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JoAnn Paules [MVP]

D'ya ever notice that hole is never close enough nor deep enough to hide in?

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




Greg Maxey said:
I don't think we are dealing with a stupid person. I think we are dealing
with a lonely person. Usually when I say or do something stupid I try to
find a hole to crawl into and avoid attention. This poor soul wants
attention and is therefore perpetuating this silly string.

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Keith and I were discussing this earlier this evening. He agrees with
me - it's a stupid question. Even if you say adding a bullet is a
feature. But then you can change the color of the bullet, the size,
the font, the space before, the space after, the paragraph format
before, the paragraph format after, etc.

Had I been asked that question in a class, I would have asked the
instructor to define the term "feature".


Suzanne S. Barnhill said:
Several of us did ask you to reword the question. And "too many to
count" was, in effect, the answer we gave you. Whether the number is
1,800 or 2,500, that's still too many to count.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
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all may benefit.

First of all, all I did was ask a question. Yeah maybe it could
have been
worded different. But instead of saying so JoAnn started by
calling it stupid. Why? I was once told the only stupid question
is the one not asked. And the rest of you have done no better. Instead
of asking me to reword my question you fling insults at it.
I would have been glad to have done that. But instead I was
defending myself against people I don't even know. And in turn do
not know me. John to say someone is stupid puts you in the pool
with them. You don't know me so how can you judge if I am stupid
or not. As far you statement "Someone once told me that the most
important thing when you find yourself arguing with an idiot is to
ensure that he is not
doing the same..." you failed. Espeacially when you said "Duh!"

I apologize to all for bringing this question to your attention. It was
my hope that someone had heard this question before and
could help me with it. Like I told JoAnn before she started
insulting me "Any help would be apperciated." To tell you the
truth I didn't know what the Professor meant by features either. That's
why I gave some examples of what I thought they were to
JoAnn when she asked. And this was not my homework in any case. It was
just one of those
questions that teachers ask to make you think. And I did, I
thought that there were too many to count. And some of you kind of
gave me that answer
but not in a kind way.

I don't know why I am explaining this to a group of people I don't
even know. Maybe because I reached out for help and knowledge and
got nothing in turn. So maybe the next time someone ask a stupid
question you won't belittle them and say they are stupid. Maybe
you can use a little tact and try to get the person to reword their
question. Or just don't bother with
it
if it can't be answered. In many cases a simple "I can't answer
that question the way it is worded. Could you reword it please?" Or "I
can not answer that question because there is no answer." Or
something to that effect would have been better.

And John I was not trying to be arrogant. I don't know how that
came across. But I am far from being an arrogant person.

I pray that all your lives are going well.

Thank you




:

1,800 and No.

There! Suzanne is right, and you are unbelievably stupid. Arrogant
too, but stupid people usually are...

You see, you have not defined what a "Feature" is. How could
anyone count things when you haven't said what it is? Duh!

Still, if you want to go ahead and believe whoever gave you a
number of 2,500 to a question for which there is not answer, you
go right ahead :) Someone once told me that the most important
thing when you find yourself arguing with an idiot is to ensure
that he is not doing the same... On 22/7/06 9:02 AM, in article
(e-mail address removed), "godmongo"

Its well over 2500. Thats an answer to my question. Someone else
was
able
to answer this were you and the others could not. Oh and if you
notice my question has two parts. The second part states "Has
anyone ever gotten the count of features that are on word?" This
one in a way would have eliminated my first question. Just by
someone answering "We don't think so." or
"Maybe
someone has but we don't know who or what the answer is." Well
since apparently none of you had, your answer should have been
No. So no one needs to reply anymore.


:

You're still not getting it. It's not that we don't know the
answer or that we know and just aren't telling you: you have
asked a question to which THERE IS NO ANSWER. I suspect that
even if you asked the devs at Microsoft who designed Word, you
would not get an answer. As others have suggested, if you can
phrase the question in such a way that you are asking for
something that can actually be counted, then you might be closer
to an answer. --
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

To all of you who have responded to my question. I have not
gotten an answer to the question, just statments and comments
about it. So if you would please not respond to my question
just to take it apart. That's not
an
answer. I am sorry that I have asked a question that you do
not know the answer to and your pride is now hurt. Quit
throwing a fit and do not respond unless you have an answer.

:

You phrased quite nicely. Thank you.

(BTW - would you contact me offline? I have a odd question to
ask you not related to Word. Nothing major.)

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




message JoAnn is a serious person. But you haven't asked a serious
question. It is almost like asking how many colors there are.
It depends on what you mean by color. I believe the classic
scholarly question along these lines is "How many angels can
dance on the head of a pin?" You (or your professor) may want
to spend your time debating such questions, but don't expect

everyone else to spend their time doing so.

If you asked how many menu commands are built into Word's
edit interface, that question would have an answer. (And I
would tell you to go ahead and count them as it is your
homework, not ours.) --
Charles Kenyon

Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented
version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide)
http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ:
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is
awesome!


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message
I am sorry JoAnn but I need only serious people to answer my
question thank
you. You seem to be a closed minded individual who is just
looking to insult
someone. And for your information a college professor asked
me that question
so it can't be that stupid. Just FYI if you are not smart
enough
to
answer a
question don't get mad and start throwing insults around. It's
best that you
don't even get involved if you don't know the answer. Thanks
but no thanks.

:

Please excuse this but ...that's a stupid question. (You
may quote me.) For
some being able to change the color of the "paper" that you
work on is a
feature.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




message
I am not sure. Someone asked me and now I am trying to
find the answer.
It
may be anything that you can do on Microsoft Office Word.
From
spell
check,
bullets, to find and replace or starting a new document. Any
help would
be
appreciated thou.

:

It all depends on what you're calling a feature.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




message
How many features does microsoft word have? Has anyone
ever gotten the
count
of features that are on word.














--

Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do
not email me unless I ask you to.

John McGhie <[email protected]>
Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Consultant Technical
Writer
Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410
 
P

Patrick Schmid

As to the original question: To give you a few statistics:
- Number of top-level menu items in Word 2003: ~260
- number of toolbars and task pane in Word 2003: ~50
- a toolbar contains between 10 and 50 commands (some prob. duplicated)
Source: http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh/archive/2006/04/04/568249.aspx

As to how many features there are in total: It really depends what you
count as feature. The best estimate (and probably what MS would consider
to be a feature) is if you look in the "All Commands" list of the
toolbar/QAT customization dialog. Keep in mind though that some of those
commands open dialog boxes and certain features might only be usable via
such a dialog box. Hence the number you get from that list is probably a
lower bound.

Patrick Schmid
--------------
http://pschmid.net

D'ya ever notice that hole is never close enough nor deep enough to hide in?

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




Greg Maxey said:
I don't think we are dealing with a stupid person. I think we are dealing
with a lonely person. Usually when I say or do something stupid I try to
find a hole to crawl into and avoid attention. This poor soul wants
attention and is therefore perpetuating this silly string.

--
Greg Maxey/Word MVP
See:
http://gregmaxey.mvps.org/word_tips.htm
For some helpful tips using Word.

Keith and I were discussing this earlier this evening. He agrees with
me - it's a stupid question. Even if you say adding a bullet is a
feature. But then you can change the color of the bullet, the size,
the font, the space before, the space after, the paragraph format
before, the paragraph format after, etc.

Had I been asked that question in a class, I would have asked the
instructor to define the term "feature".


Several of us did ask you to reword the question. And "too many to
count" was, in effect, the answer we gave you. Whether the number is
1,800 or 2,500, that's still too many to count.

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so
all may benefit.

First of all, all I did was ask a question. Yeah maybe it could
have been
worded different. But instead of saying so JoAnn started by
calling it stupid. Why? I was once told the only stupid question
is the one not asked. And the rest of you have done no better. Instead
of asking me to reword my question you fling insults at it.
I would have been glad to have done that. But instead I was
defending myself against people I don't even know. And in turn do
not know me. John to say someone is stupid puts you in the pool
with them. You don't know me so how can you judge if I am stupid
or not. As far you statement "Someone once told me that the most
important thing when you find yourself arguing with an idiot is to
ensure that he is not
doing the same..." you failed. Espeacially when you said "Duh!"

I apologize to all for bringing this question to your attention. It was
my hope that someone had heard this question before and
could help me with it. Like I told JoAnn before she started
insulting me "Any help would be apperciated." To tell you the
truth I didn't know what the Professor meant by features either. That's
why I gave some examples of what I thought they were to
JoAnn when she asked. And this was not my homework in any case. It was
just one of those
questions that teachers ask to make you think. And I did, I
thought that there were too many to count. And some of you kind of
gave me that answer
but not in a kind way.

I don't know why I am explaining this to a group of people I don't
even know. Maybe because I reached out for help and knowledge and
got nothing in turn. So maybe the next time someone ask a stupid
question you won't belittle them and say they are stupid. Maybe
you can use a little tact and try to get the person to reword their
question. Or just don't bother with
it
if it can't be answered. In many cases a simple "I can't answer
that question the way it is worded. Could you reword it please?" Or "I
can not answer that question because there is no answer." Or
something to that effect would have been better.

And John I was not trying to be arrogant. I don't know how that
came across. But I am far from being an arrogant person.

I pray that all your lives are going well.

Thank you




:

1,800 and No.

There! Suzanne is right, and you are unbelievably stupid. Arrogant
too, but stupid people usually are...

You see, you have not defined what a "Feature" is. How could
anyone count things when you haven't said what it is? Duh!

Still, if you want to go ahead and believe whoever gave you a
number of 2,500 to a question for which there is not answer, you
go right ahead :) Someone once told me that the most important
thing when you find yourself arguing with an idiot is to ensure
that he is not doing the same... On 22/7/06 9:02 AM, in article
(e-mail address removed), "godmongo"

Its well over 2500. Thats an answer to my question. Someone else
was
able
to answer this were you and the others could not. Oh and if you
notice my question has two parts. The second part states "Has
anyone ever gotten the count of features that are on word?" This
one in a way would have eliminated my first question. Just by
someone answering "We don't think so." or
"Maybe
someone has but we don't know who or what the answer is." Well
since apparently none of you had, your answer should have been
No. So no one needs to reply anymore.


:

You're still not getting it. It's not that we don't know the
answer or that we know and just aren't telling you: you have
asked a question to which THERE IS NO ANSWER. I suspect that
even if you asked the devs at Microsoft who designed Word, you
would not get an answer. As others have suggested, if you can
phrase the question in such a way that you are asking for
something that can actually be counted, then you might be closer
to an answer. --
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

Email cannot be acknowledged; please post all follow-ups to the
newsgroup so all may benefit.

To all of you who have responded to my question. I have not
gotten an answer to the question, just statments and comments
about it. So if you would please not respond to my question
just to take it apart. That's not
an
answer. I am sorry that I have asked a question that you do
not know the answer to and your pride is now hurt. Quit
throwing a fit and do not respond unless you have an answer.

:

You phrased quite nicely. Thank you.

(BTW - would you contact me offline? I have a odd question to
ask you not related to Word. Nothing major.)

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




message JoAnn is a serious person. But you haven't asked a serious
question. It is almost like asking how many colors there are.
It depends on what you mean by color. I believe the classic
scholarly question along these lines is "How many angels can
dance on the head of a pin?" You (or your professor) may want
to spend your time debating such questions, but don't expect

everyone else to spend their time doing so.

If you asked how many menu commands are built into Word's
edit interface, that question would have an answer. (And I
would tell you to go ahead and count them as it is your
homework, not ours.) --
Charles Kenyon

Word New User FAQ & Web Directory: http://addbalance.com/word

Intermediate User's Guide to Microsoft Word (supplemented
version of Microsoft's Legal Users' Guide)
http://addbalance.com/usersguide See also the MVP FAQ:
http://word.mvps.org/FAQs/ which is
awesome!


--------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------
This message is posted to a newsgroup. Please post replies
and questions to the newsgroup so that others can learn
from my ignorance and your wisdom.


message
I am sorry JoAnn but I need only serious people to answer my
question thank
you. You seem to be a closed minded individual who is just
looking to insult
someone. And for your information a college professor asked
me that question
so it can't be that stupid. Just FYI if you are not smart
enough
to
answer a
question don't get mad and start throwing insults around. It's
best that you
don't even get involved if you don't know the answer. Thanks
but no thanks.

:

Please excuse this but ...that's a stupid question. (You
may quote me.) For
some being able to change the color of the "paper" that you
work on is a
feature.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




message
I am not sure. Someone asked me and now I am trying to
find the answer.
It
may be anything that you can do on Microsoft Office Word.
From
spell
check,
bullets, to find and replace or starting a new document. Any
help would
be
appreciated thou.

:

It all depends on what you're calling a feature.

--

JoAnn Paules
MVP Microsoft [Publisher]




message
How many features does microsoft word have? Has anyone
ever gotten the
count
of features that are on word.














--

Please reply to the newsgroup to maintain the thread. Please do
not email me unless I ask you to.

John McGhie <[email protected]>
Microsoft MVP, Word and Word for Macintosh. Consultant Technical
Writer
Sydney, Australia +61 (0) 4 1209 1410
 

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