Front Page 2002 Includes

G

Guest

In Front Page 2002, can you use Includes for the content from just a Cell or
group of Cells from one page to another? These Cells include Images, Text,
and Hyperlinks to both off site locations and locations within the Site.

I would like to create some editable Cells in multiple pages drawn from one
location. I have tried Borders, but they do not give me the flexability I
need. (A total of about a dozen different Cells would be used in 100+ Pages.)

If not, can a new version do this, and if so, which version can?

Thanks for the help.

Thanks.
 
A

Andrew Murray

No you have to include a *file* in another page, not a portion of a page.

No version of FP can do what you're after.

The "include page" feature is just that - it includes a whole page.

If you want specific content in a cell of a table, then create that content
in a separate page, then "include" it in the page with the table.

Otherwise if this is not what you're after, I'm not sure I understood your
question...
 
R

Ronx

The FrontPage include places a complete web page (between <body> and
</body>) at the inclusion point, so the best you can do is place a
complete table where you need the cell content.
example:
<td><!-- webbot include blah....--></td>
where the include is a table
<table>
rows and columns
</table>

SSI (server side includes) may be an alternative, but needs careful
coding to prevent FrontPage correcting what appears to be bad HTML.
 
G

Guest

Thank you Andrew and Ronx.

The concept of SSI is what I am shooting for. My Host does not like them or
either I am not doing something correctly. I had someone help me try to get
the SSI to work with no luck. Support says they should work, but they said
that about updating Databases for PHP and after three months they now
informed me that I could not for security reasons.

I have created the pages with the desired content of the Cell (Call it
Insert1.htm). I found that Inline Frame will work, but the fact I would have
to manually adjust the Frame in each page to get it to blend more seamlessly
makes me want to avoid this concept. I could make it work with Shared Borders
if I could include postitioned Images other than background as part of the
Shared Border. Positioning is still an issue without having to rework the
whole site.

Any other suggestions would be appreciated or maybe pointing out something I
am missing.
 
R

Ronx

If you are willing to use shared borders, the FrontPage include file
will work for you. Shared Borders are just includes with restrictions
on where they are placed. Similarly, the content of an IFrame is a
complete page.

If you are using SSI, then the page extension must be changed to
whatever the host requires for SSI to work - .asp, .shtm etc.
The SSI included page must *not* be a complete web page - it must not
have <html> tag, must not have a <head>...</head> section or tags, and
must not have a <body> tag, nor the corresponding closing tags.
For FrontPage to work properly with the code, the SSI must be placed
in the code so that the code is complete and valid
example:
<table>
<tr><td>blah</td>.. more cells </tr>
<!-- #include virtual=/myinclude.asp -->
</table>

where the myinclude.asp contains an entire row of cells for the
table.
IMO, the FP include as described below is easier to implement.
 
A

Andrew Murray

"Include Pages" are Frontpage's version of SSI - basically the same concept.
 
T

Tina Clarke

RC said:
In Front Page 2002, can you use Includes for the content from just a Cell or
group of Cells from one page to another? These Cells include Images, Text,
and Hyperlinks to both off site locations and locations within the Site.

I would like to create some editable Cells in multiple pages drawn from one
location. I have tried Borders, but they do not give me the flexability I
need. (A total of about a dozen different Cells would be used in 100+ Pages.)

If not, can a new version do this, and if so, which version can?

Thanks for the help.

Thanks.
Click to expand...

Just use FrontPage Includes ...
http://anyfrontpage.com/ezine/va/frontpage-includes.htm

Don't bother with frames or shared borders .. old hat and frames are bad for
seo ... you want information to appear on certain places .... which is the
same content .... to do that you make one page with the content and use the
fp include feature .... the above link tells you how, for SSL your host has
to support them and they are not as easy to use as FP Includes (you don't
need FrontPage server extensions they work with or without)

Any version from FrontPage Express can use FrontPage Includes

See how i use them for menus at http://addonfp.com/ the menus change on the
left as you move through the links... hand typed links all done with
includes... much easier to maintain as well.

hth Tina


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