File and print sharing not possible on XP when connecting with win

[Guest]

I have a small home network with XP home edition as the main server. This
systems is also connected to the internet. 3 printers are connected to the XP
box. On the network I have one more XP box and 2 win 98 systems. Internet
connection sharing works for all systems. The client XP system can see the
printers on the XP server. On the win 98 systems I can not install any of
the printers connected to the XP box. The main XP system does not allow any
file sharing (funny, the client XP box does) When right clicking any of the
folders in windows explorer on the XP system, the "sharing and security..."
option is not even listed. All computers see each other on the network
(remember ICS is working). If I try to add a printer to one of the 98 boxes,
when browsing for the printer, the XP box shows up in the window, when
clicking on it i get the message "\\Compaq is not accessible. No permission
to access resource".

I have tried everyting. Spent hours on trying to solve this problem. Any
help is greatly appreciated.

 

[Chuck]

I have a small home network with XP home edition as the main server. This
systems is also connected to the internet. 3 printers are connected to the XP
box. On the network I have one more XP box and 2 win 98 systems. Internet
connection sharing works for all systems. The client XP system can see the
printers on the XP server. On the win 98 systems I can not install any of
the printers connected to the XP box. The main XP system does not allow any
file sharing (funny, the client XP box does) When right clicking any of the
folders in windows explorer on the XP system, the "sharing and security..."
option is not even listed. All computers see each other on the network
(remember ICS is working). If I try to add a printer to one of the 98 boxes,
when browsing for the printer, the XP box shows up in the window, when
clicking on it i get the message "\\Compaq is not accessible. No permission
to access resource".

I have tried everyting. Spent hours on trying to solve this problem. Any
help is greatly appreciated.

Bruna,

XP Home, with Simple File Sharing, won't give you "Sharing and security", that's
a feature for XP Pro with NTFS and Advanced File Sharing. XP Home uses Guest
authentication only.

On XP Home, make sure that the Guest account is enabled. Enable Guest, with
Start - Run - "cmd", then type "net user guest /active:yes" in the command
window. Ensure that the password for Guest is blank, with Start - Run -
"control userpasswords2"; select Guest, click Reset Password, click OK without
entering a new password.

Enable User-Level Access on the Windows 98 computer, and make sure Guest has the
appropriate access.

See the Microsoft document for details about file sharing, between all different
versions of Windows:
<http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...db-aef8-4bef-925e-7ac9be791028&DisplayLang=en>

--
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck sonic net.

 

[Guest]

Hi Chuck,

Thank you for your help. However, I am not sure that you are correct when
you are writing "XP Home, with Simple File Sharing, won't give you "Sharing
and security". In the Microsoft document about "File and printer sharing",
it mentiones the "sharing tab for simple file sharing". This tab is not
present in any of my folders in the XP server box. However, the same tab is
visible in all folders, even the drives on the XP client box I have. This is
the BIG question I have. Why is this different between the 2 XP boxes I
own?????????

The only way I have been able to share files on my XP server with the other
computers on the network was by using the "shared folder" on the XP server.
To connect to this folder, I had to map a network drive to the shared folder.
Connecting to this folder by using "my network places" did not work. All
network computers are visible, but the XP server is not accessible.

This is also what prevents accessing any of the printers on the XP server.
If file sharing does not work, printer sharing doesn't work either.

Any other suggestions?

 

[Chuck]

Hi Chuck,

Thank you for your help. However, I am not sure that you are correct when
you are writing "XP Home, with Simple File Sharing, won't give you "Sharing
and security". In the Microsoft document about "File and printer sharing",
it mentiones the "sharing tab for simple file sharing". This tab is not
present in any of my folders in the XP server box. However, the same tab is
visible in all folders, even the drives on the XP client box I have. This is
the BIG question I have. Why is this different between the 2 XP boxes I
own?????????

The only way I have been able to share files on my XP server with the other
computers on the network was by using the "shared folder" on the XP server.
To connect to this folder, I had to map a network drive to the shared folder.
Connecting to this folder by using "my network places" did not work. All
network computers are visible, but the XP server is not accessible.

This is also what prevents accessing any of the printers on the XP server.
If file sharing does not work, printer sharing doesn't work either.

Any other suggestions?

Bruno,

Right. You get a Sharing tab, but you won't get a Security tab, when you have
Simple File Sharing (XP Home, or XP Pro with SFS enabled). There's no "Sharing
and Security" tab, though there is a "Sharing and Security" context menu
selection.

When you setup the problem computer (using the Network Setup Wizard), did you
select "Turn on file and printer sharing" or "Turn off file and printer
sharing"?

Are you logged in as a Administrative / Full Rights user?

Look at the list of items under Local Area Connection Properties. You need the
following items in the list:
Client for Microsoft Networks
File and Printer Sharing For Microsoft Networks
QoS Packet Scheduler (optional)
Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)

Then, make sure that NetBIOS Over TCP/IP is enabled on both computers. Local
Area Connection - Properties - TCP/IP - Properties - Advanced - WINS - Enable
NetBIOS over TCP/IP.

Then look at (Control Panel - Administrative Tools) - Services. Look for the
Server service. Is the Server service Started and Automatic?

--
Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck sonic net.

 

[Guest]

Hi Chuck,

Thank you for trying to help me. Here the answers to your suggestions:

It's been quite a while since I ran the Network seup wizard, but I am pretty
sure I enabled "file and printer sharing". Should I run the Network setup
wizard again? I read that running the wizard more than once often makes
things worse and that it is better to find the source of the problem.

I amlogged in as a Administrative / Full Rights user

Local Area Connection Properties.
Client for Microsoft Networks is present
File and Printer Sharing For Microsoft Networks is present
QoS Packet Scheduler (not present)
Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) is present

NetBIOS Over TCP/IP is enabled on the XP server. On the 98 machine this
opetion is greyed out. The box is selected however.

The Server service on the XP servier is Started and Automatic.

Regarding the sharing tab: what still confuses me is that on one of my
XP-Home systems (the client) I can get to the sharing tab even for the C:
drive and in this tab under "Network sharing and security" I can elect to
share that folder. On my other XP machine (server) I only can access this tab
on the "shared documents folder" but nowehere else. Why this difference?

Bruno

 

[Chuck]

Hi Chuck,

Thank you for trying to help me. Here the answers to your suggestions:

It's been quite a while since I ran the Network seup wizard, but I am pretty
sure I enabled "file and printer sharing". Should I run the Network setup
wizard again? I read that running the wizard more than once often makes
things worse and that it is better to find the source of the problem.

I amlogged in as a Administrative / Full Rights user

Local Area Connection Properties.
Client for Microsoft Networks is present
File and Printer Sharing For Microsoft Networks is present
QoS Packet Scheduler (not present)
Internet Protocol (TCP/IP) is present

NetBIOS Over TCP/IP is enabled on the XP server. On the 98 machine this
opetion is greyed out. The box is selected however.

The Server service on the XP servier is Started and Automatic.

Regarding the sharing tab: what still confuses me is that on one of my
XP-Home systems (the client) I can get to the sharing tab even for the C:
drive and in this tab under "Network sharing and security" I can elect to
share that folder. On my other XP machine (server) I only can access this tab
on the "shared documents folder" but nowehere else. Why this difference?

Bruno

Bruno,

Are bother the server and the client running Windows XP Home? Were they both
loaded from scratch, or was either upgraded from Windows 98?

What is this "Network sharing and security" tab? Like I said, I have a
"Sharing" tab, but no "Security" tab, with XP Pro and Simple File Sharing. XP
Home should be the same.

If we can get around this issue of what tabs you may or may not have, I'll bet
part of your problem "\\Compaq is not accessible. No permission to access
resource" is a browser issue. I"m not talking about Internet Explorer here. The
browser is the program that allows any computer to see any other computer on the
LAN. The browsers for WinXP (WinNT/2K/XP) and Win98 (Win95/98/ME) don't work
well together on the same LAN.

Make sure the browser service is running on the WinXP computers. Control Panel
- Administrative Tools - Services. Verify that the Computer Browser, and the
TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper, services both show with Status = Started. Disable the
browser on the Win98 and WinME computers:
http://cms.simons-rock.edu/faq_by_subtopic/node138.html
http://www.compudentsystems.com/documentation/win98.html

After checking / disabling / enabling as above, power all computers off to reset
the browser settings on each. Once ALL computers have been powered off, power
them back on.

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Cheers,
Chuck
Paranoia comes from experience - and is not necessarily a bad thing.
My email is AT DOT
actual address pchuck sonic net.