eSATA drive problem

[philo]

I have an eSATA drive formatted NTFS from my XP installation.

Drive works fine from either XP or Linux (multi-boot machine)

I had previously tried Vista on the machine but it saw the eSATA drive
as unformatted. Gave the message "Do you want to format this drive?"

Very dangerous as an unknowing person may have actually formatted the
drive and lost all their data.

Interestingly enough, any time I've tried to access the drive,
Vista ran a chkdsk on it at the next boot up.

CHKDSK from Vista saw it fine and reported no errors

but could not read the drive once booted to the desktop.


I eventually gave up on Vista and just did a Win7 install yesterday.

Problem was identical!

 

[Mark Adams]

I have an eSATA drive formatted NTFS from my XP installation.

Drive works fine from either XP or Linux (multi-boot machine)

I had previously tried Vista on the machine but it saw the eSATA drive
as unformatted. Gave the message "Do you want to format this drive?"

Did you try formatting the drive with Vista?

Very dangerous as an unknowing person may have actually formatted the
drive and lost all their data.

You haven't said whom the drive belongs to or if any data is on it. Did you
try formatting the drive with Vista?

Interestingly enough, any time I've tried to access the drive,
Vista ran a chkdsk on it at the next boot up.

CHKDSK from Vista saw it fine and reported no errors

but could not read the drive once booted to the desktop.


I eventually gave up on Vista and just did a Win7 install yesterday.

Problem was identical!

Did you try formatting the drive with Windows 7?

 

[philo]

Did you try formatting the drive with Vista?


You haven't said whom the drive belongs to or if any data is on it. Did you
try formatting the drive with Vista?


Did you try formatting the drive with Windows 7?

No

I am *not* going to format a drive with data on it...

(sheesh)

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

I am *not* going to format a drive with data on it...

(sheesh)

I have read that Vista and 7 have available a slightly modified NTFS
that XP or older can't read, but I would expect - and have experienced
- no problems the other way.

Mostly, though, I've only connected my external drives via USB. Maybe
you should try that. Which also makes me wonder - do you have reason to
think that the eSATA port is healthy?

Once I used eSATA without a problem, but I don't remember which OS that
particular HD was formatted on.

 

[philo]

I have read that Vista and 7 have available a slightly modified NTFS
that XP or older can't read, but I would expect - and have experienced -
no problems the other way.

Mostly, though, I've only connected my external drives via USB. Maybe
you should try that. Which also makes me wonder - do you have reason to
think that the eSATA port is healthy?

Once I used eSATA without a problem, but I don't remember which OS that
particular HD was formatted on.

The eSATA port is healthy as I experience no problems with XP or Linux.

I know that NTFS has been modified slightly but my Vista installation is
an XP upgrade, so the drive that Vista is on has not been re-formated
with the "new" NTFS

The weirdest part is that Vista and Win7 can run CHKDSK on the eSATA
drive and no problems are found

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

The eSATA port is healthy as I experience no problems with XP or Linux.

I know that NTFS has been modified slightly but my Vista installation is an
XP upgrade, so the drive that Vista is on has not been re-formated with the
"new" NTFS

The weirdest part is that Vista and Win7 can run CHKDSK on the eSATA drive
and no problems are found

Sorry I couldn't help...

Although - how about the partition status on the external drive? If
it's set up as a boot drive, Vista and 7 might be skittish about it.

That's the only remaining straw I can grasp at

 

[philo]

Sorry I couldn't help...

Although - how about the partition status on the external drive? If it's
set up as a boot drive, Vista and 7 might be skittish about it.

That's the only remaining straw I can grasp at

thanks for the reply

the drive is not a boot drive..data only

I'd say that if Vista and Win7 cannot read a drive formatted from XP...
there's a problem!

 

[Mark Adams]

No

I am *not* going to format a drive with data on it...

(sheesh)

Sorry about that, you didn't actually say that there was data on the disk.
You simply said it was a drive formatted NTFS from your XP installation. I
assumed you formatted it with XP and moved it to a Vista machine. What would
happen if you copied the data off, reformatted the disk with the Vista or Win
7 machine then copied the data back?

Gene said that NTFS from Vista and Win 7 is slightly different than from XP;
I have heard this too from these newsgroups (don't remember from whom). Could
the upgrade from XP to Vista also have included the file system?

 

[Mark Adams]

thanks for the reply

the drive is not a boot drive..data only

I'd say that if Vista and Win7 cannot read a drive formatted from XP...
there's a problem!

Sorry, again. Scratch that last post- I'm a little slow. I get it. It's an
eSATA data drive that you want to move from machine to machine and read the
data on all of them. Got it!

Will the XP machine read the drive if it is formatted with the Win 7 machine?

 

[philo]

Sorry, again. Scratch that last post- I'm a little slow. I get it. It's an
eSATA data drive that you want to move from machine to machine and read the
data on all of them. Got it!

Will the XP machine read the drive if it is formatted with the Win 7 machine?

I'll have to experiment with other drives I guess

 

[philo]

Sorry about that, you didn't actually say that there was data on the disk.
You simply said it was a drive formatted NTFS from your XP installation. I
assumed you formatted it with XP and moved it to a Vista machine. What would
happen if you copied the data off, reformatted the disk with the Vista or Win
7 machine then copied the data back?

Gene said that NTFS from Vista and Win 7 is slightly different than from XP;
I have heard this too from these newsgroups (don't remember from whom). Could
the upgrade from XP to Vista also have included the file system?

The drive was not re-formatted when I upgraded XP to Vista...

that's all I can tell you

 

[Vista Succubus Hunter]

The eSATA port is healthy as I experience no problems with XP or Linux.

I know that NTFS has been modified slightly but my Vista installation is
an XP upgrade, so the drive that Vista is on has not been re-formated
with the "new" NTFS

The weirdest part is that Vista and Win7 can run CHKDSK on the eSATA
drive and no problems are found

Your problem is that the HDD was formatted by XP prior to SP2. Partition
Tables on the drive are Not Vista Compatible, because of the new
security protocols used by Vista.

Your solution is to copy the data if you choose to a XP machine, format
the HDD using Vista or Win 7 and copy the data over to the HDD from XP
machine.

That solution was given to you over there in COLA. And I do like they
way you talked about Vista and Win 7 like a dog over there in COLA.

If you can't drive, then don't get behind the wheel.

 

[philo]

Your problem is that the HDD was formatted by XP prior to SP2. Partition
Tables on the drive are Not Vista Compatible, because of the new
security protocols used by Vista.

Your solution is to copy the data if you choose to a XP machine, format
the HDD using Vista or Win 7 and copy the data over to the HDD from XP
machine.

That solution was given to you over there in COLA. And I do like they
way you talked about Vista and Win 7 like a dog over there in COLA.

If you can't drive, then don't get behind the wheel.

WRONG!

XP machine has SP3 and did at the time the drive was formatted

(sheesh)

 

[Vista Succubus Hunter]

WRONG!

XP machine has SP3 and did at the time the drive was formatted

(sheesh)

Sheesh, I don't believe you. And you can't drive. You can harp on it all
you want, but if you want Vista or Win 7 to use that drive then format
it. It's plain and simple.

 

[philo]

Sheesh, I don't believe you. And you can't drive. You can harp on it all
you want, but if you want Vista or Win 7 to use that drive then format
it. It's plain and simple.

**PLONK**

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

thanks for the reply

the drive is not a boot drive..data only

I'd say that if Vista and Win7 cannot read a drive formatted from XP...
there's a problem!

Yes, but I read drives formatted in XP on my Vista machine, so I think
the problem is likely to be with your drive or your Vista (or your
hardware or drivers), not all XP Drives with all Vistas.

I mentioned one possible kind of partition setup, but there are other
parameters: primary, secondary, extended, logical, and so forth, which
could be a problem. I don't know enough about all this to offer
suggestions.

There's also encryption.

And I think I already asked: did you try using the drive with a USB
enclosure or adapter instead of eSATA?

And I forgot (it's not in your OP) - have you read other XP NTFS drives
in that eSATA port on Vista or 7?

The thing is, when I don't know what the problem is, I do a lot of
experimentation...

 

[Vista Succubus Hunter]

And I think I already asked: did you try using the drive with a USB
enclosure or adapter instead of eSATA?

And I forgot (it's not in your OP) - have you read other XP NTFS drives
in that eSATA port on Vista or 7?

http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-7343-0.html?forumID=102&threadID=262566

 

[Gene E. Bloch]

http://techrepublic.com.com/5208-7343-0.html?forumID=102&threadID=262566

Scary. I hope the OP investigates this solution before trying it...

I say scary because I have no idea where the program refered to on the
forum came from, and it seems to write to the drive in question. So I'm
glad that I don't have the OP's problem for the moment...

But if it ends up working, then thanks, Mr. Hunter...may I call you Mr.
Hunter?

 

[Vista Succubus Hunter]

Scary. I hope the OP investigates this solution before trying it...

I say scary because I have no idea where the program refered to on the
forum came from, and it seems to write to the drive in question. So I'm
glad that I don't have the OP's problem for the moment...

But if it ends up working, then thanks, Mr. Hunter...may I call you Mr.
Hunter?

I have been called a lot of things over the years.

Anyway, the site seems reputable, and I view it to be no more dangerous
than the Ultimate Boot site, if one happens to be in a pinch.

However, the OP while over there in COLA was dogging Vista and Win 7 out
saying he was never going to use either one of the O/S(s) anyway with
his LOL remarks.

Therefore, it's moot point with him. I am only making the posts for
others that may face the issue, needing a way out.

 

[Paul Montgomery]

I have been called a lot of things over the years.

And you've called yourself a lot more (I haven't kept track for
several months):

Anti on Chicken Little(s)
Anti on Linux Sinister Chicken Littles
Brown Nosing Linonut
Chicken Little Albright
Chris Ahlstrom (spoof of real poster)
chrisv1
COLA Fish and Game
COLA Gone Wild
COLA People Controller
COLA Sucks
COLO Loons
Confused Donkey
Dan S-illy aka Barney Phife
Doctor Bee
General Paul Montgomery
General Paul Montgomery1
General Paul Montgomery2
General Paul Montgomery3
General Paul Montgomery4
General Paul Montgomery5
General Paul Montgomery6
General Paul Montgomery7
Hunting for JackA$$
Identity
Jack the Ripper
Junk Yard Dog
Kotex Queen Clear Windows
Linonut (spoof of real poster)
Linux Pimps
Linux Sucks
Little Mad Dog
Mick Murphy (spoof of real poster)
Montgumdrop
MontGumDropped1 Paul
Mr. Arnold
Paragon Falcon (he can't spell "peregrine")
Paul MontDenturesDropped
Paul Montgomery (spoof of real poster)
Paul Montgomery 9000
Paul Montgumdrop
Pauly
Ringmonster
Roy S. Schestowitz (spoof of real poster)
Savwafare with Flare
Sorry Linux Pimps
Sudden Impact
Tall Tales Albright
Terry Porter (spoof of real poster)
Terry's Web Server
The Bee
The Big Ticket
The Hornet
The Lone Ranger
The Lone Ranger1
The Lone Ranger2
Triple X Killer
Van Helsing the Albright Hunter