Freeware for Windows 3.11?

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Hello!

I have an older PC (66MHz 486 with 8MB RAM and 800MB hard drive) still going
strong with Windows 3.11. But there is a lack of software for it, obviously.

Anybody here has good URL's with freeware for Windows 3.11?

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Wishmaster said:
Hello!

I have an older PC (66MHz 486 with 8MB RAM and 800MB hard drive) still
going strong with Windows 3.11. But there is a lack of software for it,
obviously.

Anybody here has good URL's with freeware for Windows 3.11?

I believe Henk de Jong does. See the section on his site titled "Freeware for Windows 3.xx"

http://home.hccnet.nl/hmdejong/

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From http://www.calmira.de/

Calmira is a complete 16-bit shell that lets you manage files, launch
applications and control tasks. It brings Windows 3.1 up to date with
some of the advanced user interface enhancements from the Windows
world, and for most people, provides welcome relief from the
awkwardness of File Manager.

The installation is simple -- just copy a few files into a directory,
make a small change to your system.ini file (optional), and you are
ready to go. If you have used the Windows 95 interface before, you
should feel quite at home, but in any case, it won't take long to get
used to the new look and feel.

Calmira is free software covered by the GNU General Public License. The
full Delphi source code is available for download (free), for all
programers to make enhancements.
 
Hello!

I have an older PC (66MHz 486 with 8MB RAM and 800MB hard drive) still going
strong with Windows 3.11. But there is a lack of software for it, obviously.

Anybody here has good URL's with freeware for Windows 3.11?
As well as suggestions offered, it is well up to running Windows98
which will open a whole wider choice up.
 
Joe said:
Calmira is a complete 16-bit shell that lets you manage files, launch
applications and control tasks. It brings Windows 3.1 up to date with
some of the advanced user interface enhancements from the Windows
world, and for most people, provides welcome relief from the
awkwardness of File Manager.

FYI
Way back in the days of 3.11, I used and reviewed this freeware for my
old local BBS (Bulliten Board System). I don't have a copy of the review
any more but I will tell you that I throughly enjoyed this one. Just my
2 cents!

Cheers,
Buzzy :)


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Joe Caverly said:
Calmira is a complete 16-bit shell that lets you manage files, launch
applications and control tasks. It brings Windows 3.1 up to date with
some of the advanced user interface enhancements from the Windows
world, and for most people, provides welcome relief from the
awkwardness of File Manager.

I use Calmira, but I prefer the Windows 3.1 shell (I find the program
manager more intuitive when you have few applications - unlike my XP machine
which has more than 150 softwares installed).
 
Conor said:
As well as suggestions offered, it is well up to running Windows98
which will open a whole wider choice up.

Windows 98 with 8MB RAM? Looks rather hard. And modern software will CRAWL
on it. :(
 
Wishmaster said:
Anybody here has good URL's with freeware for Windows 3.11?
Although, strictly speaking, it is OT, I found a version of IE 5.0
that runs under Windows for Work Groups 3.11 here:
www.hpcfactor.com/downloads/msie/ie50/

I post this for information only. I use WfWG daily and this is the
only 16-bit graphical W3 browser, of which I'm aware, that is up to
today's WWW but I think it requires the win32s extension, already
resident on my old clunker so I don't know for sure. Nscape 4.08, the
last 16-bit Nscape, pukes on eBay as well as many other sites that this
version of IE can handle. I really would like to find a free browser
and/or a firewall, though.
Warning: If you do try to install this turkey, you need to know
that it epitomizes IE 5.0's ills. It takes over the computer, steals
graphics file associations, registers OE for mail/news, favors Micro$oft
on the Web, does not support multiple user profiles, does not clear its
cache ever, and has a downright primitive and needlessly hard-to-use
all-or-nothing security/cookies management scheme. Aside from removing
it with 98Lite, this is my only experience with IE and, hell, except for
those few quibbles, it works really good ;-)
 
Wishmaster said:
Hello!

I have an older PC (66MHz 486 with 8MB RAM and 800MB hard drive)
still going strong with Windows 3.11. But there is a lack of software
for it, obviously.

Anybody here has good URL's with freeware for Windows 3.11?

[]s

Hi!



Your machine could run Windows 95, too. Maybe some RAM more (16 or 32MB
but not required) and you have full access to 32bit Software Freeware,
better than win32s. Win95 is compatible to 16bit Software (and 8bit,
off course), as Windows 3.11.
If you can upgrade to 64MB, NT4 is also a good 32bit (Real 32bit) OS
and faster than 9x/ME. Even faster than NT5 and 5.1.
A 486 cannot drive many DirextX Games so DX3 with NT4 should be enough.
You could install a DOS/NT System for all purposes, and WIn3.11 could
be on the DOS Partition as well. You need at least 300MB for NT4!



Good luck!



Best Regards,

Daniel Mandic
 
I have an older PC (66MHz 486 with 8MB RAM and 800MB hard drive) still going
strong with Windows 3.11. But there is a lack of software for it, obviously.

As others mentioned: Win95 would be a better choice on your PC - if
you use it not for one special task, but as an universal computer. I
was running Win95(Beta) to Win95b on a 486/DX33 with 8 MByte RAM and
540 MByte + 170 MByte HD and was *by far* more happy with these OS
versions than with different Win3.x on that computer, before.
Anybody here has good URL's with freeware for Windows 3.11?

The, IMHO, worlds largest freeware/shareware repository for Win3.x is
still online: Simtel. I dunno whether you can access that part via http.
That's the link for ftp:

ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/win3/

Another good source has always been Garbo. The http server seems to be
down at the moment. That's why I show you both - the http and the ftp
link:

http://garbo.uwasa.fi
ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/windows/

Very good programs can be found on the Slovak Antivirus Center (SAC).
Unfortunately, the SAC server has no possibility to sort by OS. You'll
find DOS, Win16 and Win32 programs side by side. Maybe you should test
programs newer than 1990 and older than 1996, first.

http://www.sac.sk

HTH.
BeAr
 
As others mentioned: Win95 would be a better choice on your PC - if


It is used to mantain old applications that don't work well on either
Windows 95 or NT.

The, IMHO, worlds largest freeware/shareware repository for Win3.x is
still online: Simtel. I dunno whether you can access that part via http.
That's the link for ftp:

ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/win3/

Will try.
Another good source has always been Garbo. The http server seems to be
down at the moment. That's why I show you both - the http and the ftp
link:

http://garbo.uwasa.fi
ftp://garbo.uwasa.fi/windows/

Garbo is a nice source... I have used some DOS freeware from there.
Very good programs can be found on the Slovak Antivirus Center (SAC).
Unfortunately, the SAC server has no possibility to sort by OS. You'll
find DOS, Win16 and Win32 programs side by side. Maybe you should test
programs newer than 1990 and older than 1996, first.

http://www.sac.sk

This gives a good source.


Thanks!


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On that special day, Wishmaster, ([email protected]
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I have an older PC (66MHz 486 with 8MB RAM and 800MB hard drive) still going
strong with Windows 3.11. But there is a lack of software for it, obviously.

Anybody here has good URL's with freeware for Windows 3.11?

Sorry for being a bit late...

A German site dedicated to freeware, which I visited today, has a link
site

http://www.freewareguide.de/win31/quellen.shtml#quellen

where there are various links available. The topmost, win31.de, offers
an English version. Mega 16-bit freeware list seems to be gone. i24.com
(tuning Win31) is still there, but a bit old, and a weird mixture of
German and English. Spot is for scientists.


Gabriele Neukam

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It is used to mantain old applications that don't work well on either
Windows 95 or NT.

I don't recall ever having problems on Win95 with Win16 applications. DOS
programs can be run from DOS mode / Old OS mode on Win95. You could setup
some DOS and Win3.1 or WfW3.11 first and install Win95 after that (into a
different directory!). So you could use any kind of programs running on
these systems switching back and force.

The DOS support inside Win3.x itself wasn't too trustworthy. If you
encounter problems on Win95 you stand a good chance that they can be
dealt with by changing settings inside config.sys and/or autoexec.bat
files.

But that will depend. Sounds like you tested both setups, already. So
good luck for your further search on Win16 apps.

I just remembered another good source for that kind of programs. Have
a look at Bookcase:

http://www.bookcase.com/library/software/#win3x

It is well sorted and has links to homepage addresses and to direct file
download links, as well. Although you'll find some links broken, often
one of both targets points to a valid address.

You're welcome. :-)

BeAr
 
Wishmaster said:
It is used to mantain old applications that don't work well on either
Windows 95 or NT.

Hi!

Well, I think that Win95 is better than Win3.11. The 16-bit Support
with Win95 (I call win9x a 18bit OS, 8+16+32 divided with 3 ;-)) is
very good.

As I told you, DOS, Win.311 and WinNT4 on one machine will open up the
whole 32bit Soft and smaller 16 and 8Bit with Win3.11 and DOS. Forget
Win9x!!!, NT is a real 32bit OS!!
If you decide to stay with 8MB, then Win95 is better than NT4 IMO, and
it is also very well with 32Bit Software.

I don´t want to give you advices how you set up your system, if you
like Win3.11, it´s OK, sure.

It is a good decision having DOS on a machine. There are so much
Software (OT: Abandoned Ware) on the Internet. DOS also have 32bit
Software, and I tried a lot... such Software (DOS4GW extended) are best
in a real DOS. Not to mention the sound compatibility you cannot
emulate with PCI Cards (Only Video VGA is working with newer AGP and
PCI in DOS without compatibilty problems, but not the sound!)

This 486 you talk about, can give you hours and months of pleasure
without paying for Software.

I have here a 486/25 for older programs (mostly DOS-Games) which I like
very much.
Also a 386/25 w/o 2nd Level Cache is called mine. I use it for
unthrottled programs where a 486/25 is too fast :-). The 1st Level
Cache in the 486series speed up a lot, the 386 don´t have such at all,
they can have 2nd Level.

Before, I tried to turn off the caches (1st and 2nd) on the 486, but
then it is too slow :-(. So I got the Idea having a real 386, too.




Best Regards,

Daniel Mandic
 
As I told you, DOS, Win.311 and WinNT4 on one machine will open up the
whole 32bit Soft and smaller 16 and 8Bit with Win3.11 and DOS. Forget
Win9x!!!, NT is a real 32bit OS!!
If you decide to stay with 8MB, then Win95 is better than NT4 IMO, and
it is also very well with 32Bit Software.

Yes. The computer described is too weak for any NT version. In past
I used NT_3.1, NT_3.5 and NT_4.0 on similar and a bit better systems.
They can be made running. But it is definitely not the best setup
thinkable for such computer systems. (As long as one won't use them
as server. And even than would Linux be a better choice.)

BeAr
 
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