Fax JPEG images with Fax Console?


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Guest

When I attempt to fax a JPEG image it fails.

Is it possible to configure this program to fax JPEG attachments?
 
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Hal Hostetler [MVP P/I]

The Fax Transport does not handle rendering. Rendering is done by the
application in which the file is created and is accomplished by printing the
file to the Fax printer.

Hal
--
Hal Hostetler, CPBE -- (e-mail address removed)
Senior Engineer/MIS -- MS MVP-Print/Imaging -- WA7BGX
http://www.kvoa.com -- "When News breaks, we fix it!"
KVOA Television, Tucson, AZ. NBC Channel 4
Still Cadillacin' - www.badnewsbluesband.com
 
G

Guest

I don't understand your response.

So I take a picture with my digital camera which produces a JPEG. Transfer
it to my computers hard drive. Attach it to an outgoing fax in outlook. Click
send. The fax fails.

Why won't it fax JPEG attachments?
 
M

Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

As Hal said, they need to be rendered first.

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Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

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After furious head scratching, ctc asked:

| I don't understand your response.
|
| So I take a picture with my digital camera which produces a JPEG.
| Transfer it to my computers hard drive. Attach it to an outgoing fax
| in outlook. Click send. The fax fails.
|
| Why won't it fax JPEG attachments?
|
| "Hal Hostetler [MVP P/I]" wrote:
|
|| The Fax Transport does not handle rendering. Rendering is done by
|| the application in which the file is created and is accomplished by
|| printing the file to the Fax printer.
||
|| Hal
|| --
|| Hal Hostetler, CPBE -- (e-mail address removed)
|| Senior Engineer/MIS -- MS MVP-Print/Imaging -- WA7BGX
|| http://www.kvoa.com -- "When News breaks, we fix it!"
|| KVOA Television, Tucson, AZ. NBC Channel 4
|| Still Cadillacin' - www.badnewsbluesband.com
||
|| ||| When I attempt to fax a JPEG image it fails.
|||
||| Is it possible to configure this program to fax JPEG attachments?
 
G

Guest

Thank you, but I don't know what rendering a jpeg image means.

Let me try to ask it in a slightly different way.

I know how to create, modify, use in various programs, "save as" to a
different file types, all tif, jpeg, bmp, pdf, etc. file types. All of these
file types work as attachments to outgoing faxes except jpeg. What does
"rendered" mean and can you explain how to do it?
 
R

Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]

As Hal said, use the Print function in the application in which the image
was created to Print to the Fax Printer. That will take care of rendering.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
ctc said:
Thank you, but I don't know what rendering a jpeg image means.

Let me try to ask it in a slightly different way.

I know how to create, modify, use in various programs, "save as" to a
different file types, all tif, jpeg, bmp, pdf, etc. file types. All of
these
file types work as attachments to outgoing faxes except jpeg. What does
"rendered" mean and can you explain how to do it?

Milly Staples said:
As Hal said, they need to be rendered first.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.


After furious head scratching, ctc asked:

| I don't understand your response.
|
| So I take a picture with my digital camera which produces a JPEG.
| Transfer it to my computers hard drive. Attach it to an outgoing fax
| in outlook. Click send. The fax fails.
|
| Why won't it fax JPEG attachments?
|
| "Hal Hostetler [MVP P/I]" wrote:
|
|| The Fax Transport does not handle rendering. Rendering is done by
|| the application in which the file is created and is accomplished by
|| printing the file to the Fax printer.
||
|| Hal
|| --
|| Hal Hostetler, CPBE -- (e-mail address removed)
|| Senior Engineer/MIS -- MS MVP-Print/Imaging -- WA7BGX
|| http://www.kvoa.com -- "When News breaks, we fix it!"
|| KVOA Television, Tucson, AZ. NBC Channel 4
|| Still Cadillacin' - www.badnewsbluesband.com
||
|| ||| When I attempt to fax a JPEG image it fails.
|||
||| Is it possible to configure this program to fax JPEG attachments?
 
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G

Guest

As I said, these are pictures from a digital camera. There is no program
associated with creating them. Additionally I fax through outlook. Printing
to the fax driver does not provide me with the documentation I need.

Russ Valentine said:
As Hal said, use the Print function in the application in which the image
was created to Print to the Fax Printer. That will take care of rendering.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
ctc said:
Thank you, but I don't know what rendering a jpeg image means.

Let me try to ask it in a slightly different way.

I know how to create, modify, use in various programs, "save as" to a
different file types, all tif, jpeg, bmp, pdf, etc. file types. All of
these
file types work as attachments to outgoing faxes except jpeg. What does
"rendered" mean and can you explain how to do it?

Milly Staples said:
As Hal said, they need to be rendered first.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.


After furious head scratching, ctc asked:

| I don't understand your response.
|
| So I take a picture with my digital camera which produces a JPEG.
| Transfer it to my computers hard drive. Attach it to an outgoing fax
| in outlook. Click send. The fax fails.
|
| Why won't it fax JPEG attachments?
|
| "Hal Hostetler [MVP P/I]" wrote:
|
|| The Fax Transport does not handle rendering. Rendering is done by
|| the application in which the file is created and is accomplished by
|| printing the file to the Fax printer.
||
|| Hal
|| --
|| Hal Hostetler, CPBE -- (e-mail address removed)
|| Senior Engineer/MIS -- MS MVP-Print/Imaging -- WA7BGX
|| http://www.kvoa.com -- "When News breaks, we fix it!"
|| KVOA Television, Tucson, AZ. NBC Channel 4
|| Still Cadillacin' - www.badnewsbluesband.com
||
|| ||| When I attempt to fax a JPEG image it fails.
|||
||| Is it possible to configure this program to fax JPEG attachments?
 
R

Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]

You do not understand. The fact that the picture was taken with your digital
camera is irrelevant. Your operating system still has a program that is
designated as its default for displaying and rendering JPEG files. Only you
know what that program is. If you don't know, then look at your file
associations for JPEG files. That is the program that is responsible for
rendering your file. Not the Fax program. Not Outlook.
One must wonder why you are trying to fax a JPEG and whether you know what
the likely outcome will be.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
ctc said:
As I said, these are pictures from a digital camera. There is no program
associated with creating them. Additionally I fax through outlook.
Printing
to the fax driver does not provide me with the documentation I need.

Russ Valentine said:
As Hal said, use the Print function in the application in which the image
was created to Print to the Fax Printer. That will take care of
rendering.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
ctc said:
Thank you, but I don't know what rendering a jpeg image means.

Let me try to ask it in a slightly different way.

I know how to create, modify, use in various programs, "save as" to a
different file types, all tif, jpeg, bmp, pdf, etc. file types. All of
these
file types work as attachments to outgoing faxes except jpeg. What does
"rendered" mean and can you explain how to do it?

:

As Hal said, they need to be rendered first.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.


After furious head scratching, ctc asked:

| I don't understand your response.
|
| So I take a picture with my digital camera which produces a JPEG.
| Transfer it to my computers hard drive. Attach it to an outgoing fax
| in outlook. Click send. The fax fails.
|
| Why won't it fax JPEG attachments?
|
| "Hal Hostetler [MVP P/I]" wrote:
|
|| The Fax Transport does not handle rendering. Rendering is done by
|| the application in which the file is created and is accomplished by
|| printing the file to the Fax printer.
||
|| Hal
|| --
|| Hal Hostetler, CPBE -- (e-mail address removed)
|| Senior Engineer/MIS -- MS MVP-Print/Imaging -- WA7BGX
|| http://www.kvoa.com -- "When News breaks, we fix it!"
|| KVOA Television, Tucson, AZ. NBC Channel 4
|| Still Cadillacin' - www.badnewsbluesband.com
||
|| ||| When I attempt to fax a JPEG image it fails.
|||
||| Is it possible to configure this program to fax JPEG attachments?
 
M

Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

All files and programs on your computer are simply a series of 1s and 0s.
To send a fax, these 1s and 0s need to be rendered into a format that will
display the picture as something other than random numbers and letters that
represent the picture, hence the requirement to "render" these 1s and 0s
into a format that will display the picture when faxed.

Computers 101.


--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, ctc asked:

| As I said, these are pictures from a digital camera. There is no
| program associated with creating them. Additionally I fax through
| outlook. Printing to the fax driver does not provide me with the
| documentation I need.
|
| "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:
|
|| As Hal said, use the Print function in the application in which the
|| image was created to Print to the Fax Printer. That will take care
|| of rendering. --
|| Russ Valentine
|| [MVP-Outlook]
|| ||| Thank you, but I don't know what rendering a jpeg image means.
|||
||| Let me try to ask it in a slightly different way.
|||
||| I know how to create, modify, use in various programs, "save as" to
||| a different file types, all tif, jpeg, bmp, pdf, etc. file types.
||| All of these
||| file types work as attachments to outgoing faxes except jpeg. What
||| does "rendered" mean and can you explain how to do it?
|||
||| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
|||
|||| As Hal said, they need to be rendered first.
||||
|||| --
|||| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||||
|||| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
|||| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted
|||| without reading.
||||
||||
|||| After furious head scratching, ctc asked:
||||
||||| I don't understand your response.
|||||
||||| So I take a picture with my digital camera which produces a JPEG.
||||| Transfer it to my computers hard drive. Attach it to an outgoing
||||| fax in outlook. Click send. The fax fails.
|||||
||||| Why won't it fax JPEG attachments?
|||||
||||| "Hal Hostetler [MVP P/I]" wrote:
|||||
|||||| The Fax Transport does not handle rendering. Rendering is done
|||||| by the application in which the file is created and is
|||||| accomplished by printing the file to the Fax printer.
||||||
|||||| Hal
|||||| --
|||||| Hal Hostetler, CPBE -- (e-mail address removed)
|||||| Senior Engineer/MIS -- MS MVP-Print/Imaging -- WA7BGX
|||||| http://www.kvoa.com -- "When News breaks, we fix it!"
|||||| KVOA Television, Tucson, AZ. NBC Channel 4
|||||| Still Cadillacin' - www.badnewsbluesband.com
||||||
|||||| ||||||| When I attempt to fax a JPEG image it fails.
|||||||
||||||| Is it possible to configure this program to fax JPEG
||||||| attachments?
 
G

Guest

Since many contractors still do not use email I am compelled to fax all
written and image communications to them. Some of those images come in the
form of jpg. I was hoping there was a way to fax the jpg directly rather than
take the additional step of saving it to a tif format and then faxing it.
Thats all...

Thanks for trying to help.

Russ Valentine said:
You do not understand. The fact that the picture was taken with your digital
camera is irrelevant. Your operating system still has a program that is
designated as its default for displaying and rendering JPEG files. Only you
know what that program is. If you don't know, then look at your file
associations for JPEG files. That is the program that is responsible for
rendering your file. Not the Fax program. Not Outlook.
One must wonder why you are trying to fax a JPEG and whether you know what
the likely outcome will be.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
ctc said:
As I said, these are pictures from a digital camera. There is no program
associated with creating them. Additionally I fax through outlook.
Printing
to the fax driver does not provide me with the documentation I need.

Russ Valentine said:
As Hal said, use the Print function in the application in which the image
was created to Print to the Fax Printer. That will take care of
rendering.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
Thank you, but I don't know what rendering a jpeg image means.

Let me try to ask it in a slightly different way.

I know how to create, modify, use in various programs, "save as" to a
different file types, all tif, jpeg, bmp, pdf, etc. file types. All of
these
file types work as attachments to outgoing faxes except jpeg. What does
"rendered" mean and can you explain how to do it?

:

As Hal said, they need to be rendered first.

--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.


After furious head scratching, ctc asked:

| I don't understand your response.
|
| So I take a picture with my digital camera which produces a JPEG.
| Transfer it to my computers hard drive. Attach it to an outgoing fax
| in outlook. Click send. The fax fails.
|
| Why won't it fax JPEG attachments?
|
| "Hal Hostetler [MVP P/I]" wrote:
|
|| The Fax Transport does not handle rendering. Rendering is done by
|| the application in which the file is created and is accomplished by
|| printing the file to the Fax printer.
||
|| Hal
|| --
|| Hal Hostetler, CPBE -- (e-mail address removed)
|| Senior Engineer/MIS -- MS MVP-Print/Imaging -- WA7BGX
|| http://www.kvoa.com -- "When News breaks, we fix it!"
|| KVOA Television, Tucson, AZ. NBC Channel 4
|| Still Cadillacin' - www.badnewsbluesband.com
||
|| ||| When I attempt to fax a JPEG image it fails.
|||
||| Is it possible to configure this program to fax JPEG attachments?
 
G

Guest

Thanks for making it simple.

But why don't I have to render my tifs to fax them?

Milly Staples said:
All files and programs on your computer are simply a series of 1s and 0s.
To send a fax, these 1s and 0s need to be rendered into a format that will
display the picture as something other than random numbers and letters that
represent the picture, hence the requirement to "render" these 1s and 0s
into a format that will display the picture when faxed.

Computers 101.


--Â
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, ctc asked:

| As I said, these are pictures from a digital camera. There is no
| program associated with creating them. Additionally I fax through
| outlook. Printing to the fax driver does not provide me with the
| documentation I need.
|
| "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:
|
|| As Hal said, use the Print function in the application in which the
|| image was created to Print to the Fax Printer. That will take care
|| of rendering. --
|| Russ Valentine
|| [MVP-Outlook]
|| ||| Thank you, but I don't know what rendering a jpeg image means.
|||
||| Let me try to ask it in a slightly different way.
|||
||| I know how to create, modify, use in various programs, "save as" to
||| a different file types, all tif, jpeg, bmp, pdf, etc. file types.
||| All of these
||| file types work as attachments to outgoing faxes except jpeg. What
||| does "rendered" mean and can you explain how to do it?
|||
||| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
|||
|||| As Hal said, they need to be rendered first.
||||
|||| --
|||| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||||
|||| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
|||| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted
|||| without reading.
||||
||||
|||| After furious head scratching, ctc asked:
||||
||||| I don't understand your response.
|||||
||||| So I take a picture with my digital camera which produces a JPEG.
||||| Transfer it to my computers hard drive. Attach it to an outgoing
||||| fax in outlook. Click send. The fax fails.
|||||
||||| Why won't it fax JPEG attachments?
|||||
||||| "Hal Hostetler [MVP P/I]" wrote:
|||||
|||||| The Fax Transport does not handle rendering. Rendering is done
|||||| by the application in which the file is created and is
|||||| accomplished by printing the file to the Fax printer.
||||||
|||||| Hal
|||||| --
|||||| Hal Hostetler, CPBE -- (e-mail address removed)
|||||| Senior Engineer/MIS -- MS MVP-Print/Imaging -- WA7BGX
|||||| http://www.kvoa.com -- "When News breaks, we fix it!"
|||||| KVOA Television, Tucson, AZ. NBC Channel 4
|||||| Still Cadillacin' - www.badnewsbluesband.com
||||||
|||||| ||||||| When I attempt to fax a JPEG image it fails.
|||||||
||||||| Is it possible to configure this program to fax JPEG
||||||| attachments?
 
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R

Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]

You do. All files must be rendered to be printed or faxed.
The difference here is that you have a program defined to render TIF files.
You appear not to have a file defined to render JPEG files. Again, only you
can determine that.
Once you figure that out, you will then find that JPEG files are typically
so large that faxing them may take an hour or more.
--
Russ Valentine
[MVP-Outlook]
ctc said:
Thanks for making it simple.

But why don't I have to render my tifs to fax them?

Milly Staples said:
All files and programs on your computer are simply a series of 1s and 0s.
To send a fax, these 1s and 0s need to be rendered into a format that
will
display the picture as something other than random numbers and letters
that
represent the picture, hence the requirement to "render" these 1s and 0s
into a format that will display the picture when faxed.

Computers 101.


--
Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]

Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted without
reading.

After furious head scratching, ctc asked:

| As I said, these are pictures from a digital camera. There is no
| program associated with creating them. Additionally I fax through
| outlook. Printing to the fax driver does not provide me with the
| documentation I need.
|
| "Russ Valentine [MVP-Outlook]" wrote:
|
|| As Hal said, use the Print function in the application in which the
|| image was created to Print to the Fax Printer. That will take care
|| of rendering. --
|| Russ Valentine
|| [MVP-Outlook]
|| ||| Thank you, but I don't know what rendering a jpeg image means.
|||
||| Let me try to ask it in a slightly different way.
|||
||| I know how to create, modify, use in various programs, "save as" to
||| a different file types, all tif, jpeg, bmp, pdf, etc. file types.
||| All of these
||| file types work as attachments to outgoing faxes except jpeg. What
||| does "rendered" mean and can you explain how to do it?
|||
||| "Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]" wrote:
|||
|||| As Hal said, they need to be rendered first.
||||
|||| --
|||| Milly Staples [MVP - Outlook]
||||
|||| Post all replies to the group to keep the discussion intact. All
|||| unsolicited mail sent to my personal account will be deleted
|||| without reading.
||||
||||
|||| After furious head scratching, ctc asked:
||||
||||| I don't understand your response.
|||||
||||| So I take a picture with my digital camera which produces a JPEG.
||||| Transfer it to my computers hard drive. Attach it to an outgoing
||||| fax in outlook. Click send. The fax fails.
|||||
||||| Why won't it fax JPEG attachments?
|||||
||||| "Hal Hostetler [MVP P/I]" wrote:
|||||
|||||| The Fax Transport does not handle rendering. Rendering is done
|||||| by the application in which the file is created and is
|||||| accomplished by printing the file to the Fax printer.
||||||
|||||| Hal
|||||| --
|||||| Hal Hostetler, CPBE -- (e-mail address removed)
|||||| Senior Engineer/MIS -- MS MVP-Print/Imaging -- WA7BGX
|||||| http://www.kvoa.com -- "When News breaks, we fix it!"
|||||| KVOA Television, Tucson, AZ. NBC Channel 4
|||||| Still Cadillacin' - www.badnewsbluesband.com
||||||
|||||| ||||||| When I attempt to fax a JPEG image it fails.
|||||||
||||||| Is it possible to configure this program to fax JPEG
||||||| attachments?
 
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