Gonna go back to XP SP2

G

Guest

I'm completely fed up with getting Vista to work. When I install an OS, I
really don't expect it to stop working every time I want to install/uninstall
something.

This started out as an upgrade until it stopped letting me boot. I decided
to downgrde, and it crashed half way through, because XP doesn't like Vista
files. Because of that, I ended up wiping my drive, and clean installing
Vista (because I had heard clean installs of it worked better than upgrades).
Since then, I've had to use 5 or 6 system restores. Why you ask? The first
few times were because it conflicted with virtual-drive software I had
installed which was vista-compatible. The last few times were just from
trying to uninstall a simple game.

That aside, you guys are making it really hard for the power users out there
to do what they want. with the UAC. Sure, you can disable it, but with that
being done, many pieces of software will not install correctly -- even those
made by Microsoft. Why not have a button, or checkbox or something that
basically says:

"I agree to take full responsibility for my actions. If my PC becomes
infected with spyware/adware/viruses, it is NOT Microsoft's fault. Let me do
what I want, and not have to worry about the UAC protection."

Even with the UAC on, and running EVERYTHING as an Administrator (even
though my account is already an admin (one more pain...)), many programs that
have been vista-certified will crash, run slowly, decide not to run, or a mix
of the three. I have also tried compatibility mode, and the Compatibility
Manager that you can download, and nothing fixed these issues.

With that being said and done, all I have to say is thanks for all the
painful time wasted, and most of all, teaching me to keep away from Vista.

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B

Bobby

In my experience, Vista is the simplest OS to install I have ever
experienced.

Insert DVD - > answer one or two questions -> make coffee.

Bobby
 
D

Drew

I'll buy that....installed Feb 1st..Vista Business full running 2 gigs
ddr400 pny 7900gs vid card twin 160 gig hdd's and lots of games...Thing
screams and HAS no problems ever
 
G

Guest

Hm. That's interesting, because installed Ultimate earlier this week. 1 GB
DDR 500, ATI Radion 9800 video card, 80 GB, 200 GB, and 300 GB HDs. I agree
about it screaming -- but only in pain.

If you guys can tell me how you get it running so well, I'm all ears; I
won't actually be in town again until tomorrow, so Vista's gonna stay on untl
I get back at the earliest.
 
D

Dennis_N

Even with the UAC on, and running EVERYTHING as an Administrator (even
though my account is already an admin (one more pain...)),

Be aware, that when you run as administrator, you are really not the
REAL administrator. The normal administrator account does not have
administrator rights unless some process asks for and are granted
administrator rights.

To run as the TRUE and unrestricted ADMINISTRATOR, you have to enable
that account (secpol.msc / local policies). The account is per default
disabled, and only accessible in safe mode.

But then all bets are of...... YOU are the only safeguard :=)
many programs that
have been vista-certified will crash, run slowly, decide not to run, or a mix
of the three. I have also tried compatibility mode, and the Compatibility
Manager that you can download, and nothing fixed these issues.

I think you are mixing compability and UAC up.

Given you have no HW issues, (could sound like it), a Vista
'certified' application should install correctly with UAC on or off.


Regards
 
L

Lee

Hssarth said:
Hm. That's interesting, because installed Ultimate earlier this week. 1
GB
DDR 500, ATI Radion 9800 video card, 80 GB, 200 GB, and 300 GB HDs. I
agree
about it screaming -- but only in pain.

If you guys can tell me how you get it running so well, I'm all ears; I
won't actually be in town again until tomorrow, so Vista's gonna stay on
untl
I get back at the earliest.

One thing, leave it running for a few days until the Search Index is
finished, after that performance increases dramatically.
 
J

John Barnes

Unfortunately many things are not Vista compatible yet. It totally depends
on how you use the computer. Mine choked on a 3500+ and DDR400 memory while
doing great with a 5200+ and DDR2 800. Still some programs I would like to
be using but not crucial for me. I like Vista and NOW it is a good (still
not great) experience.
 
D

D. Spencer Hines

A FEW DAYS for the Search Index in Vista to do its job?

Appalling!

DSH
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C

Chris

D. Spencer Hines said:
A FEW DAYS for the Search Index in Vista to do its job?

Appalling!

DSH
This seems to be a common answer to almost all complaints. I can't
imagine that it should take that long. For nearly everyone, it should
not take more than a few hours. And the performance is not that bad
while it is indexing. If there is clear data on this that differs from
this,(not apocryphal) then I am all ears.
 
L

Lee

D. Spencer Hines said:
A FEW DAYS for the Search Index in Vista to do its job?

Appalling!

DSH
---------------------------------

Not really. I should say when I installed Vista I brought along 100GB or so
of stored data in a separate partition and a 2GB message store (pst) file.
All of that had to be indexed. If you just have a clean new setup it should
not take nearly as long.

Lee
 
S

Stephan Rose

thetruthhurts said:
You need 2gb of ram to do anything of consequence on Vista.

Makes me really appreciate the 190 megs of RAM Ubuntu is currently using and
that is it. =)


--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

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K

kpo

Stephan Rose said:
Makes me really appreciate the 190 megs of RAM Ubuntu is currently using
and
that is it. =)

When Ubuntu can support 10% of the hardware/software already supported by
Windows, then get back to me :)
 
S

Stephan Rose

kpo said:
When Ubuntu can support 10% of the hardware/software already supported by
Windows, then get back to me :)

Well let's see:

My 21 Inch LCD - Supported
My 48 Inch Plasma - Supported
My 7800 GT - Supported
My Soundblaster Audigy 2 - Supported (S/PDIF included)
My J-Tag debuggers - Supported
All my hard drives - Supported
My DVD/CD Burner - Supported
E6600 Core Duo Processor - Supported

Erm...SHIT!!! I am out of additional hardware to list. It actually supports
everything I have!!!

You're right...the hardware support just sucks...I don't even get to play
around with any of my devices...they all just simply work...where is the
fun in that!

--
Stephan
2003 Yamaha R6

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D

D. Spencer Hines

When Ubuntu can support 10% of the hardware/software already supported by
Windows, then get back to me :)

Darned Good Point.

DSH
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A

Alias

Stephan said:
Well let's see:

My 21 Inch LCD - Supported
My 48 Inch Plasma - Supported
My 7800 GT - Supported
My Soundblaster Audigy 2 - Supported (S/PDIF included)
My J-Tag debuggers - Supported
All my hard drives - Supported
My DVD/CD Burner - Supported
E6600 Core Duo Processor - Supported

Erm...SHIT!!! I am out of additional hardware to list. It actually supports
everything I have!!!

You're right...the hardware support just sucks...I don't even get to play
around with any of my devices...they all just simply work...where is the
fun in that!

I think he wants it to support IE7.

Alias
 
G

Guest

this vista stinks i now have a hp camera that wont work a hp photo printer
wont work a epson scanner wont work call microsoft no help haver to go to the
manufactors site i do no help there working on it then the puter was so slow
which i just bought in dec i had to spend 189.00 today for 1 gb stick oh did
i mention my logitech cam ouldnt work on vista it was a pro 3000 so i had to
get a new one today another 59. 00 well at least it works but the printer
scanner and photosmart945 digital camera dont with this system no wonder
billy gates in a multi millionaire and im on ss and really cant afford this
so its peanutbutter and jelly sandwiches for the next month
 
J

Jupiter Jones [MVP]

In the future you can prevent much of your problems by checking with
your hardware and software manufacturers about Vista compatibility.
Although they have had plenty of time, many manufacturers have done
little to get drivers/patches for their customers.
This is mostly the fault of those manufacturers and little fault for
Microsoft.

If Vista is retail, return it if it is that much trouble.
 

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