Get ready for critical updates Feb. 8

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Got this info from Paul Thurrott's SuperSite for Windows:
http://www.windowsitpro.com/windows...rticleID/45323/windowspaulthurrott_45323.html

<<On February 8, Microsoft will ship fixes for a whopping 13 security flaws.
The software giant rates three of the flaws as critical, the company's
highest rating (the lowest rating is good and the highest rating is bad).
The company made the revelation through the Microsoft Security Bulletin
Advance Notification service, which preannounces the number of upcoming
patches that the company will release during its regularly scheduled monthly
patches. Nine of this month's flaws are in various Windows versions, and the
remaining four flaws involve Windows SharePoint Services (WSS), Microsoft
Office, the Windows .NET Framework, Visual Studio .NET, Windows Media Player
(WMP), and MSN Messenger. I hope you IT administrator types weren't planning
to take it easy next week.>>
 
Possible that we now must certify that our Windows XP versions are "Genuine"
as part of MS's new lock-out policy??
 
Do you know why Microsoft does not apply this lock-out policy to 98SE as
well?

: Yves Leclerc wrote:
:
: >
: >> This is probably a better URL:
: >>
: >>http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/advance.mspx
: >
: > Possible that we now must certify that our Windows XP versions
: > are "Genuine" as part of MS's new lock-out policy??
: Hi
:
: No, that will first start sometime in the second half of 2005:
:
:
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2005/jan05/01-26GenuineAdvantagePR.asp
:
:
: --
: torgeir, Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
: Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of
: the 1328 page Scripting Guide:
: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/default.mspx
 
Dan said:
Do you know why Microsoft does not apply this lock-out policy to
98SE as well?
Click to expand...
Hi

No, but I can guess on the reasons:

1)
Much more difficult for MS to determine if the Win98 installation
is a genuine one.

2)
MS is not interested in using a lot of time creating and testing
new Windows Update controls for Win98.
 
I appreciate the feedback. Thank you for your comments. :>

: Dan wrote:
:
: >> Yves Leclerc wrote:
: >>>
: >>>
: >>> This is probably a better URL:
: >>>
: >>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/advance.mspx
: >>>
: >>> Possible that we now must certify that our Windows XP versions
: >>> are "Genuine" as part of MS's new lock-out policy??
: >>
: >> No, that will first start sometime in the second half of 2005:
: >>
: >>
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2005/jan05/01-26GenuineAdvantagePR.asp
: >>
: >
: > Do you know why Microsoft does not apply this lock-out policy to
: > 98SE as well?
: Hi
:
: No, but I can guess on the reasons:
:
: 1)
: Much more difficult for MS to determine if the Win98 installation
: is a genuine one.
:
: 2)
: MS is not interested in using a lot of time creating and testing
: new Windows Update controls for Win98.
:
:
: --
: torgeir, Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
: Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of
: the 1328 page Scripting Guide:
: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/default.mspx
 
If a person logs onto Microsoft's site while using win98 or 2000, will they
still be able to download stand-alone (network install) updates for WinXP?
Will stand-alone updates be eliminated altogether and everything be online?
If that's the case a lot of network administrators will be pissed (they have
to update hundreds of computers) won't they?
 
I often use WinME (because win98 crashes) for internet (I know it's less
secure than XP) because its not the resource hog that WinXP is on my slow
computer. So I often am downloading things for XP from my WinME internet
partition. But if Microsoft is going to require the person logging in to be
using WinXP at the time, then I can't download updates for WinXP. I know
about their corporate site.
 
XP will require validation. As of now, 98, 98SE or ME will not require
validation. However, Microsoft may change their mind and require 98, 98SE,
and ME to have validation at the end of 2005. As of now, all we know is in
the middle of 2005, XP will require validation of legal software for manual
downloads. Automatic downloads will still be available for everyone.

: I often use WinME (because win98 crashes) for internet (I know it's less
: secure than XP) because its not the resource hog that WinXP is on my slow
: computer. So I often am downloading things for XP from my WinME internet
: partition. But if Microsoft is going to require the person logging in to be
: using WinXP at the time, then I can't download updates for WinXP. I know
: about their corporate site.
:
: "PA Bear" wrote:
:
: > How to download Windows updates and drivers from the Windows Update
Catalog:
: > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;323166
: > --
: > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
: > MS MVP-Windows (Shell, IE/OE) & Security
: >
: > Homer wrote:
: > > If a person logs onto Microsoft's site while using win98 or 2000, will
: > > they still be able to download stand-alone (network install) updates
for
: > > WinXP? Will stand-alone updates be eliminated altogether and everything
: > > be online? If that's the case a lot of network administrators will be
: > > pissed (they have to update hundreds of computers) won't they?
: > >
: > > "Torgeir Bakken (MVP)" wrote:
: > >
: > > > Yves Leclerc wrote:
: > > >
: > > > >
: > > > > > This is probably a better URL:
: > > > > >
: > > > > > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/advance.mspx
: > > > >
: > > > > Possible that we now must certify that our Windows XP versions
: > > > > are "Genuine" as part of MS's new lock-out policy??
: > > > Hi
: > > >
: > > > No, that will first start sometime in the second half of 2005:
: > > >
: > > >
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2005/jan05/01-26GenuineAdvantagePR.asp
: > > >
: > > >
: > > > --
: > > > torgeir, Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
: > > > Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of
: > > > the 1328 page Scripting Guide:
: > > > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/default.mspx
: >
: >
 
I still hope that you will post again in the 98 general newsgroup to at least
say hello Kelly. I think PCR really misses you although I doubt he would
admit it. :o

: Hold on......have you tried to troubleshoot why you claim XP is a recourse
: hog on your slow computer? Why is your computer slow? Does it meet the
: requirements or does this have to do with programs running in the
: background?
:
: For the former:
: http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_setup.htm
:
: For the latter:
:
: Windows XP Startup Programs Tracker
: http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_u.htm#xp_util
:
: --
: Happy Mardi Gras,
: Kelly (MS-MVP)
:
: Troubleshooting Windows XP
: http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
:
:
: > : > : I often use WinME (because win98 crashes) for internet (I know it's
less
: > : secure than XP) because its not the resource hog that WinXP is on my
: > slow
: > : computer. So I often am downloading things for XP from my WinME
internet
: > : partition. But if Microsoft is going to require the person logging in
to
: > be
: > : using WinXP at the time, then I can't download updates for WinXP. I
: > know
: > : about their corporate site.
: > :
: > : "PA Bear" wrote:
: > :
: > : > How to download Windows updates and drivers from the Windows Update
: > Catalog:
: > : > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;323166
: > : > --
: > : > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
: > : > MS MVP-Windows (Shell, IE/OE) & Security
: > : >
: > : > Homer wrote:
: > : > > If a person logs onto Microsoft's site while using win98 or 2000,
: > will
: > : > > they still be able to download stand-alone (network install)
updates
: > for
: > : > > WinXP? Will stand-alone updates be eliminated altogether and
: > everything
: > : > > be online? If that's the case a lot of network administrators will
: > be
: > : > > pissed (they have to update hundreds of computers) won't they?
: > : > >
: > : > > "Torgeir Bakken (MVP)" wrote:
: > : > >
: > : > > > Yves Leclerc wrote:
: > : > > >
: > : > > > >
: > : > > > > > This is probably a better URL:
: > : > > > > >
: > : > > > > >
: > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/advance.mspx
: > : > > > >
: > : > > > > Possible that we now must certify that our Windows XP versions
: > : > > > > are "Genuine" as part of MS's new lock-out policy??
: > : > > > Hi
: > : > > >
: > : > > > No, that will first start sometime in the second half of 2005:
: > : > > >
: > : > > >
: >
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2005/jan05/01-26GenuineAdvantagePR.asp
: > : > > >
: > : > > >
: > : > > > --
: > : > > > torgeir, Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
: > : > > > Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of
: > : > > > the 1328 page Scripting Guide:
: > : > > > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/default.mspx
: > : >
: > : >
: >
: >
:
:
 
Thanks, maybe he was there under another name or alias. I appreciate you
setting the record straight, Kelly.

: Yeah right! To set the record straight, he was never there during my years
: working and if so.....
:
: --
: Happy Mardi Gras,
: Kelly (MS-MVP)
:
: Troubleshooting Windows XP
: http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
:
:
: : >I still hope that you will post again in the 98 general newsgroup to at
: >least
: > say hello Kelly. I think PCR really misses you although I doubt he would
: > admit it. :o
: >
: > : > : Hold on......have you tried to troubleshoot why you claim XP is a
: > recourse
: > : hog on your slow computer? Why is your computer slow? Does it meet
the
: > : requirements or does this have to do with programs running in the
: > : background?
: > :
: > : For the former:
: > : http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_setup.htm
: > :
: > : For the latter:
: > :
: > : Windows XP Startup Programs Tracker
: > : http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_u.htm#xp_util
: > :
: > : --
: > : Happy Mardi Gras,
: > : Kelly (MS-MVP)
: > :
: > : Troubleshooting Windows XP
: > : http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
: > :
: > :
: > : > : > : > : I often use WinME (because win98 crashes) for internet (I know it's
: > less
: > : > : secure than XP) because its not the resource hog that WinXP is on
my
: > : > slow
: > : > : computer. So I often am downloading things for XP from my WinME
: > internet
: > : > : partition. But if Microsoft is going to require the person logging
: > in
: > to
: > : > be
: > : > : using WinXP at the time, then I can't download updates for WinXP.
I
: > : > know
: > : > : about their corporate site.
: > : > :
: > : > : "PA Bear" wrote:
: > : > :
: > : > : > How to download Windows updates and drivers from the Windows
: > Update
: > : > Catalog:
: > : > : > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;323166
: > : > : > --
: > : > : > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
: > : > : > MS MVP-Windows (Shell, IE/OE) & Security
: > : > : >
: > : > : > Homer wrote:
: > : > : > > If a person logs onto Microsoft's site while using win98 or
: > 2000,
: > : > will
: > : > : > > they still be able to download stand-alone (network install)
: > updates
: > : > for
: > : > : > > WinXP? Will stand-alone updates be eliminated altogether and
: > : > everything
: > : > : > > be online? If that's the case a lot of network administrators
: > will
: > : > be
: > : > : > > pissed (they have to update hundreds of computers) won't they?
: > : > : > >
: > : > : > > "Torgeir Bakken (MVP)" wrote:
: > : > : > >
: > : > : > > > Yves Leclerc wrote:
: > : > : > > >
: > : > : > > > >
: > : > : > > > > > This is probably a better URL:
: > : > : > > > > >
: > : > : > > > > >
: > : > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/advance.mspx
: > : > : > > > >
: > : > : > > > > Possible that we now must certify that our Windows XP
: > versions
: > : > : > > > > are "Genuine" as part of MS's new lock-out policy??
: > : > : > > > Hi
: > : > : > > >
: > : > : > > > No, that will first start sometime in the second half of
2005:
: > : > : > > >
: > : > : > > >
: > : >
: >
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2005/jan05/01-26GenuineAdvantagePR.asp
: > : > : > > >
: > : > : > > >
: > : > : > > > --
: > : > : > > > torgeir, Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
: > : > : > > > Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of
: > : > : > > > the 1328 page Scripting Guide:
: > : > : > > > http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/default.mspx
: > : > : >
: > : > : >
: > : >
: > : >
: > :
: > :
: >
: >
:
:
 
LOL!!

: Nah, we've just teased Kelly into Win98 General from time to time, usually
: via crossposting, for the entertainment value of her exchanges with PCR:
: http://snipurl.com/cmgk
: --
: ~PAÞ
:
: Dan wrote:
: > Thanks, maybe he was there under another name or alias. I appreciate you
: > setting the record straight, Kelly.
: >
: > : >> Yeah right! To set the record straight, he was never there during my
: >> years
: >> working and if so.....
: >>
: >> --
: >> Happy Mardi Gras,
: >> Kelly (MS-MVP)
: >>
: >> Troubleshooting Windows XP
: >> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
: >>
: >>
: >> : >>> I still hope that you will post again in the 98 general newsgroup to at
: >>> least
: >>> say hello Kelly. I think PCR really misses you although I doubt he
: >>> would
: >>> admit it. :o
: >>>
: >>> : >>>> Hold on......have you tried to troubleshoot why you claim XP is a
: >>>> recourse hog on your slow computer? Why is your computer slow? Does
: >>>> it
: >>>> meet the requirements or does this have to do with programs running in
: >>>> the background?
: >>>>
: >>>> For the former:
: >>>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_setup.htm
: >>>>
: >>>> For the latter:
: >>>>
: >>>> Windows XP Startup Programs Tracker
: >>>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_u.htm#xp_util
: >>>>
: >>>> --
: >>>> Happy Mardi Gras,
: >>>> Kelly (MS-MVP)
: >>>>
: >>>> Troubleshooting Windows XP
: >>>> http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com
: >>>>
: >>>>
: >>>>> : >>>>>> I often use WinME (because win98 crashes) for internet (I know it's
: >>>>>> less secure than XP) because its not the resource hog that WinXP is
: >>>>>> on
: >>>>>> my slow computer. So I often am downloading things for XP from my
: >>>>>> WinME internet partition. But if Microsoft is going to require the
: >>>>>> person logging
: >>> in
: >>> to
: >>>>> be
: >>>>>> using WinXP at the time, then I can't download updates for WinXP. I
: >>>>>> know about their corporate site.
: >>>>>>
: >>>>>> "PA Bear" wrote:
: >>>>>>
: >>>>>>> How to download Windows updates and drivers from the Windows Update
: >>>>>>> Catalog:
: >>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;323166 --
: >>>>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
: >>>>>>> MS MVP-Windows (Shell, IE/OE) & Security
: >>>>>>>
: >>>>>>> Homer wrote:
: >>>>>>>> If a person logs onto Microsoft's site while using win98 or 2000,
: >>>>>>>> will they still be able to download stand-alone (network install)
: >>>>>>>> updates for WinXP? Will stand-alone updates be eliminated
: >>>>>>>> altogether
: >>>>>>>> and everything be online? If that's the case a lot of network
: >>>>>>>> administrators will be pissed (they have to update hundreds of
: >>>>>>>> computers) won't they?
: >>>>>>>>
: >>>>>>>> "Torgeir Bakken (MVP)" wrote:
: >>>>>>>>
: >>>>>>>>> Yves Leclerc wrote:
: >>>>>>>>>
: >>>>>>>>>>
: >>>>>>>>>>> This is probably a better URL:
: >>>>>>>>>>>
: >>>>>>>>>>>
: >>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/advance.mspx
: >>>>>>>>>>
: >>>>>>>>>> Possible that we now must certify that our Windows XP versions
: >>>>>>>>>> are "Genuine" as part of MS's new lock-out policy??
: >>>>>>>>> Hi
: >>>>>>>>>
: >>>>>>>>> No, that will first start sometime in the second half of 2005:
: >>>>>>>>>
: >>>>>>>>>
: >>>>>
: >>>
: >
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2005/jan05/01-26GenuineAdvantagePR.asp
: >>>>>>>>>
: >>>>>>>>>
: >>>>>>>>> --
: >>>>>>>>> torgeir, Microsoft MVP Scripting and WMI, Porsgrunn Norway
: >>>>>>>>> Administration scripting examples and an ONLINE version of
: >>>>>>>>> the 1328 page Scripting Guide:
: >>>>>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/default.mspx
:
 

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