Everyone who has low audio recording with ATI Radeon AIW...

[ANTant]

Assuming you already cranked up the line in to its max in recording
setting, do you have a Creative Labs sound card? I heard changing to a
non-CL soundcard fixes this issue. I am using an old SB Live Plantinum
without its LiveDrive and the latest CL drivers! I want to be sure that
this is a CL's issue.

Thank you in advance.

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[JAD]

CSBA2P 9700AIW/7500 no problems recording or otherwise..

 

[Laurence Wilmer]

Assuming you already cranked up the line in to its max in recording
setting, do you have a Creative Labs sound card? I heard changing to a
non-CL soundcard fixes this issue. I am using an old SB Live Plantinum
without its LiveDrive and the latest CL drivers! I want to be sure that
this is a CL's issue.

Thank you in advance.

The only way to be sure is to try it and see, as no-one else has just the
same PC as you configured in the same way.

OK, so you knew that already! All I know is that another post in this NG
said he replaced SB with a Turtle Beach Santa Cruz and that was the end of
volume probs. I did the same and found the same.
Good luck!
Laurence

 

[Martin Vallevand]

Assuming you already cranked up the line in to its max in recording
setting, do you have a Creative Labs sound card? I heard changing to a
non-CL soundcard fixes this issue. I am using an old SB Live Plantinum
without its LiveDrive and the latest CL drivers! I want to be sure that
this is a CL's issue.

I've had a noise/static/hiss/low volume problem with my original AIW
Radeon and both my on-board C-Media sound and previously with a SB Live
Value!. I have a Via chipset on both motherboards I've tried so I
figured this was the problem. It always bothered me and I tried to fix
it with software for years without success. I got a DVD burner recently
and figured I'd try again.

My first step was I disabled my C-Media sound and I installed the old SB
Live Value. It's working great! And to think I've had the solution on
the shelf for over a year.

Of course there is something else. As a test, when I went to record my
first DVD off digital cable the optimum setup didn't work. There seems to
be a loud ground fault hum when I connect audio cables. I had to connect
by cable and record on channel 3. Sadly, I found the digital box didn't
output stereo this way.

Martin

 

[JAD]

your problems are most likey the '4 in 1's' not updated... VIA

 

[Martin Vallevand]

your problems are most likey the '4 in 1's' not updated... VIA

No, the problem right now was most likely the cmedia onboard. I've always
got the latest 4 in 1's hoping to cure the problem. Probably the old mother
board had via driver problems who knows.

Martin.

 

[JAD]

P4B266 c-media never had the problem...although, i was not using the MB drivers from the CD
VIA chippsets without those updates are a PITA

 

[Daniel Tonks]

Assuming you already cranked up the line in to its max in recording
setting, do you have a Creative Labs sound card? I heard changing to a
non-CL soundcard fixes this issue. I am using an old SB Live Plantinum
without its LiveDrive and the latest CL drivers! I want to be sure that
this is a CL's issue.

Thank you in advance.

With the record line level set to MAX the recording level is acceptable on
my Audigy 2 & AIW 9700 Pro, but still not as loud as watching live TV. I do
note that the 9700 has a LOWER TV volume level than previous AIW cards,
ignoring the sound card here. However, I do have a couple issues (I'm still
using MMC 8.1 so I don't know if any of these are fixed).

* MMC insists on selecting "What You Hear" rather than "Analog Mix". This
means that all system events, like dings and new mail, are recorded along
with the TV program.

* MMC insists on setting the volume level about 3/4 from max. I know this
can be adjusted in the registry, but it shouldn't be needed. I also know
that it probably does this to prevent overloading while recording, but
that's far from a problem with the low level the card produces. I've also
noted that (at least with MMC 8.1) if I override the record level registry
setting each time I load MMC is lowers the value by one (so eventually it'll
get where it was before).

* A couple times for no apparent reason I've had an INCREDIBLY low record
level. Maybe twice in a few hundred recordings.

When I upgrade to the AIW 9800 I'll be installing the latest versions of MMC
and will see what happens then...

- Daniel

 

[ANTant]

With the record line level set to MAX the recording level is acceptable on
my Audigy 2 & AIW 9700 Pro, but still not as loud as watching live TV. I do
note that the 9700 has a LOWER TV volume level than previous AIW cards,
ignoring the sound card here. However, I do have a couple issues (I'm still
using MMC 8.1 so I don't know if any of these are fixed).

* MMC insists on selecting "What You Hear" rather than "Analog Mix". This
means that all system events, like dings and new mail, are recorded along
with the TV program.

Doesn't your MMC wizard let you pick Line In? It did for me. I am using
the newest version of MMC. I am not sure if v8.1 has this feature.

* MMC insists on setting the volume level about 3/4 from max. I know this
can be adjusted in the registry, but it shouldn't be needed. I also know
that it probably does this to prevent overloading while recording, but
that's far from a problem with the low level the card produces. I've also
noted that (at least with MMC 8.1) if I override the record level registry
setting each time I load MMC is lowers the value by one (so eventually it'll
get where it was before).

* A couple times for no apparent reason I've had an INCREDIBLY low record
level. Maybe twice in a few hundred recordings.

When I upgrade to the AIW 9800 I'll be installing the latest versions of MMC
and will see what happens then...

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[Daniel Tonks]

Doesn't your MMC wizard let you pick Line In? It did for me. I am using
the newest version of MMC. I am not sure if v8.1 has this feature.

It only lets you pick the input for TV volume control - the record source
seems automatic. I do know that a bunch of stuff has changed in later MMC's,
but since driver installs are SOMETIMES a big production (I've been through
many ATI drivers in the past where multimedia functionalty was simply
broken) I only do major video driver updates now and again. Like when I get
a new card - which is sitting next to me right now, waiting for a new CPU to
go in at the same time.

- Daniel

 

[premiersupport]

With the record line level set to MAX the recording level is acceptable on
my Audigy 2 & AIW 9700 Pro, but still not as loud as watching live TV. I do
note that the 9700 has a LOWER TV volume level than previous AIW cards,
ignoring the sound card here. However, I do have a couple issues (I'm still
using MMC 8.1 so I don't know if any of these are fixed).

* MMC insists on selecting "What You Hear" rather than "Analog Mix". This
means that all system events, like dings and new mail, are recorded along
with the TV program.

* MMC insists on setting the volume level about 3/4 from max. I know this
can be adjusted in the registry, but it shouldn't be needed. I also know
that it probably does this to prevent overloading while recording, but
that's far from a problem with the low level the card produces. I've also
noted that (at least with MMC 8.1) if I override the record level registry
setting each time I load MMC is lowers the value by one (so eventually it'll
get where it was before).

* A couple times for no apparent reason I've had an INCREDIBLY low record
level. Maybe twice in a few hundred recordings.

When I upgrade to the AIW 9800 I'll be installing the latest versions of MMC
and will see what happens then...

- Daniel

ALL of what you complain about is still happening all the way up to 8.6 with
the newest drivers too.

the volume in the 9700AIWpro is a lot lower than the 8500DV, they say this
new tuner is much better, I DON'T see it! they made one the connections
better, but still kept that dongle thing that adds 3" to the rear of any
machine to clear the wall

and I do mean ALLL


worse yet is the fact that this card ALWAYS returns back to 16k colors and
60HERTZ when you reboot the computer.

I have tries SEVERAL fresh installs of W2K and XPpro followed their
instructions to the LETTER even printed them out, and it always defaults to
60 hertz and 16colors

I have written emails, given feedback and complained in these ATI groups for
6 months and still it has not been fixed

I wish they would take the time to make a STABLE release NO MORE NEW
FEATURES UNTIL YOU GET ONE STABLE for us in the VIDEO crowds and leave the
GAME improvements out.

they seem to be using the least common denominator for all cards..game
players except we spent 400.00 or 4 times what the average game card costs
and all we are asking for is STABILITY

I recoomended this card and the 8500 to many friends, but NO LONGER!

the 8500 had better sound and no problems with staying stable ONCE you set
it up correct

this 9700proAIW has not been right since I bought it, and even those drivers
that came in the cd did not work right



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[premiersupport]

P4B266 c-media never had the problem...although, i was not using the MB drivers from the CD
VIA chippsets without those updates are a PITA

if you have the SAME motherboard and you swap out a 8500dv AIW and put in a
new 9700proAIW and then your sound is 40% lower

what do you blame? the sound card? NO I blame the new video card and it's
driver's, specifically the new tuner.

and if you do a fresh install and it still that much lower you know it's the
video card.

then there's the always resets itself to 60 hertz and 16k colors on reboots!
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[JAD]

are you saying its 9700 related? cause then I say 'no'....because it doesn't happen on everyone's machine. so it would be driver
conflict between the sound card and video possibly, hell 1 guy was yelling for 2 months about volume recording being low.....it
ended up being the volume on the cable box that was too low.........kept saying tuner tuner tuner and it was composite input....

 

[Daniel Tonks]

the volume in the 9700AIWpro is a lot lower than the 8500DV, they say this
new tuner is much better, I DON'T see it! they made one the connections
better, but still kept that dongle thing that adds 3" to the rear of any
machine to clear the wall

I hated the TV tuner on the 8500DV. Horrible quality. The tuner on the AIW
Radeon 32mb was pretty good for volume level. I don't even recall the
problem on the AIW 8500 128mb.

worse yet is the fact that this card ALWAYS returns back to 16k colors and
60HERTZ when you reboot the computer.

Hmm, sounds like something specific to your system. No similar issues here
on the AIW 9700 (although the refresh rate can be a pain to get around, I
have no idea why you're reverting to 16-bit colors).

- Daniel

 

[premiersupport]

I hated the TV tuner on the 8500DV. Horrible quality. The tuner on the AIW
Radeon 32mb was pretty good for volume level. I don't even recall the
problem on the AIW 8500 128mb.



Hmm, sounds like something specific to your system. No similar issues here
on the AIW 9700 (although the refresh rate can be a pain to get around, I
have no idea why you're reverting to 16-bit colors).

- Daniel

of all the weird luck I've had with this card. after ranting on here, I
decided to play around with windows media center (basically xp pro and 3
more cab files)

installed it fresh and used the latest 3-in-1 video driver and so far after
15 reboots it seems to be holding. will post back in a week or 2 and let you
know if it's still holding AFTER i install MMC which I have not had the time
to yet or Direct x 9 for that matter.
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