Files and folders listing in XP x64 explorer

[mmm]

I'm a TotalCommander user, and it really annoys me that files and
folders in Windows explorer views aren't being sorted the same way;
Files and folders listed with newest on top (date sorted), but with
ALL folders above files in the list.
It's the way Norton Commander did it by default, and Midnight
Commander also does it by default.

Does anyone here know which HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT registry entries can
accomplish this for me?

I know these have something to do with the folder view settings, but
I'm only interested in setting the defaults for ALL views.
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shel lNoRoam\BagMRU
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell NoRoam\Bags

 

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[mmm]

I'm a TotalCommander user, and it really annoys me that files and
folders in Windows explorer views aren't being sorted the same way;
Files and folders listed with newest on top (date sorted), but with
ALL folders above files in the list.
It's the way Norton Commander did it by default, and Midnight
Commander also does it by default.

Does anyone here know which HKEY_USERS\.DEFAULT registry entries can
accomplish this for me?

I know these have something to do with the folder view settings, but
I'm only interested in setting the defaults for ALL views.
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shel lNoRoam\BagMRU
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell NoRoam\Bags

I'm amazed nobody ever wanted this in Windows.

Everytime I click on a "Browse" button, I need to scroll to the right,
click details twice, scroll to the left again, then select the latest
time/date file on top from a folder full of files. Pathetic. I can't
believe MS Windows users are so lame they actually "like" this lack of
a feature!

 

[John John - MVP]

I'm amazed nobody ever wanted this in Windows.

Everytime I click on a "Browse" button, I need to scroll to the right,
click details twice, scroll to the left again, then select the latest
time/date file on top from a folder full of files. Pathetic. I can't
believe MS Windows users are so lame they actually "like" this lack of
a feature!

What on Earth are you mumbling about? By default Explorer sorts by
filename, with all folders listed at the top and files below the folder.
Most folks look for files and folders by name instead of date, or I
should say that they most often search for files and folders by name
rather than by date, so the files and folders are shown alphabetically
listed.

You want to sort by date? Just click at the top on the column
description and the objects will be sorted by date, with all the folders
listed first, click once more and list will show the files first.

John

 

[jultus]

Yeah I know how to get it to sort by time/date, why don't you learn how to read before posting your useless babble;
I want to have it sorted on time/date BY DEFAULT. XP doesn't remember this setting, which is excruciatingly annoying to say the least. Whoever coded that part in Windows XP is a dumb fool, obviously. Similar to what you must be, ****ing idiot.

 

[Tim Meddick]

The way you're supposed to set a particular column arrangement in Explorer
by default, is to ;

a). Set-up a folder the way you want it to display files & folders, i.e.;
in "detail" view with your particular choice of columns, arranged in your
preferred order.

b). While still displaying the same folder (above) in Explorer, choose from
the top menus ;

"Tools" > "Folder Options"

....and click on the "View" tab. Then press on the "Apply to all folders"
button.

This should re-set all folders to look like the one you set - importantly
(for you) including the columns.

I'm not absolutely sure if, even then, if it will remember if you clicked
on a different column-header other than "Name" to arrange the order by.
But if it does not, then there's absolutely no way to do it, other than to
try the above and see if it works.

P.S. Even after you set this up, XP, and indeed *all* Windows versions,
have an annoying habit of "forgetting" a wide variety of settings you set -
it's just all part of the fun of working with the Windows OS!!

==

Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London.

 

[Mayayana]

Did you try setting it in Folder Options -> Apply to
All folders? I know that the view type doesn't work
there, but I though the sorting style did.

If not, I can tell you what you need to do, but
you'd have to find or write a script or software to do it.

Create this key:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam\Bags\AllFolders\Shell

Create a DWORD value named Sort and set it to 3.
That applies to all new folders. But then there are
also numbered keys for every folder you have opened
in the past:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam\Bags\###

where ### is a number. In the Shell key under each of those you
need to add the same Sort value.

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Do you feel comfortable with script? I have a tool
I wrote to make all folder show the same size and
with the same style. (That was driving me crazy.)
I didn't add the option to control the sorting, but you
can if you want to. See the folder fix download here:

http://www.jsware.net\jsware\xpfix.php5


In the file FolFix.vbs, opened in Notepad,
find this: "Private Sub SetFolderSpecs"

At the end of that sub, just above the line "End Sub"
and below the line that says:

Ret2 = Reg.SetDWordValue(Key1, Path, RegB, B1) ' set bottom spec.

add this line:

Ret2 = Reg.SetDWordValue(Key1, Path, "Sort", 3)

Then save the file, run the HTA, and choose your folder
selections. The tool will add the values to all of the
existing ###\Shell keys, plus the AllFolders\Shell key.

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| Yeah I know how to get it to sort by time/date, why don't you learn how to
read before posting your useless babble;
| I want to have it sorted on time/date BY DEFAULT. XP doesn't remember this
setting, which is excruciatingly annoying to say the least. Whoever coded
that part in Windows XP is a dumb fool, obviously. Similar to what you must
be, ****ing idiot.

 

[Mayayana]

I updated the tool described in the last post.

XP Folder Fix:
http://www.jsware.net\jsware\xpfix.php5

Scroll down to the "Folder Fix" topic. This is a free
utility that has been around for several years,
but didn't have an option to choose sorting mode
before.

The latest update will set:

- folder window size
- folder view style (icon, list, details, or tiles)
- folder sort style (name, date, type, or size) and direction

It sets all existing folders and creates a setting
that will cause all future folders to comply with the
same specifications.

Brief explanation: Windows, up through at least XP, has
a series of bugs in the way folders are handled. Every
time you open a folder, Explorer checks the Registry for
View settings. Every time you close a folder, Explorer
saves View settings. **But Explorer does not save the
settings properly so it ignores them next time the same
folder is opened! This went on for over a decade while
Microsoft simply couldn't be bothered to fix it.**

XP Folder Fix repairs the Registry settings for every
existing folder, and for new folders created in the future,
so that Explorer will obey those settings.