Grouping problem with labels report form

C

Carol

I am trying to print library catalog cards (3 x 5 in cards, 3 cards/sheet)
using a corresponding label form.

My record source is a query. I would like [FullTopic] to print at the top of
each card, and the details of as many records as possible listed underneath.

In Sorting and Grouping, with [FullTopic], I have Group Header=Yes, Group
Footer = No, Group On = Each Value, Group Interval = 1, KeepTogether = No.

[FullTopic] is placed in a GroupHeader section; record detail fields are
placed in the Detail section.

I have two problems when I run the report: (1) Each card has the details for
only one record. (2) [FullTopic] is printed only on the first card for that
[FullTopic] field.

I would appreciate any help. Thanks.
 
M

Mark A. Sam

Carol,

It seems like you set up your own formatting for the labels. Did you try
the Report wizard for Labels? You "should" be able to select a template for
your particular label setup and not worry about anything except placing your
fields and text where you want them.

God Bless,

Mark A. Sam
 
C

Carol

Thanks for getting back to me.

Yes, I did start with the Report Wizard. (Access 2000) It only allows for
sorting, but not grouping. That's when I started tweaking in the Design view.

Carol


Mark A. Sam said:
Carol,

It seems like you set up your own formatting for the labels. Did you try
the Report wizard for Labels? You "should" be able to select a template for
your particular label setup and not worry about anything except placing your
fields and text where you want them.

God Bless,

Mark A. Sam

Carol said:
I am trying to print library catalog cards (3 x 5 in cards, 3 cards/sheet)
using a corresponding label form.

My record source is a query. I would like [FullTopic] to print at the top
of
each card, and the details of as many records as possible listed
underneath.

In Sorting and Grouping, with [FullTopic], I have Group Header=Yes, Group
Footer = No, Group On = Each Value, Group Interval = 1, KeepTogether = No.

[FullTopic] is placed in a GroupHeader section; record detail fields are
placed in the Detail section.

I have two problems when I run the report: (1) Each card has the details
for
only one record. (2) [FullTopic] is printed only on the first card for
that
[FullTopic] field.

I would appreciate any help. Thanks.
 
M

Mark A. Sam

I'm not really following about the grouping. Would it be so that a new
group starts on a new page? The add a group footer for {FullTopic] and on
its property sheet set the Force New Page property to "AfterSection" and the
Keep together property to "Yes". Also keep the foolter section to 0 height.
I think that will work if it doesn't mess things up. ;)

IF that doesn't solve it, you may have to manipulate the data to group it
like you need by using a report temp table for the report recordsouce and
grouping the data the way you want it.

God Bless,

Mark


Carol said:
Thanks for getting back to me.

Yes, I did start with the Report Wizard. (Access 2000) It only allows for
sorting, but not grouping. That's when I started tweaking in the Design
view.

Carol


Mark A. Sam said:
Carol,

It seems like you set up your own formatting for the labels. Did you try
the Report wizard for Labels? You "should" be able to select a template
for
your particular label setup and not worry about anything except placing
your
fields and text where you want them.

God Bless,

Mark A. Sam

Carol said:
I am trying to print library catalog cards (3 x 5 in cards, 3
cards/sheet)
using a corresponding label form.

My record source is a query. I would like [FullTopic] to print at the
top
of
each card, and the details of as many records as possible listed
underneath.

In Sorting and Grouping, with [FullTopic], I have Group Header=Yes,
Group
Footer = No, Group On = Each Value, Group Interval = 1, KeepTogether =
No.

[FullTopic] is placed in a GroupHeader section; record detail fields
are
placed in the Detail section.

I have two problems when I run the report: (1) Each card has the
details
for
only one record. (2) [FullTopic] is printed only on the first card for
that
[FullTopic] field.

I would appreciate any help. Thanks.
 
C

Carol

Oops. Sorry about this typo. I meant that I started with the Label Wizard. I
used this as the basis for further tweaking in the Design View, but can't get
the grouping to work.

Carol said:
Thanks for getting back to me.

Yes, I did start with the Report Wizard. (Access 2000) It only allows for
sorting, but not grouping. That's when I started tweaking in the Design view.

Carol


Mark A. Sam said:
Carol,

It seems like you set up your own formatting for the labels. Did you try
the Report wizard for Labels? You "should" be able to select a template for
your particular label setup and not worry about anything except placing your
fields and text where you want them.

God Bless,

Mark A. Sam

Carol said:
I am trying to print library catalog cards (3 x 5 in cards, 3 cards/sheet)
using a corresponding label form.

My record source is a query. I would like [FullTopic] to print at the top
of
each card, and the details of as many records as possible listed
underneath.

In Sorting and Grouping, with [FullTopic], I have Group Header=Yes, Group
Footer = No, Group On = Each Value, Group Interval = 1, KeepTogether = No.

[FullTopic] is placed in a GroupHeader section; record detail fields are
placed in the Detail section.

I have two problems when I run the report: (1) Each card has the details
for
only one record. (2) [FullTopic] is printed only on the first card for
that
[FullTopic] field.

I would appreciate any help. Thanks.
 
C

Carol

Mark --

I tried your suggestions and a few other things and they didn't help. Maybe
I'm not explaining this well. My standard (8.5 x 11) contains 3 library
cards/labels. I used the corresponding label wizard to set up the report
(Access 2000), but the wizard wouldn't do any grouping. I tried to play
around with Sorting & Grouping, but I couldn't get it to work.

An example of what I'm trying to get is

[FullTopic]#1
Fields of Record #1
Fields of Record #2
Fields of Record #3 (or however many will fit on the card)

....next card/label
[FullTopic] #1
Fields of Record #4

....next card/label
[FullTopic] #2
Fields of Record #5 or whatever
Fields of Record #6 or whatever

....next page


I guess this is the long way of answering your question -- I would like the
new group to start on a new label. The ForceNewPage seems to just do that --
start a new page, which wastes cards/labels. The real problem I have is that
I can only get the fields for one record onto one card/label -- which I
assume is a grouping problem. Also, I would like the contents of [FullTopic]
to print at the top of every card/label, but it only prints when there is a
new [FullTopic].

I have never used a report temp table as a recordsource. Could you explain
briefly? Thanks again so much.

Carol




Mark A. Sam said:
I'm not really following about the grouping. Would it be so that a new
group starts on a new page? The add a group footer for {FullTopic] and on
its property sheet set the Force New Page property to "AfterSection" and the
Keep together property to "Yes". Also keep the foolter section to 0 height.
I think that will work if it doesn't mess things up. ;)

IF that doesn't solve it, you may have to manipulate the data to group it
like you need by using a report temp table for the report recordsouce and
grouping the data the way you want it.

God Bless,

Mark


Carol said:
Thanks for getting back to me.

Yes, I did start with the Report Wizard. (Access 2000) It only allows for
sorting, but not grouping. That's when I started tweaking in the Design
view.

Carol


Mark A. Sam said:
Carol,

It seems like you set up your own formatting for the labels. Did you try
the Report wizard for Labels? You "should" be able to select a template
for
your particular label setup and not worry about anything except placing
your
fields and text where you want them.

God Bless,

Mark A. Sam

I am trying to print library catalog cards (3 x 5 in cards, 3
cards/sheet)
using a corresponding label form.

My record source is a query. I would like [FullTopic] to print at the
top
of
each card, and the details of as many records as possible listed
underneath.

In Sorting and Grouping, with [FullTopic], I have Group Header=Yes,
Group
Footer = No, Group On = Each Value, Group Interval = 1, KeepTogether =
No.

[FullTopic] is placed in a GroupHeader section; record detail fields
are
placed in the Detail section.

I have two problems when I run the report: (1) Each card has the
details
for
only one record. (2) [FullTopic] is printed only on the first card for
that
[FullTopic] field.

I would appreciate any help. Thanks.
 
M

Mark A. Sam

Carol.

When Access can't do something for me in a report, I create a special table
that I call a temp table to be the recordsource for the report. I use
append queries or programming to fill in the data. This is a controlled
format, but requires programming experience. It isn't something I can
explain, it is something I just do. Sometimes Access just won't do what you
hope it will do. I don't know that you can't. Sometimes it is just playing
around with the settings.

God Bless,

Mark

Carol said:
Mark --

I tried your suggestions and a few other things and they didn't help.
Maybe
I'm not explaining this well. My standard (8.5 x 11) contains 3 library
cards/labels. I used the corresponding label wizard to set up the report
(Access 2000), but the wizard wouldn't do any grouping. I tried to play
around with Sorting & Grouping, but I couldn't get it to work.

An example of what I'm trying to get is

[FullTopic]#1
Fields of Record #1
Fields of Record #2
Fields of Record #3 (or however many will fit on the card)

...next card/label
[FullTopic] #1
Fields of Record #4

...next card/label
[FullTopic] #2
Fields of Record #5 or whatever
Fields of Record #6 or whatever

...next page


I guess this is the long way of answering your question -- I would like
the
new group to start on a new label. The ForceNewPage seems to just do
that --
start a new page, which wastes cards/labels. The real problem I have is
that
I can only get the fields for one record onto one card/label -- which I
assume is a grouping problem. Also, I would like the contents of
[FullTopic]
to print at the top of every card/label, but it only prints when there is
a
new [FullTopic].

I have never used a report temp table as a recordsource. Could you explain
briefly? Thanks again so much.

Carol




Mark A. Sam said:
I'm not really following about the grouping. Would it be so that a new
group starts on a new page? The add a group footer for {FullTopic] and
on
its property sheet set the Force New Page property to "AfterSection" and
the
Keep together property to "Yes". Also keep the foolter section to 0
height.
I think that will work if it doesn't mess things up. ;)

IF that doesn't solve it, you may have to manipulate the data to group it
like you need by using a report temp table for the report recordsouce and
grouping the data the way you want it.

God Bless,

Mark


Carol said:
Thanks for getting back to me.

Yes, I did start with the Report Wizard. (Access 2000) It only allows
for
sorting, but not grouping. That's when I started tweaking in the Design
view.

Carol


:

Carol,

It seems like you set up your own formatting for the labels. Did you
try
the Report wizard for Labels? You "should" be able to select a
template
for
your particular label setup and not worry about anything except
placing
your
fields and text where you want them.

God Bless,

Mark A. Sam

I am trying to print library catalog cards (3 x 5 in cards, 3
cards/sheet)
using a corresponding label form.

My record source is a query. I would like [FullTopic] to print at
the
top
of
each card, and the details of as many records as possible listed
underneath.

In Sorting and Grouping, with [FullTopic], I have Group Header=Yes,
Group
Footer = No, Group On = Each Value, Group Interval = 1, KeepTogether
=
No.

[FullTopic] is placed in a GroupHeader section; record detail fields
are
placed in the Detail section.

I have two problems when I run the report: (1) Each card has the
details
for
only one record. (2) [FullTopic] is printed only on the first card
for
that
[FullTopic] field.

I would appreciate any help. Thanks.
 

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