Epson 740 damaged by Epson Premium Luster paper

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Mason C

I ran one sheet of Epson's Professional Media Premium Luster Photo Paper.

On the final 1/4 inch of the photo the Cyan plugged.

After that it would not print correctly on "regular" paper.

It took about 15 nozzle clearings ( ! ) and a replacement of the black
cartridge (not signalled empty) before it would again print correctly.

I confess I was using non-Epson cartridges from Caboodle,
who have a local store. Is that significant?

I sure won't use that gummy Premium Luster paper again. It warns
"for Epson printers only". Not for MY EPSON 740 ( a good printer).

Mason C anyone wanna buy 49 sheets cheap?
 
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Tesco News

Mason C said:
I ran one sheet of Epson's Professional Media Premium Luster Photo Paper.

On the final 1/4 inch of the photo the Cyan plugged.

After that it would not print correctly on "regular" paper.

It took about 15 nozzle clearings ( ! ) and a replacement of the black
cartridge (not signalled empty) before it would again print correctly.

I confess I was using non-Epson cartridges from Caboodle,
who have a local store. Is that significant?

I sure won't use that gummy Premium Luster paper again. It warns
"for Epson printers only". Not for MY EPSON 740 ( a good printer).

Mason C anyone wanna buy 49 sheets cheap?

I read your post with a certain amount of amusement. Not that I thought
your predicament was funny, it was your logic.

You are using Epson Paper in an Epson Printer, and get a serious nozzle
clog. You immediately assume that it was the paper, and completely
exonerate the Third Party Ink you are using.

That Ink should have been your number one suspect. It has just a little
more contact with the nozzles than the paper.

Roy G
 
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Davy

Tesco Newswrote
quote="Tesco News"] You immediately assume that it was the paper
and completely
exonerate the Third Party Ink you are using

That Ink should have been your number one suspect. It has just little
more contact with the nozzles than the paper

Roy

A valid point Roy, but coincidences do happen

My Epsons clogged on the 2nd day and the replacement clogged on th
4th day with Epson ink

Trouble is more ink goes down the drain than on paper and their OE
tanks aren't exactly cheap and look at the amount that's left i
when the 'red light' comes on just to prevent air locks

Dav
 
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Arthur Entlich

I would be rather surprised if the paper was responsible for this clog
you speak of. The paper doesn't actually come in contact with the head.
Droplets of ink are sprayed onto the paper. It would take some very
special chemical reaction between the paper and the ink to cause the
head nozzles to clog. I won't rule it out, but I would look for other
more likely causes. Perhaps you hit a large ink clot from the cartridge
which got stuck in the head, or perhaps there just was a great deal of
underhead dried ink.

Art
 
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measekite

Arthur said:
I would be rather surprised if the paper was responsible for this clog
you speak of. The paper doesn't actually come in contact with the
head. Droplets of ink are sprayed onto the paper. It would take some
very special chemical reaction between the paper and the ink to cause
the head nozzles to clog. I won't rule it out, but I would look for
other more likely causes. Perhaps you hit a large ink clot from the
cartridge which got stuck in the head, or perhaps there just was a
great deal of underhead dried ink.

MOST LIKELY IT IS THE INK
 
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measekite

Tesco said:
I read your post with a certain amount of amusement. Not that I thought
your predicament was funny, it was your logic.

You are using Epson Paper in an Epson Printer, and get a serious nozzle
clog. You immediately assume that it was the paper, and completely
exonerate the Third Party Ink you are using.
HAVE YOU EVER SPOKE WITH A DEVOUT CHURCHIE. THEY WORSHIP AFTERMARKET
INKIE STINKIES
That Ink should have been your number one suspect.
THERE IS NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
 
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measekite

Mason said:
I ran one sheet of Epson's Professional Media Premium Luster Photo Paper.

On the final 1/4 inch of the photo the Cyan plugged.

After that it would not print correctly on "regular" paper.

It took about 15 nozzle clearings ( ! ) and a replacement of the black
cartridge (not signalled empty) before it would again print correctly.

I confess I was using non-Epson cartridges from Caboodle,
who have a local store. Is that significant?
YANKEE CABODDLE WENT TO TOWN A RIDING ON A PONY
HE USE AFTERMARKET INK AND YELLED OUT MACARONI
I GOT ME A CLOG
I sure won't use that gummy Premium Luster paper again.
IF BRAINS WERE DYNAMITE YOU WOULD NOT HAVE ENOUGH TO BLOW YOUR NOSE
 
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Martin

Davy said:
My Epsons clogged on the 2nd day and the replacement clogged on the
4th day with Epson ink.

Just a thought here but having read and absorbed Arts cleaning manual
and various tips... The problem can actually be exacerbated by jumping
from one type of cart ink to a different one, even if the latter is
Epson OEM.

If the resources are available I've come to the impression it's often
better to insert a cleaning cart to purge the remaining ink from the
first cart set before inserting the new Epson or other set. This avoids
any reactions between the first and second inks that result in even
greater clogging.
 
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Prime

YANKEE CABODDLE WENT TO TOWN A RIDING ON A PONY
HE USE AFTERMARKET INK AND YELLED OUT MACARONI
I GOT ME A CLOG
Trolling Measkite went to town
Printing on 3rd party inky
Got a clog up his butt and soon was very stinky
IF BRAINS WERE DYNAMITE YOU WOULD NOT HAVE ENOUGH TO BLOW YOUR NOSE

If you could blow out your ass you might be able to type in lower case some
day.
 
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Mason C

I greatly appreciate the responses to my post. So much so that
I'm posting on top.

Now that my holiday cards are printed, on the next quiet day I will
try that paper again. In the meantime my Caboodle cartridges
printed lots of photos with no problem.

I'll sure let you-all know if it happens again. Boy, will I let
you KNOW. HA !

Thanks again. Bye. Mason C
 
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Mason C

Acting on expert advise, I tried another sheet with a very heavily
colored 8 x 10 photo. Looks great ! Caboodle and all.

I'll ask another question on a separate thread.

Mason C
 
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Arthur Entlich

However, there is still a potential issue. The cleaning cartridges
usually contain a number of solvents, including alcohol, glycol, water,
and some type of pH adjuster. For OEM and most (although not all) dye
inks, they use a alkaline pH, so something like ammonia works well.
However, some dye inks use an acid pH to "set" the dyes for permanence.

Those inks can interact and clot with the others. Certain Lyson dye
inks, for instance, use an acid pH, and as a result require their
cleaning cartridges between Epson and their inks. I assume the cleaning
cartridges they use are pH neutral, to bridge between the alkaline and
acid environments, but not all are.

Art
 
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Martin

Arthur said:
However, there is still a potential issue. The cleaning cartridges
usually contain a number of solvents, including alcohol, glycol, water,
and some type of pH adjuster. For OEM and most (although not all) dye
inks, they use a alkaline pH, so something like ammonia works well.
However, some dye inks use an acid pH to "set" the dyes for permanence.

Those inks can interact and clot with the others. Certain Lyson dye
inks, for instance, use an acid pH, and as a result require their
cleaning cartridges between Epson and their inks. I assume the cleaning
cartridges they use are pH neutral, to bridge between the alkaline and
acid environments, but not all are.

Art


Good point Art... I was being a bit broad in my "cleaning cart" term
usage...
 
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Marky

Davy said:
Tesco Newswrote:
quote="Tesco News"] You immediately assume that it was the paper,
and completely
exonerate the Third Party Ink you are using.

That Ink should have been your number one suspect. It has just a little
more contact with the nozzles than the paper.

Roy G

A valid point Roy, but coincidences do happen.

My Epsons clogged on the 2nd day and the replacement clogged on the
4th day with Epson ink.

Trouble is more ink goes down the drain than on paper and their OEM
tanks aren't exactly cheap and look at the amount that's left in
when the 'red light' comes on just to prevent air locks.

Davy

Sorry, but I thought you corrected that statement and said it was closer to
six months or near a year after you bought the C62...that's why they said
your warranty was expired...

Are you now saying that the printer clogged two days after you bought it?
 
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Davy

Markywrote
[quote:43d6c8f21c="Marky said:
"Davy"]
Tesco Newswrote
quote="Tesco News"] You immediately assume that it was the paper
and completel
exonerate the Third Party Ink you are using

That Ink should have been your number one suspect. It has just
littl
more contact with the nozzles than the paper

Roy

A valid point Roy, but coincidences do happen

My Epsons clogged on the 2nd day and the replacement clogged on th
4th day with Epson ink

Trouble is more ink goes down the drain than on paper and their OE
tanks aren't exactly cheap and look at the amount that's left i
when the 'red light' comes on just to prevent air locks

Dav
Sorry, but I thought you corrected that statement and said it wa
closer t
six months or near a year after you bought the C62...that's why the
sai
your warranty was expired..

Are you now saying that the printer clogged two days after you bough
it?[/quote:43d6c8f21c][/quote:43d6c8f21c

Confusing here...
Davy said 'my' printer a C62 clogged on the 2nd day and wante
replacing after just 6 months because the print head had failed, th
replacement clogged on the 4th day using Epson genuine ink

The only time 3rd party ink was used was when the replacement starte
to require more and more nozzle cleans and was not gonna waste Epso
ink.

There is just no reason for a new printer to clog on the 2nd day, th
replacement to clog on the 4th day of ownership, certainly not wit
OEM ink


Dav
 

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