Have you been a victim of Online Fraud?

Have you been a victim of Online Fraud?

  • Yes, Unfortunately!

    Votes: 13 17.6%

  • No, I don't transact online

    Votes: 7 9.5%

  • No, I take plenty of care

    Votes: 54 73.0%
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I read plenty of articles and advised people to take care when using online banking and using credit/debit card details over the internet, but I have now started to see a few people fall prey to credit card fraud (which could have originated online).



Have you ever had a problem with this?
 
I cant remember the name of it, but when you are asked too trust the site, but really it is someone else who you are accepting too give details too. That worries me the most, but since i only buy from certain sites, and i know how it works i will know if that happens.

Virus-wise, my norton ran out on its subscription a while ago, but im very carful anyway :D
 
Fortunately Ian no i have not, i use firewalls to stop my data leaving my machine and like to think i'm savvy enough to recognise dodgy websites and non secure servers, i'm not saying thats the be all and end all to keep my details safe, but i have enough experience surfing the net enough years to recognise when something ain't quite right, i'm sure there's a few of you out there that know what i'm talking about.

This knowledge over the years has stood me well and will for some time to come i hope, although it's just as easy to succumb to credit card fraud over the telephone or in a shop or restaurant where they normally take your card and hold it behind the bar so as to set up a tab, although this i don't do i always insist on my card staying about my person for this reason.

Excellent topic though Ian be interesting to hear if anyone has fell victim and how.(thats if they'll own up to it.)
 
Well I've never been a victim, but in my second job, i deal with people that have fell victim to it on a daily basis. I've also a bit too much experience in being the attacker too. if you own a credit card. and its active. you are an easy target. if you pass out your ss number to any online srvc's and dont check for key loggers or trojans on your computer first. your an easy target (you'd be surprised how many do it.) or even an unsecure online srvc... or if you say it to the right person. your name. no one is totally secure. specially if your communicating from your home on the internet. 1 sent msg gives me your ip, address, name, telephone number, properties and things owned. where you've lived and for how long. your entire family trees info if you wanted to puch it that far. if you use a messenger. theres always a hook hack to give the user full access to your computer. so i dunno how confident i would be saying that your sure that your sure your safe.... and no i didnt mention all things that can be done and how much easier they are for obvious reasons. i just know it sucks to have it done, and sucks to get caught doing it. federal pen isnt funny.
 
P.s. NAV for an anti virus is a joke, ask any hacker. lemme know if anyone has a problem with fraud. I deal with it every day. while most of you are from U.K. it may be of some use.
 
i run trandmircos online, free anti virus every month. otherwise, my virus protection is naff. i use sygates free firewall though.
 
your best bet is to spend the 40 dollars (u.s.) and buy a router with a firewall in it. or use an old computer laying around as a softwall which also works very well. i dunno how much you download but i would step up how often you scan. also. i wouldnt recommend using any anti-virus on your computer, just using free online if you cant find them yourself. if its on your computer. it can be corrupted. i run 3-4 online virus scanners bout every two days. sometimes twice a day. depending on what programs i am running. a software firewall doesnt usually do much good. and you can pretty much just delete any NAV. it is the easiest anti-virus/firewall to shut down. besides the no name ones of course. some may not need to be so serious about it. it all just depends on what you do on it and how much you value what you do have.
 
Nope, not been a victim of fraud and touch wood wont be...

I always make sure sites have 128bit encrypition and if the site looks dodgy i wont use it unless they use a secure system like worldpay...

one message hey? Ok Moco, whats my phone number? :D:D:D
 
I have used the internet for many years.

I actually have dealt with abuse on the webhosting scale, and the information Moco seems to think an ip can give is a bit extreme.

I can however use an ip address used in conjunction with a court and ARIN, the ip issuers, to find out the information of the internet user.

However this takes time and cannot be obtained as easily as Moco seems to think.

Chris,
 
Was screwed over by someone selling imaginary laptops on ebay. Managed to get most of the money back though.
 
So was a person my mum sat next to on a plane on one of our USA trips...

I guess in theory you could get information about an IP address is you were able to access the ISP's records and look up a particular user... but comeon, i doubt thats easy!
 
I've never (touch wood) fallen victim to fraud yet... however my Mum has. The fraud squad is on it and they got the money back that they lost, but it's been a real pain for her. A strange transaction appeared on the credit card bill to a hosting company - someone had used her number to buy hosting. Thankfully, Mum got the bill shortly after it happened - it could have been far worse if she hadn't found out about it quickly.
I think the situation arose due to my younger brother using her card on untrustworthy websites - he's now not allowed to borrow it, and is now in the doghouse!

The only websites that I buy things from are Amazon through the PCR shop, and large shop websites which take suitable security measures - I wouldn't trust smaller ones
 
i hardly ever buy online but if i cant get something anywhere else i only use well known and trusted websites
 
Short answer: No.

I don't think most people 'in the know' are at much risk but if you have no Firewall (preferably a hardware firewall), no anti-virus and no anti-spyware software, you're asking for trouble. Especially if you use your CC online a lot.

Ignorance, usually, is the problem. Which is a bit sad, really.
 
ok then, here it is. I cannot track you on this site because i do not run it. therefore do not see your ip. but with your ip. you have their address, with their address you have their phone number, name. and for 20 dollars you can do a background check. in america... your social from there is considered public record, which it shows that person paying. with your name, address, phone number, and social. do any of you think you'd be safe? (in america where we have SS numbers.)
 
Moco said:
do any of you think you'd be safe?
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No, only a fool would think that.

But the risk can be lessened.

And we have SS numbers here as well, only they're known as National Insurance numbers.
 
ahh ok, but was just making the point since people were making cracks like they knew what was going on. Maybe things are differnent in the UK but here, its not hard at all to ruin someones life as long as you know what your doing and cover your tracks. and yeah i agree, it can be severly lessened as my orignal post mentioned. I was just trying to make the point of how at risk you are when people seem to think because they only buy from sites using 128-bit encryption that they're safe. while anyone can get their hands on 128-bit. and make a decent looking site. specially easy if you havent cleaned your comp out before purchasing. I am not trying to scare anyone. just asking you to not jump on online security if you've never experienced one side or the other of it.
 
You obviously didn't cover your tracks enough mate if you done stir :D

So, what, you all reformed now?
 
lol, yes' sir. Funny part is, now i couch people dealing with fraud as one of my side jobs. And I didnt get caught. A very good friend went down so i went clean. he went from drivin new jag's every mnth with a huge house to a 6x9 room with an orange suit. I think the only thing good that came out of it was one of them life lessons and a ton more knowledge from the inside. isnt it great that white collar crimes are put together. stick a few hundred hackers together for years to do nothing but talk about it. (and this is supposed to be healthy for society?)
 
I dont buy stuff online dont trust it. Although i miss out on some good deals.:(
 
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