Have I got a network card fitted.

S

species8350

I did an ipconfig/all command and found under 'Ethernet adapter Local
Area Connection'

Media state...... Media disconnected

Description
Intel (R) 82562V 10/100 Platform LAN Connect

Physical Address 00-16-76- etc

Have I got a network card installed - News to me if I have.

Thanks
 
J

John McGaw

species8350 said:
I did an ipconfig/all command and found under 'Ethernet adapter Local
Area Connection'

Media state...... Media disconnected

Description
Intel (R) 82562V 10/100 Platform LAN Connect

Physical Address 00-16-76- etc

Have I got a network card installed - News to me if I have.

Thanks

You are better able to tell than any of us if you have a network card or
not. Have you looked? If there is no physical card plugged into the
motherboard, have you checked the motherboard itself? It would be a rarity
for any MB made in the past five years _not_ to have some sort of ethernet
port. What is your motherboard? Perhaps someone can tell from that whether
there should be a port on it.
 
S

species8350

You are better able to tell than any of us if you have a network card or
not. Have you looked? If there is no physical card plugged into the
motherboard, have you checked the motherboard itself? It would be a rarity
for any MB made in the past five years _not_ to have some sort of ethernet
port. What is your motherboard? Perhaps someone can tell from that whether
there should be a port on it.

Does the information that I gave give an indication?
 
G

Grinder

species8350 said:
Does the information that I gave give an indication?

That does sort of suggest that you have onboard LAN, but it's the
shocking truth that windows can get screwed up and ipconfig can report
garbage.

I'm assuming that we're talking about a desktop, not a laptop, computer.
Take a look at the back plane of your PC. Does it have an RJ-45 jack?

http://img.alibaba.com/photo/11633272/Rj45_Jack_With_Magnetic_Module_Connector.jpg

If you don't see one, you can pop the lid and see there might be a jack
that is for some reason covered over by your rear panel I/O shield.

http://www.pecos-softwareworks.com/pics/ecs_p965t-a/replace_io_shield.jpg
 
P

Paul

species8350 said:
Does the information that I gave give an indication?

Figure 2 shows the components in a NIC. (It seems the
82562v is a PHY layer chip, and not a complete networking
solution. It is a partner of a second chip, and that
second chip is the "brains".)

http://download.intel.com/design/network/datashts/82562v.pdf

ICH2 ----------------- 82562v ------- Magnetics --------- RJ45
LAN Controller PHY (isolation Connector
("MAC") transformers
| for RX and TX)
System Bus
Interface
|
|

I'm surprised ipconfig states the product name that way.
Usually the PHY is the "silent partner", and the NIC is
identified by the MAC portion. In this case, the MAC
(media access controller) is inside the Intel Southbridge.
The 82562v PHY has a narrow bus, which is particular to
Intel Southbridges. I guess I'd have expected to see
"Intel Pro/100" or something similar in the product name,
rather than ipconfig referring to the 82562v.

You should be able to go to your Device Manager, and see
if your NIC is happy or not. Look under "Network Adapters"
in the Device Manager. See what driver is installed for it.
See if it has any errors.

So, yeah, it's a NIC -- as long as you've installed a driver.

By the way - it really helps if you state the make and
model of computer, because then we can give a better
answer. For example, if I knew what computer it was, I
might even find a driver for it.

Paul
 
S

species8350

Figure 2 shows the components in a NIC. (It seems the
82562v is a PHY layer chip, and not a complete networking
solution. It is a partner of a second chip, and that
second chip is the "brains".)

http://download.intel.com/design/network/datashts/82562v.pdf

     ICH2 ----------------- 82562v ------- Magnetics --------- RJ45
     LAN Controller         PHY           (isolation           Connector
     ("MAC")                               transformers
       |                                   for RX and TX)
     System Bus
     Interface
       |
       |

I'm surprised ipconfig states the product name that way.
Usually the PHY is the "silent partner", and the NIC is
identified by the MAC portion. In this case, the MAC
(media access controller) is inside the Intel Southbridge.
The 82562v PHY has a narrow bus, which is particular to
Intel Southbridges. I guess I'd have expected to see
"Intel Pro/100" or something similar in the product name,
rather than ipconfig referring to the 82562v.

You should be able to go to your Device Manager, and see
if your NIC is happy or not. Look under "Network Adapters"
in the Device Manager. See what driver is installed for it.
See if it has any errors.

So, yeah, it's a NIC -- as long as you've installed a driver.

By the way - it really helps if you state the make and
model of computer, because then we can give a better
answer. For example, if I knew what computer it was, I
might even find a driver for it.

    Paul- Hide quoted text -

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Thanks for the responses.

I am just trying to find out what network cards are fitted to my pc
(Dell Dimension, E520).

I have the RJ45 connector at the back of the pc. I have a 56k modem
connected to this socket, then connected to the telephone line. It
also has a green network logo by the side. I am a bit confused about
the relationship between a 56k modem connection and a Network
Connection.

I have also checked in the Control Panel under Network Adapters. The
Intel (R) 82562 10/100 Network card is listed.

From all this, I deduce that I have a network card that would allow me
to connect by a wire to a network. I am not ready to install the
driver at present, but can I check to see if the driver is already
installed?

I also assume that no wireless adapter cards are fitted. No
information under Network Adapters, and no antenas at the back of the
pc.

Best wishes

S
 
J

John McGaw

species8350 said:
Thanks for the responses.

I am just trying to find out what network cards are fitted to my pc
(Dell Dimension, E520).

I have the RJ45 connector at the back of the pc. I have a 56k modem
connected to this socket, then connected to the telephone line. It
also has a green network logo by the side. I am a bit confused about
the relationship between a 56k modem connection and a Network
Connection.

I have also checked in the Control Panel under Network Adapters. The
Intel (R) 82562 10/100 Network card is listed.

From all this, I deduce that I have a network card that would allow me
to connect by a wire to a network. I am not ready to install the
driver at present, but can I check to see if the driver is already
installed?

I also assume that no wireless adapter cards are fitted. No
information under Network Adapters, and no antenas at the back of the
pc.

Best wishes

S

Strange, that. If you have a 56k modem and an Ethernet connection then the
modem would normally use a 6P2C (usually called an RJ-11) connector. The
Ethernet would normally be an 8P8C (usually called an RJ-45) connector.
I've never seen a situation where the modem and the Ethernet were somehow
shared and don't even see how this would be workable.

Later...

I just looked at the online Dell Dimension E520 manual. According to that,
your computer should come standard with an Ethernet connection on the
motherboard and which is in the same cluster of connectors which also has
the 6 USB connections. If this is true then any modem should be on a PCI
Express or PCI add-on card. Reading pages 14 and 23/24 of the manual makes
it seem as though there should be a PCI card modem present although they
never seem to state this explicitly or say that it is an optional item. If
there is such a modem there should be card with two 6P2C (RJ-11) connectors
-- one would probably be labeled line and the other phone.
 
P

Paul

John said:
Strange, that. If you have a 56k modem and an Ethernet connection then
the modem would normally use a 6P2C (usually called an RJ-11) connector.
The Ethernet would normally be an 8P8C (usually called an RJ-45)
connector. I've never seen a situation where the modem and the Ethernet
were somehow shared and don't even see how this would be workable.

Later...

I just looked at the online Dell Dimension E520 manual. According to
that, your computer should come standard with an Ethernet connection on
the motherboard and which is in the same cluster of connectors which
also has the 6 USB connections. If this is true then any modem should be
on a PCI Express or PCI add-on card. Reading pages 14 and 23/24 of the
manual makes it seem as though there should be a PCI card modem present
although they never seem to state this explicitly or say that it is an
optional item. If there is such a modem there should be card with two
6P2C (RJ-11) connectors -- one would probably be labeled line and the
other phone.

These are the connectors I can see on the back - I really did need
the Dell spec sheet to tell what they were, because the pictures
weren't all that clear. There is no RJ-11 showing here, so it must
be coming off an add-in card.

http://i.ebayimg.com/20/!BZ5PcWw!2k~$(KGrHgoH-DkEjlLl0KttBKo9tve4E!~~_12.JPG

http://www.redplanettrading.com/ebay/motherboards/wg864/wg864-top-800.jpg

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dime520/en/SM_EN/specs.htm#wp1052310

"Network adapter RJ-45 connector
USB six back-panel USB 2.0-compliant connectors
Video 15-hole connector (G965 chipset has built-in graphics)"

So there is definitely an Ethernet on the motherboard.

I downloaded the driver, and while they still insist on the goofy
"Platform LAN Connect" name, the driver also has references to
Intel PRO/1000.

ftp://ftp.us.dell.com/network/R130101.EXE

You can use the Ethernet and RJ45 connector, for an ADSL modem,
a cable modem, connection to a home router, or even for connecting
two computers together with a crossover cable.

The Dell driver download page, has no mention of a modem on it. So
whatever driver was used, I'd want to make a backup of it if possible.
In case there was ever a disk crash.

http://support.dell.com/support/dow...D=DIM_PNT_P4_E520&os=WW1&osl=en&catid=&impid=

Paul
 
G

Grinder

species8350 said:
I am just trying to find out what network cards are fitted to my pc
(Dell Dimension, E520).

I have the RJ45 connector at the back of the pc. I have a 56k modem
connected to this socket, then connected to the telephone line. It
also has a green network logo by the side. I am a bit confused about
the relationship between a 56k modem connection and a Network
Connection.

Just in case the other responses have not made this adequately clear:
There is basically *no* relationship between the modem and the network
connection. Outside of the fact they they are both parts of the same
computer, they are independent devices. So, you could be connected to
the internet through your network card, while you're sending a fax with
your modem through your phone lines.
I have also checked in the Control Panel under Network Adapters. The
Intel (R) 82562 10/100 Network card is listed.

From all this, I deduce that I have a network card that would allow me
to connect by a wire to a network. I am not ready to install the
driver at present, but can I check to see if the driver is already
installed?

If you look at your Device Manager (right-click My Computer, Properties,
Hardware tab) and see if you have a Network Adapter installed. Does it
have a yellow exclamation icon on it? If not, it's properly installed.
 
S

species8350

species8350 said:
Thanks for the responses.
I am just trying to find out what network cards are fitted to my pc
(Dell Dimension, E520).
I have the RJ45 connector at the back of the pc. I have a 56k modem
connected to this socket, then connected to the telephone line. It
also has a green network logo by the side. I am a bit confused about
the relationship between a 56k modem connection and a Network
Connection.
I have also checked in the Control Panel under Network Adapters. The
Intel (R) 82562 10/100 Network card is listed.
From all this, I deduce that I have a network card that would allow me
to connect by a wire to a network. I am not ready to install the
driver at present, but can I check to see if the driver is already
installed?
I also assume that no wireless adapter cards are fitted. No
information under Network Adapters, and no antenas at the back of the
pc.
Best wishes

Strange, that. If you have a 56k modem and an Ethernet connection then the
modem would normally use a 6P2C (usually called an RJ-11) connector. The
Ethernet would normally be an 8P8C (usually called an RJ-45) connector.
I've never seen a situation where the modem and the Ethernet were somehow
shared and don't even see how this would be workable.

Later...

I just looked at the online Dell Dimension E520 manual. According to that,
your computer should come standard with an Ethernet connection on the
motherboard and which is in the same cluster of connectors which also has
the 6 USB connections. If this is true then any modem should be on a PCI
Express or PCI add-on card. Reading pages 14 and 23/24 of the manual makes
it seem as though there should be a PCI card modem present although they
never seem to state this explicitly or say that it is an optional item. If
there is such a modem there should be card with two 6P2C (RJ-11) connectors
-- one would probably be labeled line and the other phone.

--
John McGaw
[Knoxville, TN, USA]http://johnmcgaw.com- Hide quoted text -

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I have two connectors labelled 'line' and 'phone'.

I have the 'line' connector connected to the telephone system. The
'phone' connector is not being used.

Things work very well. Although I do wonder if I have the telephone
line connected to the right port. I use a 56k modem.

Thanks
 
S

species8350

I have two connectors labelled 'line' and 'phone'.

I have the 'line' connector connected to the telephone system. The
'phone' connector is not being used.

Things work very well. Although I do wonder if I have the telephone
line connected to the right port. I use a 56k modem.

Thanks- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Thw 'line' connector has a green network block diagram (That' s what
it looks like anyway). The phone connector has what looks like a blue
phone icon.

Even if I have got the the telephone line connected to the wrong port.
It does work very well - so why change?
 
J

John McGaw

species8350 said:
Thw 'line' connector has a green network block diagram (That' s what
it looks like anyway). The phone connector has what looks like a blue
phone icon.

Even if I have got the the telephone line connected to the wrong port.
It does work very well - so why change?

No reason to switch. Every reason to not switch. If you were to plug the
telephone line into either of the other connectors into which it might fit,
phone or Ethernet, you would either have no communications or no
communications along with a fried Ethernet port. Best to leave it as you
have it.

But at least you now know that you really do have an Ethernet network port
and if you decide to create a network or obtain a internet connection which
requires one you will be all set.
 

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