HD > 100GB

[Guest]

Thanks, but I have already done that. It is not the jumper setting. I have
performed this with all the different possibilites. Master, Slave, Cable
Select, Stand Alone. With each of these settings the appropriate condition
was in place.

I have been working with computers for many years, and have tried all the
usual GOTCHAS.

 

[Guest]

It does have jumpers, but all the setting have been verified and alternate
configureations have been tried.

I have tried the drive as a single drive, Master, Slave, with CS etc. All
with the appropriate configurations. It does not appear to be the usual
hardware issue.

ME can format, stall, run on this drive using FAT32 just fine and see's the
entire drive. XP will only see 32GB no matter what I do, except when I place
an overlay on the drive with the drive formatted as a FAT32.

I know that there are hard drives that have a jumper to limit to size to
32GB. Does this hard drive have this jumper??

XP can work with very large drives. When you originally partitioned the
drive and formatted did you format it as FAT32? That might account for the
problem.
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Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


| Does anyone have a HD > 100GB installed on XP Home? If so, what type is
it
| and did you have any issues with XP seeing the entire drive?
|
| I have a 120GB WD HD and XP WILL NOT see this drive beyond 32GB. ME has
no
| issues and XP can see my wifes 80GB HD just fine. I have tried talking
to
| support, but that has gone no where. I have tried updating the BIOS,
and
all
| the other tricks of the trade. The only way to get XP to see the entire
| drive is to use an overlay and use FAT32. I really do not want to use
an
| overlay.....
|
| It is NOT the HD. I took the drive into work and used a totally
different
| computer and got the exact same results with my version of XP and with
the
| companies versioin XP Professional. However, 2 other OS's were able to
see
| the drive and format it just fine.
|
| I am at my witts end with this, as this has been going on for almost 2
weeks
| now.
|
| If anyone has any suggestions, let me know.
|
| Regards,
|
| Brad

 

[Leythos]

Thanks, but I have already done that. It is not the jumper setting. I have
performed this with all the different possibilites. Master, Slave, Cable
Select, Stand Alone. With each of these settings the appropriate condition
was in place.

He was talking about the jumper that makes the drive look like 32GB
sections - many large drives have a jumper that makes it look like a few
smaller drives. This jumper has nothing to do with M/S/CS.

 

[Andy]

Does anyone have a HD > 100GB installed on XP Home? If so, what type is it
and did you have any issues with XP seeing the entire drive?

I have a 120GB WD HD and XP WILL NOT see this drive beyond 32GB. ME has no
issues and XP can see my wifes 80GB HD just fine. I have tried talking to
support, but that has gone no where. I have tried updating the BIOS, and all
the other tricks of the trade. The only way to get XP to see the entire
drive is to use an overlay and use FAT32. I really do not want to use an
overlay.....

It is NOT the HD. I took the drive into work and used a totally different
computer and got the exact same results with my version of XP and with the
companies versioin XP Professional. However, 2 other OS's were able to see
the drive and format it just fine.

To me the problem is following the HD.
What WD model is it?

I am at my witts end with this, as this has been going on for almost 2 weeks
now.

If anyone has any suggestions, let me know.

Try a drive made by another manufacturer.

 

[Admiral Q]

Read, reread and comprehend - the jumper that controls what mode a drive
runs in, Master, Slave or Cable Select have no, repeat "NO" bearing on a
"totally" different jumper that changes the drive between "logical" and
"physical" addressing.
"Logical" addressing allows the drive to be used at it "full" capacity
and is to be used with I/O controllers so equipped to use/interpret
"LOGICAL" addressing.
"Physical" addressing will "limit" the drive to around 32GB, give or
take a little - it's purpose is to allow "newer" more technically advanced
drives with larger capacities to be used with (or to fool) older I/O
controllers incapable of LBA (Logical Block Addressing).
As others have pointed out, there are also multiple modes of LBA, 32 and
48. 32-bit LBA will limit the drive to around 137GB, 48-bit allows access
to drives larger than 137GB.
Also, as others have mentioned, WinXP with "NO" Service Pack was/is only
32-bit LBA compatible, so even if the BIOS was 48-bit LBA, WinXP would see
no more than 137GB. WinXP with SP1 or SP2 slipstreamed into (or applied if
speaking of a "slave" drive) enabled 48-bit LBA mode, allowing XP to see
drives larger than 137GB, provided the motherboard, I/O controller and BIOS
were also 48-bit LBA enabled.
Next, as others have mentioned, XP can only format a drive with FAT32
with a maximum size of 32GB - why - cause MS made it that way, but it is
happy to read drives formatted as FAT32 larger than 32GB, you will just need
to use a Win98SE/WinME boot disk or a 3rd Party Utility to format it.
Lastly, are you sure when you have the 32GB partition, and you go into
WinXP, Manage Computer, Disk Management, that XP is showing the first
partition on the new drive as 32GB, and 85-90GB or so "unallocated", as in
you haven't assigned it to a partition and formatted it yet?
And, what 2 "other" OS's at your work were able to see the drive a
"full" capacity and "format" it just fine?
To add FUEL to our cry that the "physical" addressing jumper is set (lim
iting it to 32GB), is the results you say where the XP Pro at work sees on
32GB, and XP sees your wife's 80GB HD just fine - so my conclusion is the
"physical" address jumper is set - if you can't figure it out, call Western
Digital or go to there website/knowledge base and figure out how to change
the drive from physical to logical addressing.

--
Star Fleet Admiral Q @ your service!
"Google is your Friend!"
www.google.com

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It does have jumpers, but all the setting have been verified and alternate
configureations have been tried.

I have tried the drive as a single drive, Master, Slave, with CS etc. All
with the appropriate configurations. It does not appear to be the usual
hardware issue.

ME can format, stall, run on this drive using FAT32 just fine and see's the
entire drive. XP will only see 32GB no matter what I do, except when I place
an overlay on the drive with the drive formatted as a FAT32.

I know that there are hard drives that have a jumper to limit to size to
32GB. Does this hard drive have this jumper??

XP can work with very large drives. When you originally partitioned the
drive and formatted did you format it as FAT32? That might account for the
problem.
--

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


| Does anyone have a HD > 100GB installed on XP Home? If so, what type is
it
| and did you have any issues with XP seeing the entire drive?
|
| I have a 120GB WD HD and XP WILL NOT see this drive beyond 32GB. ME has
no
| issues and XP can see my wifes 80GB HD just fine. I have tried talking
to
| support, but that has gone no where. I have tried updating the BIOS,
and
all
| the other tricks of the trade. The only way to get XP to see the entire
| drive is to use an overlay and use FAT32. I really do not want to use
an
| overlay.....
|
| It is NOT the HD. I took the drive into work and used a totally
different
| computer and got the exact same results with my version of XP and with
the
| companies versioin XP Professional. However, 2 other OS's were able to
see
| the drive and format it just fine.
|
| I am at my witts end with this, as this has been going on for almost 2
weeks
| now.
|
| If anyone has any suggestions, let me know.
|
| Regards,
|
| Brad

 

[Plato]

Does anyone have a HD > 100GB installed on XP Home? If so, what type is it
and did you have any issues with XP seeing the entire drive?

XP has NO problems AT ALL with 100+ gig HDDs. You most likely have a
bios issue.
Note that just because you updated your BIOS it DOES NOT necessarily
mean the update addressed the bios limitition.

 

[Guest]

XP from the beginning (without SPacks) can use a 120 G Drive. I don't know
why people keep bringing that one up. Since ME and his BIOS can see the
ENTIRE drive, how can it be a jumper setting on the drive? Surely he's
examined it carefully (and RTFM) by now after every second person says that's
what it is.

Wild stab: Before you install WinXP for the umpteenth time, try FDISK /MBR
first, your drive could probably use it anyway by now.

 

[Alex Nichol]

I have tried the drive as a single drive, Master, Slave, with CS etc. All
with the appropriate configurations. It does not appear to be the usual
hardware issue.

ME can format, stall, run on this drive using FAT32 just fine and see's the
entire drive. XP will only see 32GB no matter what I do, except when I place
an overlay on the drive with the drive formatted as a FAT32.

Check up on your BIOS. Some BIOSes have a limitation at 32GB and will
not work with larger drives. There may be an update available from the
motherboard maker

 

[Sim]

Brad,

I have a WD120GB hard drive with WinXp and it reconizes it okay. I used
the WD utility to format the hard in fat32. I tried it with the full
120GB and it did work okay but settled with splitting into to 60GB
partitions.

Sim

 

[Michael Stevens]

I have a 200GB SATA drive. XP won't allow me a partition greater than 132GB
using NTFS(i don't know why)
In terms of only being able to see 32GB on the drive, have you checked
that
the jumpers on the hard drive aren't on a clipped setting (this commonly
being 32GB)? Because, if so then the BIOS might be able to determine the
full
size, but the amount that can be used would be limited

Lintal

You need to apply either SP1 or SP2 to enable support for hard drives larger
than 132 gig.
How to enable 48-bit Logical Block Addressing support for ATAPI disk drives
in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=303013

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[Michael Stevens]

It does have jumpers, but all the setting have been verified and alternate
configureations have been tried.

I have tried the drive as a single drive, Master, Slave, with CS etc. All
with the appropriate configurations. It does not appear to be the usual
hardware issue.

ME can format, stall, run on this drive using FAT32 just fine and see's
the
entire drive. XP will only see 32GB no matter what I do, except when I
place
an overlay on the drive with the drive formatted as a FAT32.

"How do I get around the 32 GB limit XP imposes for Fat 32 hard drives?"#5
on the FAQ list
http://michaelstevenstech.com/xpfaq.html
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