > > > > > > : > : > > period) The tutor could not even fix the problem
and in
: > > the
: > > > > end
: > > > > > > he
: > > > > > > > : had
: > > > > > > > : > to
: > > > > > > > : > : > > switch off the pc (Alasdair crys here ;-( ) I lost
all
: > > my
: > > > > work
: > > > > > > (as
: > > > > > > > : > would
: > > > > > > > : > : > > be
: > > > > > > > : > : > > Expected on win 98) and even my floppy was
scrambled
: > > except
: > > > > for
: > > > > > > > : > original
: > > > > > > > : > : > > files but not the new test document! As a
cosolation
: > > prize I
: > > > > > > will
: > > > > > > > be
: > > > > > > > : > : > > allowed
: > > > > > > > : > : > > to resit part 1 on Thursday at a different night
: > > > > > > > : > : > > school. I just hope the pc's there are better than
the
: > > one i
: > > > > > > > worked
: > > > > > > > : on
: > > > > > > > : > : > > last
: > > > > > > > : > : > > night.
: > > > > > > > : > : > > So Thanks again to you all,
: > > > > > > > : > : > > Kindest Regards,
: > > > > > > > : > : > > Alasdair.
: > > > > > > > : > : > > "TF" wrote:
: > > > > > > > : > : > >
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> That's quite correct but if you have changed the
page
: > > > > margins
: > > > > > > > from
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> Microsoft's defaults, you will need to go into
the
: > > Headers
: > > > > and
: > > > > > > > : > Footers
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> STYLES and change the tab stops for Centre and
Right to
: > > fit
: > > > > the
: > > > > > > > new
: > > > > > > > : > page
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> width.
: > > > > > > > : > : > >>
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> --
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> Terry Farrell - Word MVP
: > > > > > > > : > : > >>
http://word.mvps.org/
: > > > > > > > : > : > >>
: > > > > > > > : > : > >>
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> "Charles Kenyon"
: > > > > <
[email protected]>
: > > > > > > > wrote
: > > > > > > > : in
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> message
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : Look at the formatting of the header and footer
: > > styles.
: > > > > They
: > > > > > > > have
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> center
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : tabs and right tabs set in them by default.
This does
: > > not
: > > > > > > > involve
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> alignment!
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : --
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> :
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : Charles Kenyon
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> :
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : Word New User FAQ & Web Directory:
: > > > >
http://addbalance.com/word
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> :
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word
: > > (supplemented
: > > > > > > > version
: > > > > > > > : > of
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide)
: > > > > > > >
http://addbalance.com/usersguide
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> :
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : See also the MVP FAQ:
http://www.mvps.org/word
which
: > > is
: > > > > > > > awesome!
: > > > > > > > : > : > >>
: > > > > : --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please
post
: > > > > replies
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : and questions to the newsgroup so that others
can
: > > learn
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : from my ignorance and your wisdom.
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> :
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : "Alasdair Crockett"
: > > > > > > <alasdaircrockett(removethis)@hotmail.com>
: > > > > > > > : > wrote in
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : message
: > > > > > > > : : > > > > > > > : > : > >> : > Hi Folks, yet another small problem I am
: > > encountering
: > > > > with
: > > > > > > > : > headers &
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : > footers.
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : > (My op system is windows XP pro & WORD 2000,
my
: > > night
: > > > > class
: > > > > > > > is
: > > > > > > > : > using
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : > windows
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : > 98)
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : > When I get the" House Style Sheet" for
various test
: > > > > papers
: > > > > > > > the
: > > > > > > > : > header
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> &
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : > footer information is always different,
: > > ie:sometimes
: > > > > the
: > > > > > > > header
: > > > > > > > : > needs
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> to
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : > contain canditate name and centre
number(alignment
: > > > > centre)
: > > > > > > > : > automatic
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> file
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : > name (aligned right) Footer may be automatic
field
: > > > > date,
: > > > > > > > : English
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> format
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : > (alignment left) automatic page
number(aligned
: > > > > > > > right)etc.(this
: > > > > > > > : > always
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : > varies
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : > with each test paper)my problem is that I
cannot
: > > insert
: > > > > > > most
: > > > > > > > of
: > > > > > > > : > these
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : > items
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : > without the whole thing moving with the
insertion
: > > of
: > > > > the
: > > > > > > > second
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> requested
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : > alignment.I can acheive the above by a
mixture of
: > > > > tabbing
: > > > > > > and
: > > > > > > > : > using
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> the
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : > space
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : > bar but I dont think the Examiners when my
final
: > > test
: > > > > comes
: > > > > > > > and
: > > > > > > > : > they
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : > toggle
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : > on the pilcrow to see my formatting will
appreciate
: > > my
: > > > > > > method
: > > > > > > > : for
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : > inserting
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : > required alignments! Can anyone
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : > tell me what I am doing wrong ? I have read
the
: > > article
: > > > > on
: > > > > > > > : using
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> headers
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> &
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : > footers at earthlink.net but it does not seem
to
: > > > > address my
: > > > > > > > : > problem,
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> or
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : > maybe
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : > the way I am doing the insertions is ok.
Would
: > > someone
: > > > > > > please
: > > > > > > > : be
: > > > > > > > : > kind
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : > enough
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : > to put me straight please.
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : > Regards,
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : > .
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : > --
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> : > Alasdair
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> :
: > > > > > > > : > : > >> :
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: > > > > > > > : >
: > > > > > > > :
: > > > > > > >
: > > > > > > >
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: > > > > > >
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