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TJ
Arthur said:
Best tomatoes on the planet? I dunno, Art. My upstate central NY
tomatoes taste darn good, if you ask me (and my customers)!
TJ
Best tomatoes on the planet? I dunno, Art. My upstate central NY
tomatoes taste darn good, if you ask me (and my customers)!
TJ
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Lou
TJ said:
Probably use seeds from NJ <bg>
Lou
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Arthur Entlich
If we are speaking of the consumer models, that use cartridges above the
heads, you need to make (using virgin cartridges) or purchase, cleaning
cartridges, which contain a ink solvent, and then running either head
cleanings or pages of printed material until the heads only deliver
solvent which isn't tainted with and ink. You may then wish to consider
some type of glycol mixture to fill the heads, (Epson uses some special
mix) or leave them empty.
Art
heads, you need to make (using virgin cartridges) or purchase, cleaning
cartridges, which contain a ink solvent, and then running either head
cleanings or pages of printed material until the heads only deliver
solvent which isn't tainted with and ink. You may then wish to consider
some type of glycol mixture to fill the heads, (Epson uses some special
mix) or leave them empty.
Art
A
Arthur Entlich
OK, I lived in upstate NY as well, but the summer wasn't as long or
often not as hot as N.J., although it too could have some unbearably
humid days, depending on where in upstate you speak of. Tomatoes are
tropicals and require nights that don't cool down greatly to grow and
ripen the fruit properly. Since I haven't been that way in over 10
years, it is certainly possible that with global climate change, upstate
NY may now be much warmer with longer summers than when I lived there.
I can tell you that the tomatoes we get on Vancouver Island BC are
pretty bland. We just don't get a long enough summer or consistently
warm enough evenings.
The real question is, can you use the tomatoes to make edible red ink
for an inkjet printer? ;-)
Art
often not as hot as N.J., although it too could have some unbearably
humid days, depending on where in upstate you speak of. Tomatoes are
tropicals and require nights that don't cool down greatly to grow and
ripen the fruit properly. Since I haven't been that way in over 10
years, it is certainly possible that with global climate change, upstate
NY may now be much warmer with longer summers than when I lived there.
I can tell you that the tomatoes we get on Vancouver Island BC are
pretty bland. We just don't get a long enough summer or consistently
warm enough evenings.
The real question is, can you use the tomatoes to make edible red ink
for an inkjet printer? ;-)
Art
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Lou
Arthur said:
No need to - use red peppers
)Lou
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TJ
Arthur said:
I've often thought that beet juice would make a fair magenta.
It is true that the growing season in my area is a little longer than it
used to be. The date of the first frost has moved about 10 days later
than it was 25-30 years ago, but the date of the last Spring frost is
about the same. (I have records.) But as far as taste goes, soil type
and variety selection have as much influence these days as temperature,
year in and year out. Today's early varieties far outperform those of 20
years ago in that regard, heirloom hype notwithstanding.
Art, you might be interested in this article that appeared in the latest
Farm Journal magazine:
http://www.agweb.com/get_article.asp?src=&pageid=130359
It addresses the cyclical nature of growing conditions, using tree rings
as an indicator for years before human records were kept. Global warming
and cooling is nothing new.
TJ
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Arthur Entlich
Global warming
But global climate chaos is for recent times. Recent research has shown
that the increase in CO2 levels which has occurred in the last 100 years
or so is the most rapid in recorded weather history.
May make for better tasting tomatoes (or not) but sure is also making
for disastrous weather conditions in many locales. Also has triggered
massive outpourings of additional CO2 from both melting glacial ice and
the ocean itself. We basically have the beginnings of a run away
feedback loop.
Art
But global climate chaos is for recent times. Recent research has shown
that the increase in CO2 levels which has occurred in the last 100 years
or so is the most rapid in recorded weather history.
May make for better tasting tomatoes (or not) but sure is also making
for disastrous weather conditions in many locales. Also has triggered
massive outpourings of additional CO2 from both melting glacial ice and
the ocean itself. We basically have the beginnings of a run away
feedback loop.
Art
L
Lou
Arthur said:
Recent story points out that warming is causing a big increase in
methane release, a very bad greenhouse gas.
Lou
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TJ
Lou said:
But is the warming the cause of the release, or is the release the cause
of the warming? And while you're working on that one, find a definitive
answer to the chicken/egg question, too.
I don't doubt global warming. What I do question is the extent of Man's
influence over it. I believe Man has SOME influence on the rate of the
warming, but I believe it is smaller than many others think it is. And
please don't cite computer models to me. They're only as good as the
modeler and are just a guess at this point. When someone comes up with a
computer model that is right when predicting the weather 5 days ahead at
least 90% of the time, I'll be more likely to believe in a global
warming model.
TJ
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measekite
TJ said:
One of the problems with global warming is that generic ink will be
warmer and more quickly clog the printheads.
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Arthur Entlich
This is a feedback loop, but it isn't chicken and egg at all.
Man's influence has caused CO2 increase in the atmosphere, which has
then caused increased release from melting ice, and oceans, plus extras
methane release, which again lead to more ice melting and more increase
of CO2 from the oceans, etc.
A new study has shown ice mass loss in the Arctic regions was 14%
between 2004-05. We have surpassed the tipping point, and there is no
point in arguing about this anymore.
If you have any doubts about the process, read here:
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NasaNews/2006/2006091323081.html
Art
Man's influence has caused CO2 increase in the atmosphere, which has
then caused increased release from melting ice, and oceans, plus extras
methane release, which again lead to more ice melting and more increase
of CO2 from the oceans, etc.
A new study has shown ice mass loss in the Arctic regions was 14%
between 2004-05. We have surpassed the tipping point, and there is no
point in arguing about this anymore.
If you have any doubts about the process, read here:
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NasaNews/2006/2006091323081.html
Art