good people....anyone please?

[Professor Joe]

Good morning, we are back with a new adventure.

We didn't move the lil plastic jumpers from previous position.

Second drive/slave that was hooked successfully to CD drive cables was
hooked up to grey connector on cable that has black/master.
CD hooked back up to its own cables as before.

Tried to hook it up on master cable, on grey connector in the middle
between mobo and master drive. Got a ntldr error at booting.

Turned machine off, so far only way we can have master/slave/CD are
working is:

master still on its own cable (black connector)
CD hooked up to its own cables of course.
***Important part here: Secondary/slave drive was hooked into the
second black connector on CD drive cable.

Does not show complete size of 250gig. Only shows 127gig.
Also in Windows Explorer does not show name as a drive, only as a
MMC/SD....

Fortunately we had not packed that drive full, for I hesitate we would
not be able to see it.

Professor Joe
Any great help like yesterday is appreciared deeply. Our Computer Prof
passed away and I am trying to keep my own depts and Computers going.
I am certain we will have other issues and your friendly and
understandable help has been fabulous.

 

[CreateWindow]

Hi Prof,

XP Service pack 2 is required before you can see the large drive. Is that
loaded?

Hope that helps a little..

CreateWindow http://mymessagetaker.com

 

[Professor Joe]

CreateWindow wrote on 4/24/2007 :

Hi Prof,

XP Service pack 2 is required before you can see the large drive. Is that
loaded?

Hope that helps a little..

CreateWindow http://mymessagetaker.com

================
thanks for the quick reply.

why,yes, it is on the machine.....came new with sp2 on it.

Also any ideas:
Tried to hook it up on master cable, on grey connector in the middle

 

[JS]

You need either Service pack 1 or 2 for drives that are larger than 137GB,
also your PC BIOS must support 48Bit LBA.

JS

 

[Professor Joe]

JS wrote :

You need either Service pack 1 or 2 for drives that are larger than 137GB,
also your PC BIOS must support 48Bit LBA.

JS

=======================
Two of our first yr computer students checked the BIOS and said it was.
Has sp2 loaded on it.

 

[CreateWindow]

Prof,

What are the part numbers for the drives?
Usually Master has lil black jumper and slave has none. Connector position
is usually not a problem but master should be on the endmost connector.

CreateWindow

 

[Anna]

P. Joe:
I'm not sure the following accounts for your problem, but check it out...

1. Presumably your motherboard supports large-capacity disks, i.e., disks
whose total capacity is > 137 GB.
2. And, as you know, SP1 and/or SP2 must be installed to the OS before or at
the time the HDD is installed and the OS is installed on that disk.
3. Might it be possible that the XP OS did not contain SP1 and/or SP2 at the
time the OS was installed on the 250 GB HDD? And it was only *later* that
SP1 and/or SP2 was installed?
4. If that *was* the case, only 137 GB (approx) of your 250 GB HDD would
have been recognized by the OS at the outset and the remaining disk space
would be recognized as "unallocated space" *after* SP1 and/or SP2 was
subsequently installed.
5. So if that is so - then you can format that "unallocated disk space"
through the XP Disk Management utility. Obviously this means the drive will
be multi-partitioned with a minimum of two partitions. If you can live with
that - fine.

As I say - I'm uncertain the above scenario transpired but thought I'd
mention it as a possibility.
Anna

 

[Professor Joe]

Professor Joe explained on 4/24/2007 :

Good morning, we are back with a new adventure.

We didn't move the lil plastic jumpers from previous position.

Second drive/slave that was hooked successfully to CD drive cables was hooked
up to grey connector on cable that has black/master.
CD hooked back up to its own cables as before.

Tried to hook it up on master cable, on grey connector in the middle between
mobo and master drive. Got a ntldr error at booting.

Turned machine off, so far only way we can have master/slave/CD are working
is:

master still on its own cable (black connector)
CD hooked up to its own cables of course.
***Important part here: Secondary/slave drive was hooked into the second
black connector on CD drive cable.

Does not show complete size of 250gig. Only shows 127gig.
Also in Windows Explorer does not show name as a drive, only as a MMC/SD....

Fortunately we had not packed that drive full, for I hesitate we would not be
able to see it.

Professor Joe
Any great help like yesterday is appreciared deeply. Our Computer Prof
passed away and I am trying to keep my own depts and Computers going.
I am certain we will have other issues and your friendly and understandable
help has been fabulous.

=======
thanks again for all the great help. We have a few more projects
coming, so I am certain you will see us again.....but I too learned
from this.

On Seagate drive (to be slave) and also master (existing) on diagram
for jumpers, both diagrams did NOT have all scenarios. No picture for
"NO JUMPER"..
just
single master
cable select
limit drive capacity
and
master with non-ata compatable slave

I went to Seagate website and stumbling around, found the no-jumper
scenario.

So final working configuration is:
master: jumper far end from power spy.
slave: .........no jumper....at all.


thanks all, !~!
Professor Joe