Exactly, R. McCarty, on my dual-boot 98SE and XP PRO. ZoneAlarm PRO. has the
box checked by default to allow the user not to ask again and I always am
unchecking this box. It gets kind of tiring after a while. Also, ZoneAlarm
Pro. later versions are being written in a sloppy manner because it allows 2
tvdumpflags=10 in the autoexec.bat. This seems like sloppy programming to me
and I have edited the autoexec.bat to remove one of the tvdumpflags=10 in the
past and the software firewall works fine. I recently upgraded ZA PRO. to
the latest version and voila I now have 2 tvdumpflags=10. I do not know why
ZoneAlarm has these isssues but I am a member of the ZoneAlarm newsgroup and
so I am tempted to write about it to complain. Have a nice day. I am
considering switching 98SE to complete EZARMOR with antivirus and fireawall
and dump ZA Pro. after my subscription runs out and also dump the free
AntiVir program which is good but sometimes gives false positives. It gave a
false positive in regards to CWShredder 2.x by Intermute and I wrote to the
FTC (Federal Trade Commission) to complain and it turned out to be a false
positive. Have a great day!
: Because eTrust & your Firewall are complimentary programs, from
: the same company what happened isn't a violation of Firewall rules.
: It just simply, automatically added the rules for both it's operation &
: maintenance Apps/Services.
: eTrust is lean & efficient. At best it only has 2-3 active processes as
: opposed to Symantec/McAfee's 7-9+. It just made those "Rule"
: changes to ensure it works and doesn't end up being blocked by a
: user's incorrect rule decisions.
:
: : > : >> I just checked my machine and NAV 2002 has 3 processes running...
: >>
: >> 00:00:02 C:\Program Files\Common Files\Symantec Shared\Security
: >> Center\SymWSC.exe
: >> 00:00:01 C:\Program Files\Norton AntiVirus\navapsvc.exe
: >> 00:00:07 C:\PROGRA~1\NORTON~2\navapw32.exe
: >
: > Your post of processes jog'd my memory of when I last tested it, I went
: > back
: > and checked and then realized my previous post was inaccurate, but only
: > when
: > it came to me throwing v2002 into my previous doom assessment of SAV
2003,
: > 2004, 2005 - if I could edit my posts I would; but yes v2002 like v2001
is
: > much different & less intrusive on every level - unlike the later
: > versions.
: >
: > I also thought I'd give eTrust another quick spin because of the praise
it
: > has been given in this thread, but it didn't take me long to see and
: > remember
: > why I felt the way I did before when I tested it, and still do - that if
: > you
: > gave it to me free I would not use it ..except of course to test it.
: >
: > Yes I will say it has a nice simple GUI I really liked, but it ends
there.
: > I didn't even finish the install when I almost fell off my chair to see
my
: > computer freely engaged connected online downloading & doing whatever
: > ..I quickly saw why - it had added itself without asking me to my
: > firewalls
: > trusted zone with ..8 ..EIGHT processes as it connected online doing
: > whatever ...the point is - it should of asked me first! ...just plain
: > rude!
: > Change the access permissions only to notice at every turn it is
: > constantly
: > prompting for online connections for this or that.
: > To me it violates the very premise of firewall edict and manners.
: > ..no thanks, notta.
: > ..this screenshot below or attached, of what it did, says it all:
: >
: >
: >
: >
: >> With my machine running for 13 hours the processes have only uses the
: >> above listed amount of CPU time (as seen with TaskInfo 2003 task manager
: >> program. This is with me running Outlook and processing about 40 pieces
: >> of mail, browsing to 30-40 web sites, using Pocket PC sync software, and
: >> running a few games. It doesn't look like a CPU hog to me. By the way,
: >> my PC is an AMD Athlon 2500 with 512 Mb of RAM and an WD 80 Gb HD with
: >> 8Mb
: >> cache (not the fastest machine, but no slouch either).
: >>
: >> Norton System Security, Norton Utilities, etc. are another thing
: >> altogether. These programs eat up CPU, memory, and disk space making
any
: >> PC sluggish. I do have Norton Utilities 2002 installed but all the
: >> automated stuff is turned off (Norton System Doctor, Norton's recycle
: >> bin,
: >> etc.). I only use a few of the tools like unerase and Speedisk to
defrag
: >> floppies and memory cards (none of the other defrag tools will do
: >> floppies
: >> or memory cards and that includes Diskeeper which I have or Perfect Disk
: >> which I tried).
: >>
: >> Please provide some details on what makes NAV 2002 so bad. So far, I've
: >> not got any infections in over 10 years of use of various NAV version,
: >> and
: >> none since NAV 2002 came out. I have to say the older version of the
: >> Virus update tool (LiveUpdate) were unreliable at best. They kept
: >> failing
: >> to update for no apparent reason, but the latest version (2.6) has been
: >> perfect.
: >>
: >> Symantec has definitely lost their reputation in the past 5 years or so.
: >> The "innovations" appear more like "bait" and "fluff" instead of useable
: >> features. This is the main reason I stopped buying their software since
: >> 2002. Norton Utilities stopped improving after they came up with Norton
: >> System Doctor and Norton Recycle bin. Both of these "features" caused
: >> more problems than they fixed.
: >>
: >>
: >> : >> I'm Back!!! You tell them Gary. I personally do not like Avast!
because
: >> of
: >> its constant scanning and annoying interface. I use AntiVir on 98SE and
: >> it
: >> is made in Germany. AVG is fine and Gary is absolutely correct on
Norton
: >> (now Symantec) products as well as McAfee products. I only use GoBack
: >> for
: >> my
: >> 98SE and although it is made by Symantec it was created by Roxio and
only
: >> recently (a few years I think) bought by Symantec. Symantec did a few
: >> enhancements to GoBack and some cluttering up of the user's registry
: >> which
: >> is
: >> in all their products. I accept the more clogged registry for the
: >> protection
: >> of System Restore that GoBack (latest version) provides a user's PC.
: >> Also,
: >> with my beta-testing of Microsoft products I need to make sure my PC is
: >> safe
: >> as well as having the burned cd's, jumpdrive with backups (256 mb) on my
: >> keychain and assorted 3.5 floppies that I need to consolite to a cd some
: >> day
: >> I think I am pretty safe. I now have a Plextor DVD burner -- model
: >> number
: >> PX-708A that I bought a while back and some day I will consolidate but
: >> time
: >> is too valuable for that now. (I saw Ground Zero and let the death of
my
: >> brother's friend go and the death of my maintenace man's nephew go and I
: >> give
: >> all the glory to God who protects me and gives me strength to live
: >> another
: >> day! GodSpeed Everyone!)
: >>
: >> : >>: I've been attending this group since early 1999--and Norton AV has
: >>: *always* been problematic during that entire time. So has McAfee. So
has
: >>: PCCillan. Problematic in the sense that they caused problems. Back when
: >>: Norton 2000, and then 2001, came out, people were saying the same
things
: >>: about those versions compared with past solutions that you guys are
: >>: saying about newer versions now.
: >>:
: >>: Whereas other solutions, like InoculateIt Personal Edition (which
became
: >>: eTrust EZAV), AVG and AVAST may have had problems with automatic
: >>: updating or other minor issues, but they *never* interfere with the OS.
: >>:
: >>: The only reason Norton and McAfee still exist in the "home" versions is
: >>: that they have long had deals with the major computer vendors such that
: >>: they come preinstalled.
: >>:
: >>: --
: >>: Gary S. Terhune
: >>: MS MVP Shell/User
: >>:
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/cleanboot.htm
: >>:
http://www.grystmill.com/articles/security.htm
: >>:
: > : : > : >
: > : > : > : >
: > : > This is the main reason I use the following products on my machine.
: > : >
: > : > 1) Symantec Anti-Virus 2002 (doesn't have any of the described
: > : > fatware that was added to the newer versions. Works great with
: > : > low CPU utilization.).
: > : >
: > : > [...]
: > : > That's just not true, 2002 absolutely is the first version With all
: > : > the added anti theft extra modules fatware that is and has been
: > : > included with every version since and including 2002 that has
: > : > plagued millions of users penalizing them at every turn; just notice
: > : > all the extra running processes.
: > : > Consider yourself lucky so far, you have no idea.
: > : >
: > : > I will say that the Norton AV (stand-alone) 2001 version is their
: > : > greatest accomplishment, however it's too bad it will not work
: > properly
: > : > with WXP
: >
: >
: >
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