event id:13552

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Ada Pan [MSFT]

Hello Allen,

Thanks for replying back with the reports. :)

After checking reports, it appears that FRS still can replicate data from
DC1 to DC2; however, the file replication from DC2 to DC1 is failed.

On the DC2, both event 13508 and 13509 were logged. This indicates that the
problem was resolved. Because the FRS service kept being restarted on the
DC1, files on the DC1 could not replicate to DC2 even if the FRS service on
DC2 was working properly.


Let us try the following approach on the DC1:

Step 1: Reset the FRS Jet DB on the DC1.
=================================
1. Stop NetLogon and FRS on the domain controller.

2. Delete the Ntfrs.jdb file in the <Windir>\Ntfrs\Jet folder. HINT: You
may copy the file to a temporary folder on another drive first.

3. Delete the Edb.chk file in the <Windir>\Ntfrs\Jet\Sys folder. HINT: You
may copy the file to a temporary folder on another drive first.

4. Delete the Edb.log file, the Res1.log file, and the Res2.log file in the
<Windir>\Ntfrs\Jet\Log folder. HINT: You may copy the files to a temporary
folder on another drive first.

5. Restart the NetLogon and FRS services on the domain controller.


Step 2: Conduct a D2 on DC1.
=================================
1. On the DC1, click "Start", and then click "Run".

2. In the "Open" box, type "cmd" (without the quotation marks) and then
press ENTER.

3. In the "Command" box, type "net stop ntfrs" (without the quotation
marks).

4. Click "Start", and then click "Run".

5. In the "Open" box, type "regedit" (without the quotation marks) and then
press ENTER.

6. Locate the following subkey in the registry:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\NtFrs\Parameters\Backup
/Restore\Process at Startup

7. In the right pane, double-click "BurFlags".

8. In the "Edit DWORD Value" dialog box, type "D2" (without the quotation
marks) and then click "OK".

9. Quit Registry Editor, and then switch to the "Command" box.

10. In the "Command" box, type "net start ntfrs" (without the quotation
marks).

11. Quit the "Command" box.


Related MS KB Articles:
=======
290762 Using the BurFlags registry key to reinitialize File Replication
Service
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=290762

315457 How to rebuild the SYSVOL tree and its content in a domain
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=315457

292438 Troubleshooting journal_wrap errors on Sysvol and DFS replica sets
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=292438

Hope this helps!

Regards,

Ada Pan

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Guest

Hi Ada,

Thank you for helping me out with this. I am going to take care of this
tonight so I don’t interrupt service. For the files attached that you sent,
they didn’t make it through. My filter took them off. Could you out them in a
Zip file and email them to me again? I will let you know how this all turns
out.

Do you know of any good reading on the Jet Database? I want to learn more
about that so I know how it works.

Best Regards,
Allen
 
V

Vincent Xu [MSFT]

Hi Allen,

Thanks for posting.

This is Vincent who is Ada's backup.

I have no idea Ada sent which files to you so I will ask she send you again
when she is back. Thanks for your understanding.

Regarding your requirment about Jet database article, please see following:

<http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/sql/70/proddocs/msjet/jetintro
.mspx?mfr=true>

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Jet_Database_Engine>

Hope this help. Have a good day!

Best regards,

Vincent Xu
Microsoft Online Partner Support

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A

Ada Pan [MSFT]

Hello Allen,

I didn't send any attachments in my previous reply. So no worry about
missing any information I sent to you.

I am glad to know that you are going to apply the steps I provided. Hope to
hear from you with good news soon.

More information:
=========
For more information regarding the Jet DB used by FRS, you may refer to the
following MS article:

How FRS Works
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windows2000serv/reskit/distrib/
dsdh_frs_bnyr.mspx?mfr=true

HINT: The section "FRS Database Tables" has the detailed explanation for
the Jet DB.


Hope this helps!

Regards,

Ada Pan

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Guest

Hi Ada,

Here is some more details on what the event id's are. They are the only
issues I have right now. I am noticing also that the Profiles are not
replicating to DC2. I am not sure if that is part of the problem or a result.

9/27/06 Event ID 13508 -

The File Replication Service is having trouble enabling replication from DC2
to DC1 for e:\profiles using the DNS name dc2.domainname.com. FRS will keep
retrying.

Following are some of the reasons you would see this warning.



[1] FRS can not correctly resolve the DNS name dc2.domainname.com from this
computer.

[2] FRS is not running on dc2.domainname.com.

[3] The topology information in the Active Directory for this replica has
not yet replicated to all the Domain Controllers.



This event log message will appear once per connection, After the problem
is fixed you will see another event log message indicating that the
connection has been established.


9/27/06 Event ID 13567 -

File Replication Service has detected and suppressed an average of 15 or
more file updates every hour for the last 3 hours because the updates did not
change the contents of the file. The tracking records in FRS debug logs will
have the filename and event time for the suppressed updates. The tracking
records have the date and time followed by :T: as their prefix.



Updates that do not change the content of the file are suppressed to prevent
unnecessary replication traffic. Following are common examples of updates
that do not change the contents of the file.



[1] Overwriting a file with a copy of the same file.

[2] Setting the same ACLs on a file multiple times.

[3] Restoring an identical copy of the file over an existing one.



Suppression of updates can be disabled by running regedit.



Click on Start, Run and type regedit.



Expand HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, SYSTEM, CurrentControlSet, Services, NtFrs,
Parameters, and create or update the value "Suppress Identical Updates To
Files" to 0 (Default is 1) to force identical updates to replicate.



9/25/06 Event ID 13509 -

The File Replication Service has enabled replication from DC2 to DC1 for
e:\sysvol\domain after repeated retries.



9/25/06 Event ID 13509 -

The File Replication Service has enabled replication from DC2 to DC1 for
e:\users\incl after repeated retries.


9/25/06 Event ID 13509 -

The File Replication Service has enabled replication from DC2 to DC1 for
e:\users\logs after repeated retries.
 
A

Ada Pan [MSFT]

Hello Allen,

If you only get "warnings", 13508, 13509, and 13516 on both DCs, it appears
that the replication problem is gone. Let us monitor for several days to
see if everything is working properly. If this problem occurs again, please
let me know.

Hope this helps!

Regards,

Ada Pan

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A

Ada Pan [MSFT]

Hello Allen,

As only the DFS share for profiles did not work, I think that we may
recreate the DFS link for the share to see if the folder can be replicated
successfully? I will be here standing by for your update.

Regards,

Ada Pan

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Guest

Hi Ada,

Well so far none of the profiles have replicated from DC1 to DC2. The
"warnings" I am getting on DC1 are in direct correlation to the profiles
(i.e. 13508). The other warnings on DC1 have stopped. On DC2 however, the
13509's are in relation to replication on the e:\sysvol\domain, e:\user\incl,
and e:\user\logs. I am thinking these are in relation to each other. Would I
be correct by thinking that?

Best Regards,
Allen
 
A

Ada Pan [MSFT]

Hello Allen,

The event 13508 on the DC1 may not be relevant to the event 13509 on the
DC2 in this case. This is the reason that I suggest recreating the DFS link
for the profile folder individually.

Hope this helps!

Regards,

Ada Pan

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Guest

Hi Ada,

Yeah i was going to re-create the DFS link anyways for the Profiles. I just
wasnt sure if that was a seperate issue or the same. So I figured I would
ask. I will let you know how it turns out. I will give you an update Thursday
before I leave for the day.

Best Regards,
Allen
 
A

Ada Pan [MSFT]

Hello Allen,

Because you received an error message when checking status of the DFS Root,
I would like to recommend that we rebuild the DFS root as well as all the
DFS links as follows, if possible.

NOTE: Please backup your DCs first.

HINT: You only need to apply the following steps on one DC.

1. Open ADSIEDIT.MSC

2. Navigate to the following DN:

Domain\DC=YourDomain\OU=Domain Controllers\DC=YourDC (Which you would like
to remove from the DFS Replica Set)\CN=NTFRS Subscriptions.

3. On the right pane, delete the CN=''DFS Volumes'' object. Please perform
this step for each DC you need to remove.

4. Navigate to the following DN:

Domain\DC=YourDomain\CN=System\CN=File Replication Service\CN=DFS
Volumes\CN=<DFS root>OU=Domain Controllers\DC= <Your DFS root>\CN=<Your DFS
root>|DFS

5. Right-click on each object and click Properties. Check the value of
frsComputerReference to identify each DFS replica's name. You will then get
a list of DFS replicas in a set as well as their GUID.

6. Under each CN={GUID} object, remove the replication links you would like
to delete by referring the list you just got.

7. Finally, remove the CN={GUID} object which is the DFS replica you would
like to move.

Once the removal of this information is finished, you will need to force a
replication between your domain controllers and then open DFS snap-in to
recreate all the DFS root and links. Configure Replication for DFS links
between the DCs. Monitor event log to see if no FRS events are logged again.

Hope this helps!

Regards,

Ada Pan

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Guest

Hi Ada,

Ok, I will give that a shot tonight. I found out that apparently they took
some power hits on the 7th. The good thing is for the first time in a long
time DC2 rebuilt itself and has no errors on it now. :) Matter of fact, even
the profiles replicated properly. However, where DC2 was not updating before,
now it is DC1 that isnt updating. So I am thinking we are on the right track.
Something tells me once we rebuild the DFS root and links, we will be good to
go. I will let you know how his pans out. I am confident that it will have
good results.

Best Regards,
Allen
 
A

Ada Pan [MSFT]

Hello Allen,

I am glad to hear that you will apply my suggestion to rebuild the DFS root
and links. Hope to hear from you with good news.

Regards,

Ada Pan

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Guest

Hi Ada,

Great news, I am up 100%. Your a life saver. I found out too while doing the
dfs, that I was missing the directories for incl and logs on DC2. Which I
dont remember seeing for at least the last 10 months. But I made the
directories, followed the rest of the steps from the procedure you gave me
and then we were good to go.

I appreciate your assistance and perseverance with assisting me. I
definitely learned a lot and refreshed a bunch of forgotten knowledge.

Best Regards,
Allen
 
A

Ada Pan [MSFT]

Hello Allen,

I am so glad to hear the suggestion I provided helps. I appreciate your
putting your time and efforts in this troubleshooting process. It's been a
pleasant experience working with you. If you need further assistance on
this issue or encounter any new break/fix issue, please feel free to post
your questions in the newsgroups. I am glad to be of assistance.

Regards,

Ada Pan

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